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NCC Services WG Draft Agenda - RIPE 66
by Bijal Sanghani 07 May '13

07 May '13

Dear All, Please see below and online the Draft Agenda for the NCC Services WG at RIPE 66 - https://ripe66.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/services-wg/ regards, Bijal === Date: Wednesday 15 May 2013 Time: 16.00 - 17.45 Chair: Kurtis Lindqvist Co-Chair: Bijal Sanghani A. Administrative Matters (5 minutes) Welcome Select a scribe Finalise agenda Approve minutes from RIPE 65 B. Report from RIPE NCC - Axel Pawlik, RIPE NCC (25 minutes) C. RIPE NCC Survey 2013 - Serge Radovcic, RIPE NCC (20 minutes) D. Internet Governance update - Paul Rendek, RIPE NCC (20 minutes) E. Registration Services update - Andrew de la Haye (20 minutes) F. Open Microphone Session Z. AOB

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time slot reshuffling
by Gert Doering 07 May '13

07 May '13

Dear AP and NCC Service WG members, dear RIPE meeting team, the original plan for this RIPE meeting was to have two timeslots for the AP WG meeting (Wednesday 09:00-10:30 and 11:00-12:30) and one timeslot for the NCC services WG meeting (Wed 16:00-17:30). Somewhat unexpected, APWG has a very light agenda due to a number of proposals having reached consensus or having been withdrawn, while NCC Services has a much heavier agenda than usual, with lots of proposals needing proper time for discussion. So the APWG chairs and NCC Services WG chairs have agreed to use the "Wednesday 11:00-12:30" time slot not for AP but for the NCC Services working group (overlapping with the DNS working group). That is, APWG will only meet between 09:00 and 10:30, while NCC services will meet twice, 11:00-12:30 and 16:00-17:30. The RIPE meeting team will update the meeting plan on the web ASAP, and you'll see new agenda drafts for both working groups shortly. Sorry for the late change in planning, and apologies for any confusion caused by this... Gert Doering, for the AP WG and NCC Services Chairs -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 ----- End forwarded message ----- Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279

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New on RIPE Labs: Introduction of RIPE Atlas Quick Looks
by Mirjam Kuehne 07 May '13

07 May '13

Dear colleagues, A new RIPE Atlas feature is now available to RIPE NCC members: Quick Look measurements. Members can use this service for a quick, real-time assessment of connectivity without hosting a RIPE Atlas probe. This feature is based on one-off measurements that are available to all RIPE Atlas probe hosts. Please find more information on RIPE Labs: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/kistel/ripe-atlas-quick-look-for-members Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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Re: [ncc-services-wg] 2012-07 New Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (RIPE NCC Services to Legacy Internet Resource Holders)
by Niall O'Reilly 07 May '13

07 May '13

Hello. I went to read the Impact Analysis just this afternoon, and was shocked at the incomplete and confusing state of the relevant pages on the RIPE NCC web site. I feel it's appropriate to call "false start" on the current Review Phase, and to have the clock re-started when these pages have been put right. Three versions of the proposal have been announced: v1.0 on 27 Aug 2012, v2.0 on 24 Jan 2013, and v3.0 on 25 Apr 2013 (by Marco's message quoted and commented on below). On 25 Apr 2013, at 14:38, Marco Schmidt wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > The draft document for the proposal described in 2012-07, > "RIPE NCC Services to Legacy Internet Resource Holders" > has been published. The impact analysis that was conducted for this > proposal has also been published > > You can find the full proposal and the impact analysis at: > > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-07 This is dated 27 Aug 2012. The status panel to the right identifies it as v1.0. Under "all versions", only version 1.0 of 27 Aug 2012 is listed. The text shown is that of v2.0, anounced 24 Jan 2013. The Impact Analysis is also shown here, dated "March 2013" (without a specific day). This analysis does not identify which version of the proposal was used as its basis. > and the draft document at: > > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-07/draft This is still dated 27 Aug 2012. The status panel shows the same version information and date as mentioned above. The text shown here is that of v3.0, submitted on 08 Mar 2013 and (as agreed: see http://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ncc-services-wg/2013-April/002289.ht…) held for publication until the NCC's Impact Analysis would be ready. The Impact Analysis is not shown here. > We encourage you to read the draft document text and send any comments > to ncc-services-wg(a)ripe.net before 23 May 2013. I encourage people to wait until the supporting material is arranged so as to facilitate their efforts, and look to the RIPE NCC to give this urgent attention. Best regards, Niall O'Reilly

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[training] New RIPE NCC IPv6 E-Learning tutorials
by Sandra Bras 02 May '13

02 May '13

[Apologies for duplicates] Dear colleagues, We are pleased to announce the launch of four new videos on IPv6 Transition Mechanisms as part of our online training. The topics include: - 6in4 - 6RD - NAT64 - DS-Lite You can watch them online at: https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/training/e-learning/ipv6/transition-mecha… Stay tuned! We plan to announce more exciting E-Learning news in the coming months. RIPE NCC E-Learning tutorials are provided as a free service available to everyone. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us at: e-learning(a)ripe.net. Happy learning, Sandra Brás Trainer / E-Learning Project Manager

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PDP stuff
by Sander Steffann 30 Apr '13

30 Apr '13

Hi NCCS! :-) As you probably have noticed your WG chair job responsibilities are shifting since there are active PDP policy proposals in your WG. It seems you forgot to put those proposals on your agenda :-) If you need help/advice/guidance/etc on running PDP stuff please don't hesitate to ask those of us who have more experience. I was just talking with Gert about Erik Bais' new proposal about asking the NCC to do resource certification for non-members: “Resource Certification for organizations who are not RIPE NCC members”. Which WG does this belong in? The previous certification policy proposals have been in AP, but people have asked me why they were in AP instead of in NCCS. This new proposal is again on the border between our WGs. What do you think? And do you feel up to taking on this proposal or would you prefer us to handle it? It is one of those proposals that might be easy, or it might need a lot of guidance behind the scenes (guidance of the proposer that is, we don't do back-room deals ;-) Sorry if I seem to be involving myself too much in your WG, but the stuff in NCCS is important to the community and we can't afford to let things slip here. No offence intended! But help is offered :-) Cheers, Sander

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[news] Policy Proposal 2012-09 "Modification of The Time Limits For Temporary Internet Assignments" implemented
by Marisol Estrada 25 Apr '13

25 Apr '13

[Apologies for duplicate emails] Dear Colleagues, We are pleased to announce that RIPE policy proposal 2012-09, "Modification of The Time Limits For Temporary Internet Assignments", has been implemented. The RIPE NCC is now ready to accept requests for temporary assignments under this policy. The full proposal can be found at: <https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-09> The updated "Temporary Internet Number Assignment Policies" document is available at: <http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-587> The "Temporary Internet Number Assignment Request Form " can be found at: <http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-586> The supporting notes can be found at: <http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-585> If you have any questions, please contact <ncc(a)ripe.net>. Regards, Marisol Estrada RIPE NCC

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2012-07 New Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (RIPE NCC Services to Legacy Internet Resource Holders)
by Marco Schmidt 25 Apr '13

25 Apr '13

Dear Colleagues, The draft document for the proposal described in 2012-07, "RIPE NCC Services to Legacy Internet Resource Holders" has been published. The impact analysis that was conducted for this proposal has also been published You can find the full proposal and the impact analysis at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-07 and the draft document at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-07/draft We encourage you to read the draft document text and send any comments to ncc-services-wg(a)ripe.net before 23 May 2013. Regards Marco Schmidt Policy Development Office RIPE NCC

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Re: [ncc-services-wg] 2012-08 New Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Independent Number Resources)
by Sascha Luck 23 Apr '13

23 Apr '13

On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 02:33:08PM +0200, Marco Schmidt wrote: >You can find the full proposal and the impact analysis at: > > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-08 To recap: my main point of contention with this proposal is that it creates a perception of responsibility of the sponsoring LIR for the actions of the end user - which does not exist beyond keeping the ripedb updated. Thus it creates an attack surface for those who see it as their duty to keep the internet free of <insert agenda here>. Which will make it hard to impossible for a controversial or otherwise inconvenient independent resource holder (or applicant) to find or keep a sponsoring LIR. Impact Statement: "During implementation of this policy, the RIPE NCC will contact those organisations acting as sponsoring LIRs to notify them of this change and allow them time to react appropriately, by reviewing their sponsoring LIR agreements and terminating any they do not want to be associated with (or even all of them)." The wording is ambiguous and may refer to resources "brought in" under 2007-01/Phase III, but it can be read as if a sponsoring LIR will get an opportunity to break a sponsorship contract with an inconvenient end-user, thus orphaning them before an attack even happens. I would ask the NCC to please clarify the intention of this sentence, and note that https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/resource-management/independent-resources… does specify a notice period of 3 months for termination of the IR contract, otherwise we're looking at a case of Breach of Contract. For the record and the avoidance of doubt: I still oppose this proposal for the above mentioned reason. Kind Regards, Sascha Luck > >We encourage you to read the draft document text and send any comments >to ncc-services-wg(a)ripe.net before 20 May 2013. > >Regards > >Marco Schmidt >Policy Development Office >RIPE NCC > >

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New on RIPE Labs: Introducing the RIPE NCC Roadmap
by Mirjam Kuehne 22 Apr '13

22 Apr '13

Dear colleagues, We often get asked about the status of our different services and projects, and while we frequently publish updates on RIPE Labs, we now have a new tool that makes it easier to stay informed. We're happy to announce the RIPE NCC Roadmap, where you can get an overview of all the latest developments and future plans for these services in one place. https://labs.ripe.net/Members/mirjam/introducing-ripe-ncc-roadmap This prototype, which is hosted on RIPE Labs, will be further developed as we receive your feedback, so please let us know what you think. Kind regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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