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Charging scheme discussions
by Rob Evans 11 Mar '26

11 Mar '26

Hi all, Whilst it is good to see discussion happening on the working group list, this is just a gentle reminder that this working group is for discussion on the services offered by the RIPE NCC. Comments about the proposed aspects of a future charging scheme should take place on <members-discuss(a)ripe.net>. Thanks! Rob (On behalf of the NCC Services WG co-chairs.)

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Concerns Regarding Proposed Increased Fees for PI Resources
by Viktoriia Opanasiuk 10 Mar '26

10 Mar '26

Dear Members of the Working group, I am writing to express my concern regarding the proposals under consideration for the future RIPE NCC charging scheme, specifically the potential increase in fees for PI Assignment. Any changes to the charging scheme should take regional characteristics into account. Different countries within the RIPE service region have diverse network structures, operator sizes, and resource usage patterns. In Ukraine, PI resources are widely used to ensure network resilience and independence, and the number of organizations using PI blocks significantly exceeds the number of LIRs. This widespread use of PI addressing contributes to a decentralized, robust, and distributed Internet infrastructure. A disproportionate increase in fees for PI blocks, as currently proposed in the consultations, would place a significant financial burden on small ISPs, regional networks, and other infrastructure organizations, many of which are already operating under serious economic pressure during long-term war. This could have several unintended consequences: - Higher fees may discourage the use of PI addressing for multihoming, potentially affecting network resilience and independence. - Additional costs may strain budgets, limiting the ability to maintain robust network architectures. - PI resources are essential for redundancy and rapid traffic rerouting in the event of failures; increasing their cost could unintentionally reduce the adoption of these practices. I therefore urge the Task Force to maintain annual fees for PI resources at the current level, avoiding disproportionate financial burden on operators that rely on these resources for critical connectivity. I appreciate the efforts of the Task Force and the transparency of the ongoing consultation process, and hope that the regional specifics of Ukraine will be duly considered. -- Kind regards, Regional Director Viner Telecom ISP

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ENUM (e164.arpa): background, scope, and coordination steps
by Hisham Ibrahim 17 Feb '26

17 Feb '26

Dear colleagues, This message summarises recent discussion regarding ENUM (e164.arpa) and clarifies the scope and next steps. The RIPE NCC has operated the e164.arpa registry for many years under instructions and coordination arrangements established with the ITU-T and IAB. These arrangements, and the operational context for how the registry is run, are described here: https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/dns/enum/iab-instructions/ Recently, a request was raised in the RIPE Database Working Group to support ENUM (e164.arpa) in RDAP for querying the RIPE Database. We noted that RDAP support for ENUM is not currently implemented, but could be added if there is clear interest. We also checked current query patterns and found a few hundred ENUM-related queries per day in DNS and in Database; so low usage, but not zero. Following discussion on the Database WG mailing list, including replies in support, we proposed implementing RDAP support for ENUM. While this is a limited operational change, it was recognised that anything touching E.164 and e164.arpa can raise political questions that go beyond the purely technical. As e164.arpa is directly linked to the ITU E.164 numbering system, the relevant points of contact are typically national administrations and the entities they designate. This led us to consult ITU-T Study Group 2 to clarify the status of ENUM and its usage and needs for ongoing support. ITU-T will ask member states for their feedback and share this with us. ITU-T provides an established and coordinated channel to reach those administrations, and importantly confirm whether any delegating authorities still rely on the service, so our technical decisions are informed by real-world use and help us avoid unnecessary operational risk, confusion, or compliance headaches (including in the context of regulatory frameworks such as NIS2). We are also reaching out to the IAB regarding these operations, which the RIPE NCC performs under its instruction on behalf of the global DNS and Internet community. I am sharing this message with the DNS, Database, Cooperation and RIPE NCC Services Working Group mailing lists to ensure all relevant working groups are informed. If you wish to share thoughts in response, please reply to the thread on the RIPE NCC Services WG mailing list. Best regards, Hisham Ibrahim Chief Community Officer, RIPE NCC

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Two-Factor Authentication for RIPE NCC Access Using Passkeys
by Felipe Silveira 06 Nov '25

06 Nov '25

Dear colleagues, Two-factor authentication (2FA) was made mandatory for all RIPE NCC Access accounts in March earlier this year, and we received many requests to use security keys as an authentication method. You can now use passkeys as a two-factor authentication method for RIPE NCC Access accounts, in addition to authenticator apps. Passkeys can be stored on an hardware security key (FIDO2 compatible) or in a password manager, potentially synced across devices. They are supported on mobile devices (iOS, Android) and by most browsers on computers. If you have any feedback, please contact us at ncc(a)ripe.net Kind regards, Felipe Victolla Silveira Chief Technology Officer RIPE NCC

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AI and the RIPE NCC
by Janos Zsako 31 Oct '25

31 Oct '25

Dear WG Members, As most of you are probably aware, there was recently a panel discussion in the RIPE NCC Services WG session in Bucharest about AI at the RIPE NCC: https://ripe91.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/sessions/33/P8BNJX/ Many of you have probably attended the session either in person or remotely, but for those who did not and are interested, the panel discussion was recorded and you can watch it at any time. The panel was an interactive session with key people from different areas of the RIPE NCC: - Eleonora Pedridou, Chief Information Security Officer - Antony Gollan, Communications Manager - Gabor de Wit, Chief Registry Officer - Robert Kisteleki, Principal Engineer The first two panelists were present on the stage, while the latter two joined remotely. I do not want to go now into too much detail, but I want to summarize that the panelists, after presenting their initial thoughts, reacted to three different questions we asked from the audience via Kahoot. The three questions were about - the opportunities, - the threats - and any other so far uncovered issues related to the use of AI at the RIPE NCC. We got plenty of feedback, in the form of a Word Cloud. The panelists reacted to the items they felt to be most relevant, but obviously, due to time constraints, we were not able to cover all issues raised. I now take the opportunity to list most of the answers given to each question. I tried to list them in the order of the size they appeared on the screen, but this is by no means the order of importance as most answers had a similar size. I also tried to group similar answers. I would like to ask all of you to react to any of these items, if you feel the NCC and the community should take that aspect into consideration. Of course you are welcome to raise any issue that did not show up during the panel discussion. I think the panel discussion was great, as many opinions were expressed by the community both in the Kahoot answers and in the comments at the microphone. It would be very useful to continue this discussion on this mail list. Have fun! Best regards, Janos Opportunities: Automation, Automation of checks, Automation/assistant Efficiency, Speed Data mining Research Measurements Advisory Supporting staff Only for first draft Assistance Fast correlation Help staff Anomaly detection Sanity checking Pattern finding Smart policy search Risk analysis Planning Help support Survival Risks: Hallucination Data leaks Dehumanization Limit of diversity Security Bias False certainty Loss of control Incorrect data Climate impact Unaccountability World domination It's good to learn Data protection Future price rises No more progress Dependence Brain rot Ethical issues Copyright problems MCPs sharing Spiralling costs Untrustworthy answer Abuse Staff decrease Bubble Automation Bias Haven't considered: Environmental impact, Climate impact, The Planet, Environmental cost Costs, The long term costs, Financial costs, Future price rises, Long term cost of AI Keep right balance Dependence Green Local No AI at all? A usage POLICY! Loss of competence AI WG Precision IPR violations World domination Bots talking to bots

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Call for RIPE NCC Services Working Group Chair
by Janos Zsako 09 Oct '25

09 Oct '25

Call for RIPE NCC Services Working Group Chair Please DO NOT reply to this message if you wish to volunteer or propose a volunteer. In accordance with the chair selection process we announce that the term of one of our co-chairs (Rob Evans) will soon expire and we would like to invite volunteers, or nominations, for someone to become a co-chair of the RIPE NCC Services working group. Anyone may volunteer, and anyone may be nominated by someone else. To do this, please send a mail to ncc-services-wg-chairs(a)ripe.net before the end of Tuesday 7th October 2025 (UTC). It would be helpful for candidates to provide some words as to why they think they ought to be a co-chair, what new ideas, or improvements they might bring, and so on. We will publish the list of volunteers, along with anything the volunteers include with their nomination, to this mailing list on Wednesday 8th October 2025. Discussion and support (or opposition) for each candidate can then be offered on the list. At the NCC Services working group session at RIPE 91, Stefan and Janos will announce the candidate based on the mailing list discussion. Timeline Wednesday 24 September This call for volunteers posted to the ncc-services-wg mail list Tuesday 7 Oct Deadline for volunteers Wednesday 8 Oct List of volunteers and call for support posted to the mail list Tuesday 21 Oct Deadline for showing support for volunteers on the mail list Wednesday 22 Oct NCC Services WG session at RIPE 91 References The RIPE working group chair job description is included in ripe-692: https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-692 A guide for New RIPE WG Chairs is in RIPE-765: https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-765 The tasks associated with the RIPE WG Chair Collective are described in RIPE-749: https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-749 The guidelines for managing WG mailing lists are in RIPE-764: https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-764 The RIPE NCC Services working group chair selection process is documented here: https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/active-wg/services/ripe-ncc-servic… RIPE WG Chair Training is available on the RIPE NCC Academy: https://academy.ripe.net/enrol/index.php?id=16#section-1 (in order to view these pages you need to sign in) Of course, the RIPE Code of Conduct is described in RIPE-766: https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-766 As always, please feel free to reach out to any of the chairs directly, to us as a group at ncc-services-wg-chairs(a)ripe.net, or discuss this or any other any relevant topic on this mailing list. All the very best, Janos on behalf of the RIPE NCC Service WG Co-chairs

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Open House on RIPE NCC Strategy 2027-2031: 9 October, 11:30 UTC
by Fergal Cunningham 06 Oct '25

06 Oct '25

Dear all, On Thursday this week, 9 October at 11:30 UTC, there will be an Open House where you can join online with RIPE NCC management to discuss our draft five-year strategy. This strategy will guide our work for the coming years, so getting your input at this stage of the process is very important. Our Managing Director, Hans Petter Holen, will present the draft strategy and then we will discuss it with our members and community. You can register for the Open House at: https://www.ripe.net/meetings/open-house/strategy-2027-2031/ All information on this consultation, including the draft strategy document, is available at: https://www.ripe.net/s/draft-strategy-consultation And we encourage all RIPE NCC members to take the short consultation survey, which asks some key questions that can help guide us in the right direction: https://www.ripe.net/s/draft-strategy-consultation-survey We will follow the Open House with presentations and a BoF at the upcoming RIPE 91 Meeting in Bucharest, so we encourage you to also take part in discussions there, whether in-person or online: https://ripe91.ripe.net/ Kind regards, Fergal Cunningham Head of Membership Engagement RIPE NCC

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RIPE NCC Quarterly Planning Q4 2025
by Boris Duval 23 Sep '25

23 Sep '25

Dear colleagues, We have now published the upcoming quarterly plans for our development teams: https://www.ripe.net/quarterly-planning We publish these plans each quarter to showcase the work items we will be carrying out over the next months. We welcome your feedback and encourage you to suggest items that the RIPE NCC should be working on going forward. The plans cover the following areas: - RIPE Database - Business Applications, including the LIR Portal, Registry Services and other applications. - DNS and K-root - RIPE Atlas - RIPEstat - Resource Public Key Infrastructure (RPKI) - Routing Information Service (RIS) - Information Security, Risk, and Compliance - Training and Certification If you have any questions or input on these plans, please share your suggestions on this list or the RIPE NCC Forum: https://forum.ripe.net/ Kind regards, Boris Duval Communications Officer RIPE NCC

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Consultation on Draft RIPE NCC Strategy 2027-2031
by Fergal Cunningham 22 Sep '25

22 Sep '25

Dear all, We are pleased to share our Draft RIPE NCC Strategy 2027-2031, now available at: https://www.ripe.net/s/draft-strategy-consultation/ The publication of the draft strategy marks the beginning of the consultation phase with our members and community, so we invite you to review the document and share your feedback. Your input is essential in helping to shape the final strategy that will set our direction for the coming years. You can have your say and contribute to the draft strategy by: - Sharing your thoughts on this mailing list - If you are a RIPE NCC member, taking the member consultation survey: https://www.ripe.net/s/draft-strategy-consultation-survey This survey allows members to easily give guidance on member-related matters such as development of Registry services. The survey is not anonymous - you will need to sign in with your RIPE NCC Access account. We are holding an online session with the RIPE NCC leadership to discuss the draft strategy on 9 October. You can register for this Open House at: https://www.ripe.net/s/open-house/strategy-2027-2031/ We will also have discussions on the draft strategy at the upcoming RIPE 91 Meeting, which we encourage you all to participate in. However you choose to provide your input on our draft strategy, we hope you will do so in the coming weeks. We consider this to be our key governance document, establishing the framework that will guide all our work for years to come. So please take this opportunity to join our consultation and let us know what we can do to bring value to you and to the Internet. Kind regards, Fergal Cunningham Head of Membership Engagement RIPE NCC

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Call for presentations and co-chairs
by Rob Evans 09 Sep '25

09 Sep '25

Dear Working Group members, The co-chairs of the RIPE NCC Services Working Group hope you have had a good summer! With many thanks to the RIPE NCC, the minutes for our session at RIPE 90 are available at: https://www.ripe.net/community/wg/active-wg/services/minutes/ripe-ncc-servi… If you have any comments, please send them to us at <ncc-services-wg-chairs(a)ripe.net>. We now invite you to submit your proposals for the session taking place during RIPE 91. From RIPE 91 onwards, all plenary and working group proposals can be submitted through the same system, Pretalx. How to submit your talk: 1. Go to the RIPE 91 Call for Presentations page and click on "Submit a topic": https://ripe91.ripe.net/present/call-for-presentations/ 2. Follow the instructions to set up an account on Pretalx. [1] 3. Important: When filling in the submission form, please pay attention to the dropdown menu under "Track". This is where you select which working group (track) you would like to submit your talk for. You can also send ideas for topics or presentations directly to us first. We can then discuss if it is feasible for this meeting before you submit the slides to Pretalx. Please contact us or the RIPE NCC if you encounter any problems with Pretalx. It is also my (Rob) turn to step down from co-chairing this working group. If you are interested in helping to co-chair everybody’s favourite working group, please consider volunteering. Fame and fortune are within your grasp! [2] The formal call will be sent out by the other co-chairs four weeks before the meeting, around the 24th September, and that will be open for two weeks before a call for expressions of support, and hopefully consensus, on the list that will take us up to the meeting. Regards, Rob, Janos, Stefan [1] Detailed instructions on how to use Pretalx are available here: https://ripe91.ripe.net/present/how-to-submit-a-talk/ [2] Fame and fortune may be within your grasp, but that is unlikely to be connected with co-chairing the working group.

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