November 2009 - ncc-services-wg

New RIPE NCC Procedural Document Available
by Andrea Cima 28 Feb '11

28 Feb '11

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 [Apologies for duplicate emails] Dear Colleagues, The RIPE NCC has published a new RIPE NCC procedural document: ripe-475, "Independent Internet Number Resources – Contractual Relationship Changes between sponsoring LIR and End User" This document describes the steps to be taken when there are changes in the contractual relationship between the End User of independent Internet number resources and the sponsoring Local Internet Registry (LIR). It also describes the scenarios in which the RIPE NCC may de-register independent Internet number resources and what happens to those resources once they are de-registered. The new document is available at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-475.html Kind regards, Andrea Cima RIPE NCC -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.11 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkpfPukACgkQXOgsmPkFrjNlEwCcDtE364DhQCU0USBoK3kJhord yBgAoMbRsLFCStkXfvEaV6Mtm5b2sfxW =fKC3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Independent Resource procedure and implementation
by Daniel Suchy 28 Oct '10

28 Oct '10

Hello, I would like to open discussion related to "Action Required: Contractual Relationship for Independent Resource Assignments" emails, that almost all LIRs received from RIPE NCC in the past. I have some notes from perspective of small LIR (or from perspective of person helping running multiple small LIRs). My first note points to system in general. Although RIPE NCC has many required informations in own existing databases already, it requires additional action from LIR in general. Typical small LIR has one or more PA allocations and exactly _one_ autonomous system registered. In RIPE database, there are records matching allocated PA prefix and ASN (route objects with proper origin AS and related inetnum objects, many ASNs has paired LIRs org: in aut-num object). In addition, RIS service (with history!) can be used for verification of these informations obtained automatically from database. For incomprehensible reason, RIPE NCC doesn't use these informations at all and instead of this abuses ALL LIRs with submiting simple form with exactly one record within it. I thing RIPE RCC has enough resources (financial and human) to do that automatically. My second note points to implementation of this new tool. I discovered, that I'm not able to "new" tool used for confirmation. I'm using PKI login feature and I have one identity paired with more LIRs. Although I'm able login to the LIR portal and modify everything I need with my certificate, I'm _NOT_ able to update informations on "Independent Resources" page. The main reason is, that RIPE NCC created new and separated (!) tool instead of simple integration of new feature/functionality to existing LIR portal. So, instead of reusing existing code used for LIR portal authentication, new outside code was developed for this new tool. And this new code doesn't implement all authentication features from LIR portal. In my point of view, this is quite unprofessional approach of modern application development. Aplications should be multi-layer, allowing easy new feature implementation. I reported this issue to RIPE NCC on friday last week, but first "answer" I received yesterday from RIPE NCC was initiation of audit in one LIR. Just fortuitous event? I don't believe. I have no problems with audit itself, I have all records, but this takes some additional time (and of course, money). Just because I claimed some problems to RIPE NCC staff due to problematic internal _implementation_ of new policy. Ok, I would like to open public discussions about this problem. There are some questions to answer and discuss: * why RIPE NCC just doesn't use informations from RIPE database in case of their availability and verifiability, why abuses small LIRs instead * why aren't RIS data used for automatic obtaining of requested informations, where this can be applicable * why RIPE NCC didn't integrate "confirmation" tool to existing LIR portal and why new outside application with _limited_ functionality was developed instead of reusing of existing code and functionality * what architecture is used for LIR portal in general, can be there easily implemented new features Of course, I understand, that there are large LIRs and some historic mess, where this action may be required due to lack of records in existing databases. But, I think this is NOT a case of LIRs started in past couple of years, where all required data should be available. With regards, Daniel

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DOMAIN object proposals
by Denis Walker 14 Dec '09

14 Dec '09

Dear Colleagues, The RIPE NCC made two proposals recently concerning DOMAIN objects: 22 October New rules for reverse domain object creation in the RIPE Database http://www.ripe.net/ripe/maillists/archives/dns-wg/2009/msg00104.html 23 November Removal of Forward DOMAIN data from the RIPE Database http://www.ripe.net/ripe/maillists/archives/dns-wg/2009/msg00119.html There have been no comments for or against either of these proposals on the mailing lists. They were both discussed at RIPE Meetings, without any negative comments. We would like to ask for any final comments by this Friday, 4 December 2009, so the working group chairs can then draw a consensus. Regards, Denis Walker Business Analyst, Database Group RIPE NCC

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Removal of Forward DOMAIN data from the RIPE Database
by Denis Walker 23 Nov '09

23 Nov '09

[Apologies for duplicates] Dear Colleagues, The RIPE NCC has published an implementation plan for the removal of forward DOMAIN objects from the RIPE Database. It can be found at: http://www.ripe.net/db/support/forward-domain-objects-removal.html Please focus the discussion, if possible, on one working group mailing list. Because it is a data clean-up process, we suggest the Database Working Group. Regards Denis Walker Business Analyst Database Group RIPE NCC

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NCC Services WG Minutes - RIPE 59
by Sanghani, Bijal 18 Nov '09

18 Nov '09

The minutes for the NCC Services WG are published and available at - http://www.ripe.net/ripe/wg/ncc-services/r59-minutes.html Please let us know if you have any questions or comments. Kind Regards, Bijal Sanghani The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you should return it to the sender immediately. Please note that while we scan all e-mails for viruses we cannot guarantee that any e-mail is virus-free and accept no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.

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Announcement: RIPE NCC Training Courses
by Training Mailbox 10 Nov '09

10 Nov '09

[Apologies for duplicate e-mails] Dear Colleagues, The RIPE NCC invites you to register for one of our upcoming training courses: - The LIR Training Course This course teaches LIRs how to request Internet number resources and interact with the RIPE NCC. A course outline is available at: http://www.ripe.net/training/lir/outline.html - The Routing Registry Training Course This course teaches LIRs how to use the RIPE Database for routing. A course outline is available at: http://www.ripe.net/training/rr/outline.html - The IPv6 Training Course This course teaches LIRs about the need for IPv6 and includes basic information on how to plan your deployment. A course outline is available at: http://www.ripe.net/training/ipv6/outline.html To see the location of upcoming courses and to register, please use the LIR Portal or complete the registration form on our website at: RIPE NCC Upcoming Courses List & Registration https://lirportal.ripe.net/lirportal/training/course-list.html If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us at <training(a)ripe.net>. Kind regards, Rumy Kanis Training Services Manager RIPE NCC

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IP geolocation services
by Vegard Svanberg 03 Nov '09

03 Nov '09

We've recently experienced a storm of customer complaints after starting to use IP addresses from a new allocation/assignment. The IP block was earlier in use by a German company. The result is that services like Google and Yahoo assume users are from Germany and presents content accordingly. Some users have also reported that they are excluded from certain services. A quick web search reveals that this is a pretty common problem. While not blaming RIPE or the other RIRs, we believe this problem should be addressed, and that the initiative has to come from the RIRs. I would like to propose that RIPE NCC works together with other RIRs to see if it's possible to implement procedures/routines to notify providers and users of IP geolocation services of new, relocated and deleted allocations. Also, one should probably consider if it's a need for a (distributed?) database with more fine-grained location data than the whois database currently provides (also, I've been told that licensing issues prohibits geolocation providers from using the RIR DBs directly, but I've not been able to verify this). Apologies in advance if this has been discussed before -- I searched the archive, but got no hits. -- -o) Vegard Svanberg, CTO - Monsternett (www.monsternett.no) /\\ Violgata 3A, N-1776 HALDEN, NORWAY _\_v Phone: (+47) 69701802 | Fax: (+47) 69701801

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