Hi all! Yes. But it is about RIPE bills me, but not I bills my clients. I really don't want to lease or rent addresses, but to make several (or even regular) small payments instead of one big is useful in practice very often. BTW, same problems is PA assignment are not maintained by me.
Dear all,
Just a confirmation of what Gert just mentioned below. In addition I wanted to point out that the new draft Charging Scheme 2006 is available and will score PI IPv4 and AS number in an identical manner.
Below the link to the draft Charging Scheme 2006 on which the RIPE NCC General Meeting will vote in October.
http://www.ripe.net/ripe/draft-documents/gm-october2005/charging-scheme-200 6.html
Regards,
Jochem de Ruig RIPE NCC
At 06:35 PM 9/18/2005 +0200, Gert Doering wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 04:42:37PM +0100, Denesh Bhabuta wrote:
So, if LIR no longer has any control over the PI space via any sort of MNT, why should PI space still reside within LIR membership 'account' and continue contributing to membership size? Either ISP/ LIR should be able to remove PI Space from their membership or not be indirectly charged for it.
ripe-330, appendix I has the following to say regarding PI space:
----------- quote ------------- Note: For AS Numbers and PI IPv4 allocations, only the allocations from the past 12 months dating back from the 30 September 2004 are taken into account as these resources are allocated or assigned on behalf of third parties. ----------- quote -------------
so, as of today, the LIR is only charged for the very year where a PI network or AS number is assigned (and previous years didn't charge PI/ASn at all).
Regarding the future, this is something for the RIPE General Meeting to decide (not the "RIPE meeting", which is open for everyone, but the RIPE AGM, which decides things like billing, and is open for RIPE members only). Unless the AGM decides to change this rule, it's going to stay the same for the next year.
Personally, I think this approach makes sense. PI and AS numbers *do* cause work at the NCC, so a LIR that assigns lots of them should pay more. OTOH, the PI/AS holder might just go away afterwards, so charging the "correct" LIR for many years after the assignment is going to be administratively difficult (and likely unfair, in many cases).
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