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Re: [ncc-services-wg] 2014-06 New Policy Proposal (Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Legacy Internet Resource Holders)
by Rob Evans 07 Aug '14

07 Aug '14

> https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2014-06 I wonder why this is in 3.0 rather than 2.3, but if that's where it fits best (and not wanting to embark on wordsmithing), support. Rob

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Re: [ncc-services-wg] 2014-06 New Policy Proposal (Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Legacy Internet Resource Holders)
by Carsten Schiefner 07 Aug '14

07 Aug '14

All - On 07.08.2014 16:17, Marco Schmidt wrote: > > A proposed change to RIPE Document ripe-605, "RIPE NCC Services to > Legacy Internet Resource Holders" is now available for discussion. > > > > You can find the full proposal at: > > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2014-06 > > We encourage you to review this proposal and send your comments to > <ncc-services-wg(a)ripe.net> before 5 September 2014. full support for the idea and the language. Best, -C.

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Re: [ncc-services-wg] 2014-06 New Policy Proposal (Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Legacy Internet Resource Holders)
by Andre Keller 07 Aug '14

07 Aug '14

Hi all, On 07.08.2014 16:17, Marco Schmidt wrote: > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2014-06 > > We encourage you to review this proposal and send your comments to > <ncc-services-wg(a)ripe.net> before 5 September 2014. I support this proposal. Regards André

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2014-06 New Policy Proposal (Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Legacy Internet Resource Holders)
by Marco Schmidt 07 Aug '14

07 Aug '14

Dear colleagues, A proposed change to RIPE Document ripe-605, "RIPE NCC Services to Legacy Internet Resource Holders" is now available for discussion. You can find the full proposal at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2014-06 We encourage you to review this proposal and send your comments to <ncc-services-wg(a)ripe.net> before 5 September 2014. Regards, Marco Schmidt Policy Development Officer RIPE NCC

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Re: [ncc-services-wg] Request for Feedback: Phasing Out Text-Based Email Request Forms
by Hank Nussbacher 05 Aug '14

05 Aug '14

Just as long as auto-dbm(a)ripe.net continues to function. :-) Hank On Aug 5, 2014 7:17 PM, Gert Doering <gert(a)space.net> wrote: > > Hi, > > On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 12:23:25PM +0200, Ingrid Wijte wrote: > > We contacted many LIRs who made requests using the text-based email > > forms and in most cases they were using them out of habit or due to > > specific workflows they had. Most said they would not mind to change > > to the LIR Portal request forms, or adjust their workflows to use an > > API. > > I'm a heavy mail form user, and I have been bitten by inconsistencies > in the robot in the past (requiring bits that are not in the form, or > refusing bits that *are* in the form, or lagging behind updated forms, > or just refusing to understand me)... > > The amount of interaction I have with the NCC these days is pretty > much "two requests for every new LIR that is set up" (initial-v6, > initial-v4), and every now and then, a spurious AS number or IPv6 PI, > maybe 5 formal requests in total per year. > > Given all that I would be fine with going through the LIR portal for > these few requests. Even if I still prefer mail to web interfaces :-) > > Gert Doering > -- speaking for two minor LIRs not doing much PI/AS business > -- > have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? > > SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard > Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann > D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) > Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279

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Re: [ncc-services-wg] [address-policy-wg] Crimea papers
by Sander Steffann 01 Aug '14

01 Aug '14

Hi, First, move this discussion to NCC Services and Members-discuss... > lets see this article > > http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=uriserv:OJ.L_.2014.226.0… I think these are the most relevant parts. First the definitions: > “brokering services” means: > (i) the negotiation or arrangement of transactions for the purchase, sale or supply of goods and technology or of financial and technical services, including from a third country to any other third country; or > (ii) the selling or buying of goods and technology or of financial and technical services, including where they are located in third countries for their transfer to another third country. > “technical assistance” means any technical support related to repairs, development, manufacture, assembly, testing, maintenance, or any other technical service, and may take forms such as instruction, advice, training, transmission of working knowledge or skills or consulting services; technical assistance includes verbal forms of assistance.’. Then under article 2c: > 2. Annex III shall include key equipment and technology related to the creation, acquisition or development of infrastructure in the following sectors: > [...] > (b) telecommunications; > [...] and > 3. It shall be prohibited to: > (a) provide, directly or indirectly, technical assistance or brokering services related to the key equipment and technology listed in Annex III, or related to the provision, manufacture, maintenance and use of items listed in Annex III to any natural or legal person, entity or body in Crimea or Sevastopol or for use in Crimea or Sevastopol; and > (b) provide, directly or indirectly, financing or financial asssistance related to the key equipment and technology listed in Annex III to any natural or legal person, entity or body in Crimea or Sevastopol or for use in Crimea or Sevastopol. As a networking person 'related to the provision [...] and use of items listed' does seem to include allocating number resources. I think we need some legal advice on this issue again... Cheers, Sander

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Crimea papers
by Max Tulyev 29 Jul '14

29 Jul '14

Hello All, Do RIPE NCC accept legal papers (i.e. company registration papers) issued by Russian occupation authorities in Crimea? If yes - why? I think RIPE NCC works under Dutch law, so if The Netherlands don't accept Crimea annexion - RIPE NCC should not accept these papers. In other case, RIPE NCC very probably violates Dutch law. Am I right?

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Crimea papers - Clarifying the RIPE NCC Legal Position
by Athina Fragkouli 29 Jul '14

29 Jul '14

Dear all, The RIPE NCC has the right to be contractually engaged with and to provide services to any legal entity, unless there are restrictions by law. Currently, Dutch law does not restrict our contractual engagement with, or provision of our services to, legal entities in Crimea. Dutch law does not restrict the RIPE NCC from using any means it finds appropriate as proof that a legal entity exists. Documents issued by national authorities are considered to be sufficient proof. The RIPE NCC can neither recognise nor deny one state’s authority over a region. Given the situation in Crimea, the RIPE NCC is striving to facilitate the provision of its services to network operators in this area and does not wish to deny services for political reasons. Kind regards, Athina Fragkouli Legal Counsel RIPE NCC

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Minutes from RIPE68
by Lindqvist Kurt Erik 29 Jul '14

29 Jul '14

The minutes from RIPE68 are now published at https://www.ripe.net/ripe/groups/wg/services/minutes/ripe-68-ripe-ncc-servi… Best regards, Lindqvist Kurt Erik kurtis(a)kurtis.pp.se

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Discussion on list
by Lindqvist Kurt Erik 29 Jul '14

29 Jul '14

All, this is just a friendly reminder that this list is for discussion regarding the services the RIPE NCC provides. The discussion regarding under what conditions these services are provided are on topic, general discussions regarding world politics isn't. So please keep your discussions on topic. Best regards Kurtis & Bijal Chairs of RIPE NCC Services WG.

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