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PDP stuff
by Sander Steffann 29 Apr '13

29 Apr '13

Hi NCCS! :-) As you probably have noticed your WG chair job responsibilities are shifting since there are active PDP policy proposals in your WG. It seems you forgot to put those proposals on your agenda :-) If you need help/advice/guidance/etc on running PDP stuff please don't hesitate to ask those of us who have more experience. I was just talking with Gert about Erik Bais' new proposal about asking the NCC to do resource certification for non-members: “Resource Certification for organizations who are not RIPE NCC members”. Which WG does this belong in? The previous certification policy proposals have been in AP, but people have asked me why they were in AP instead of in NCCS. This new proposal is again on the border between our WGs. What do you think? And do you feel up to taking on this proposal or would you prefer us to handle it? It is one of those proposals that might be easy, or it might need a lot of guidance behind the scenes (guidance of the proposer that is, we don't do back-room deals ;-) Sorry if I seem to be involving myself too much in your WG, but the stuff in NCCS is important to the community and we can't afford to let things slip here. No offence intended! But help is offered :-) Cheers, Sander

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[news] Policy Proposal 2012-09 "Modification of The Time Limits For Temporary Internet Assignments" implemented
by Marisol Estrada 25 Apr '13

25 Apr '13

[Apologies for duplicate emails] Dear Colleagues, We are pleased to announce that RIPE policy proposal 2012-09, "Modification of The Time Limits For Temporary Internet Assignments", has been implemented. The RIPE NCC is now ready to accept requests for temporary assignments under this policy. The full proposal can be found at: <https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-09> The updated "Temporary Internet Number Assignment Policies" document is available at: <http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-587> The "Temporary Internet Number Assignment Request Form " can be found at: <http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-586> The supporting notes can be found at: <http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-585> If you have any questions, please contact <ncc(a)ripe.net>. Regards, Marisol Estrada RIPE NCC

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2012-07 New Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (RIPE NCC Services to Legacy Internet Resource Holders)
by Marco Schmidt 25 Apr '13

25 Apr '13

Dear Colleagues, The draft document for the proposal described in 2012-07, "RIPE NCC Services to Legacy Internet Resource Holders" has been published. The impact analysis that was conducted for this proposal has also been published You can find the full proposal and the impact analysis at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-07 and the draft document at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-07/draft We encourage you to read the draft document text and send any comments to ncc-services-wg(a)ripe.net before 23 May 2013. Regards Marco Schmidt Policy Development Office RIPE NCC

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Re: [ncc-services-wg] 2012-08 New Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Independent Number Resources)
by Sascha Luck 23 Apr '13

23 Apr '13

On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 02:33:08PM +0200, Marco Schmidt wrote: >You can find the full proposal and the impact analysis at: > > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-08 To recap: my main point of contention with this proposal is that it creates a perception of responsibility of the sponsoring LIR for the actions of the end user - which does not exist beyond keeping the ripedb updated. Thus it creates an attack surface for those who see it as their duty to keep the internet free of <insert agenda here>. Which will make it hard to impossible for a controversial or otherwise inconvenient independent resource holder (or applicant) to find or keep a sponsoring LIR. Impact Statement: "During implementation of this policy, the RIPE NCC will contact those organisations acting as sponsoring LIRs to notify them of this change and allow them time to react appropriately, by reviewing their sponsoring LIR agreements and terminating any they do not want to be associated with (or even all of them)." The wording is ambiguous and may refer to resources "brought in" under 2007-01/Phase III, but it can be read as if a sponsoring LIR will get an opportunity to break a sponsorship contract with an inconvenient end-user, thus orphaning them before an attack even happens. I would ask the NCC to please clarify the intention of this sentence, and note that https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/resource-management/independent-resources… does specify a notice period of 3 months for termination of the IR contract, otherwise we're looking at a case of Breach of Contract. For the record and the avoidance of doubt: I still oppose this proposal for the above mentioned reason. Kind Regards, Sascha Luck > >We encourage you to read the draft document text and send any comments >to ncc-services-wg(a)ripe.net before 20 May 2013. > >Regards > >Marco Schmidt >Policy Development Office >RIPE NCC > >

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New on RIPE Labs: Introducing the RIPE NCC Roadmap
by Mirjam Kuehne 22 Apr '13

22 Apr '13

Dear colleagues, We often get asked about the status of our different services and projects, and while we frequently publish updates on RIPE Labs, we now have a new tool that makes it easier to stay informed. We're happy to announce the RIPE NCC Roadmap, where you can get an overview of all the latest developments and future plans for these services in one place. https://labs.ripe.net/Members/mirjam/introducing-ripe-ncc-roadmap This prototype, which is hosted on RIPE Labs, will be further developed as we receive your feedback, so please let us know what you think. Kind regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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2012-08 New Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Independent Number Resources)
by Marco Schmidt 22 Apr '13

22 Apr '13

Dear Colleagues, The draft document for the proposal described in 2012-08, "Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Independent Number Resources" has been published. The impact analysis that was conducted for this proposal has also been published. You can find the full proposal and the impact analysis at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-08 and the draft document at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-08/draft We encourage you to read the draft document text and send any comments to ncc-services-wg(a)ripe.net before 20 May 2013. Regards Marco Schmidt Policy Development Office RIPE NCC

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Certifying of PI End User Address Space
by de Brün, Markus 12 Apr '13

12 Apr '13

Hey Andrew, I was hoping PI-space would eventually be coverd by RPKI. As a PI-space holder, who is not a RIPE NCC member, I would prefer option 2. Since the sponsoring LIR (in our case Deutsche Telekom) already has a contractual relationship with the RIPE NCC, this seems to be the straightforward approach. Option 3 is also okay although I understand the issue of non-members benefiting of RIPE-NCC services. If it comes to that, I am prepared to pay a fee as well ;-) Regards, Markus de Brün

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RPKI Validator 2.8 released
by Alex Band 11 Apr '13

11 Apr '13

For those of you who use the 5.5 /8s worth of certified address space in the RPKI repository, we just released a new version of the Validator toolset: https://www.ripe.net/certification/tools-and-resources This version now properly handles other types of RPKI objects, such as Ghostbuster records (rfc6493). Cheers, Alex P.S. You can watch it in action here: http://rpki01.fra2.de.euro-transit.net:8080/roas

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Plan to discontinue email signing from certain addresses
by Alex Band 09 Apr '13

09 Apr '13

Dear colleagues, One of the goals of the RIPE NCC is to simplify and streamline our infrastructure and internal processes. Over the years, we have taken great strides in making our infrastructure easier to maintain and more cost effective. However, there are a couple of legacy scripts and tools that are entangled deeply in our workflows and are very hard to phase out on the short term. One of these legacy tools is our ticketing system. The infrastructure we need and the resources it costs is disproportionate to the amount of value that it offers. Migrating away from it in one go is proving to be very complicated. This is why we have decided on a phased approach. One element of the ticketing system that will be affected in the first phase is PGP Authentication: https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/resource-management/contact/pgp-authentic… Signing emails from hostmaster(a)ripe.net, lir-help(a)ripe.net, new-lir(a)ripe.net and enum(a)ripe.net is one of the first pieces that we need to remove in order to phase out all the legacy software. While we realise that it is a best practice to sign such emails and are aware of the value it offers, we are planning to discontinue email signing from just these addresses starting 1 January 2014. It will allow us to phase out a part of our infrastructure that makes future migration a lot easier, while saving cost in the mean time. Please note that this change will not affect email interaction with the RIPE Database. As soon as we have replaced our current ticketing system, we will re-evaluate email signing. As we may have overlooked some potential issues that certain members of our Community might have if we discontinue this functionality, naturally we are open to your feedback. Kind regards, Alex Band Product Manager RIPE NCC

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Status of 2012-07
by Lindqvist Kurt Erik 05 Apr '13

05 Apr '13

All, We wanted to provide an update on the next steps for 2012-07. The document will be moved to the next Phase (Review phase), this will be done with a version 3 of the document. The changes between version 2 and version 3 are non-significant, and we believe they do not justify a complete re-run of Phase 2. The changes to the document are in-line with the requests made by the community. Last, the RIPE NCC are working on the Impact study for this proposal and will post this to the list as soon as it's available. Best regards, Kurtis & Bijal

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