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Using Atlas for commercial services
by Stephane Bortzmeyer 05 Sep '13

05 Sep '13

Hello, happy Atlasers, After reading <https://labs.ripe.net/Members/kranjbar/future-of-ripe-ncc-technical-services> (specially the part about using Atlas to monitor reachability from Nagios), the ToS <https://atlas.ripe.net/service-rules/> and checking the FAQ <https://atlas.ripe.net/about/faq/>, I still have a question: Can I use Atlas as a basis for commercial services? Today, most Atlas uses seem to be for public research, or for "selfish" measurements (checking my network). But I see nothing forbidding people to sell services (monitoring, quality assessment) to other people, based on Atlas. Is it on purpose? [Yes, I have one or two business ideas and I would like to know before I continue developing them.]

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Re: [atlas] Using Atlas for commercial services
by Hook 05 Sep '13

05 Sep '13

As already said, commercial usage would also mean that you have to earn credits in some way. As far as I know, it's only possible to earn credits by - hosting probes itself - sponsoring new probes - getting a LIR In either of the first two cases, the atlas project will benefit from it. The third one is a special case and isn't worth a discussion. So I think we should allow commercial usage of the Atlas project, if commercial usage still means to support the Atlas project itself because of the need for credits! Would be a win-win situation. Michael 2013/9/5 Daniel Karrenberg <daniel.karrenberg(a)ripe.net> > > On 05.09.2013, at 11:42 , Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer(a)nic.fr> wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 05:22:50PM +0800, > > Sanjeev Gupta <ghane0(a)gmail.com> wrote > > a message of 107 lines which said: > > > >> Adam Smith was right, the baker and the butcher feed me by being > selfish. > > > > So, apparently, there is no consensus among the Atlas community. An > > interesting discussion to have in Athens? > > It is a discussion we should have in the mat-wg. The working groups work > on the mailing lists; physical meetings are just focal points for the work. > > Daniel > > >

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Disabling one measurement on my probe...
by Warren Kumari 02 Sep '13

02 Sep '13

Hi all, Due to much stupidity my probe lives behind 2 NATs (don't ask). Anyway, one of the NATs / firewalls is suddenly throwing hissyfits and logging a bunch of messages like: [00005] 2013-08-27 17:33:29 [Root]system-critical-00435: ICMP fragment! From 78.46.37.134 to 192.168.15.207, proto 1 (zone Untrust, int ethernet3). Occurred 2 times. I can see the Measurement IDs that are causing this (1019675, 1019728), but I have two questions: 1: is there a way to disable specific measurements from a specific probe and 2: did anything change recently with the "Ping" measurement, like the packet size for example? I *did* spend some time reading the list archives and documentation, but was not able to find an answer. W P.S: And yes, I will sometime remove the NATs, but cannot until there is another ISP available -- I live in a 3rd world country where any broadened is a luxury, and multiple providers is more than one can reasonably expect… -- "When it comes to glittering objects, wizards have all the taste and self-control of a deranged magpie." -- Terry Pratchett

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Data visualization not working?
by Max Grobecker 29 Aug '13

29 Aug '13

Hi, is there any known reason/issue why new created measurements don't visualize the data? I'm pretty sure I ticked the "Visualize Data" box when creating a new measurement, but when I open my new measurement, the "RRD" tab is missing and in the settings the "Visualize" box is unchecked :-( Is it just me or do other people have the same issue? Greetings, Max

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Reddit?
by Daniel Quinn 29 Aug '13

29 Aug '13

Hello everyone, I'm one of the developers on the RIPE Atlas project and I'm hoping some of you can help me figure out if we should have a presence on [Reddit](http://www.reddit.com/) and if so, where. I'm a pretty active member of that community, so I was appointed to ask the lot of you if we should bother setting up a subreddit, or if we should just frequent any particular subreddit to answer questions and/or promote RIPE Atlas. So, does anyone reading this fancy the idea of better outreach on Reddit? And if so, in what way would you recommend? Feel free to post your responses to the list, or just respond to me directly. We'll let you know if we decide to branch out in this way.

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Success stories to share at RIPE67?
by Vesna Manojlovic 27 Aug '13

27 Aug '13

Hi RIPE Atlas active hosts & users, I know of two RIPE Atlas related talks that are still being considered for RIPE67 -- and there might be more! Do you have a success story to share? Plenary-talks CallForPapers is extended, and then there are working-group sessions too, MAT-wg being the most typical, but in the past there were presentations on using RIPE Atlas in IPv6-WG and DNS, and Routing-WG... If you need help with preparing slides, or doing extra measurements to prove your tests - do let us know! Good luck if you decide to present, and see you at RIPE67! Regards, Vesna -------- Original Message -------- Dear Colleagues, A list of currently accepted RIPE 67 Plenary talks, BoFs, Tutorials and Workshops is now published at: https://ripe67.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/draft-programme/ There are still few slots remaining for a final RIPE 67 programme and RIPE Programme Committee will accept new proposals until *9 September 2013*. This is our last call for you to submit your proposals. See https://ripe67.ripe.net/programme/cfp/ or find the original CFP below. Kind regards Filiz Yilmaz for RIPE Programme Committee ------------------ Call for Presentations A RIPE Meeting is an open event where Internet Service Providers, network operators and other interested parties get together. Although the meeting is mostly technical, it is also a chance for people to meet and network with others in their field. RIPE 67 will take place from 14-18 October 2013 in Athens, Greece. The RIPE Programme Committee (PC) is now seeking content proposals from the RIPE community for the plenary session presentations, BoFs (Birds of a Feather sessions), panels, workshops, tutorials and lightning talks at RIPE 67. The PC is looking for presentations covering topics of network engineering and operations, including but not limited to: * IPv6 deployment * Managing IPv4 scarcity in operations * Commercial transactions of IPv4 addresses * Data centre technologies * Network and DNS operations * Internet governance and regulatory practices * Network and routing security * Content delivery * Internet peering and mobile data exchange Submissions RIPE Meeting attendees are quite sensitive to keeping presentations non-commercial, and product marketing talks are strongly discouraged. Repeated audience feedback shows that the most successful talks focus on operational experience, research results, or case studies. For example, presenters wishing to describe a commercial solution should focus on the underlying technology and not attempt a product demonstration. The RIPE PC accepts proposals for different presentation formats, including plenary session presentations, tutorials, workshops, BoFs (Birds of a Feather sessions) and lightning talks. See the full descriptions of these formats at https://ripe67.ripe.net/programme/i-want-to-present/presentation-formats/ Presenters who are proposing a panel or BoF are encouraged to include speakers from several (perhaps even competing) companies and/or a neutral facilitator. In addition to presentations selected in advance for the plenary, the RIPE PC also offers several time slots for "lightning talks", which are selected immediately before or during the conference. The following general requirements apply: * Proposals for plenary session presentations, BoFs, panels, workshops and tutorials must be submitted for full consideration no later than 4 August 2013, using the meeting submission system (https://ripe67.ripe.net/submit-topic/) Proposals submitted after this date will be considered on a space-available basis. * Lightning talks should also be submitted using the meeting submission system (https://ripe67.ripe.net/submit-topic/) and can be submitted just days before the RIPE Meeting starts or even during the meeting week. The allocation of lightning talk slots will be announced in short notice - in some cases on the same day but often one day prior to the relevant session. * Presenters should indicate how much time they will require. See more information on time slot allocations per presentation format (https://ripe67.ripe.net/programme/i-want-to-present/presentation-formats/) * Proposals for talks will only be considered by the PC if they contain at least draft presentation slides (slides may be updated later on). For panels, proposals must contain a clear description, as well as the names of invited panelists, presenters and moderators. * Due to potential technical issues, it is expected that most, if not all, presenters/panelists will be physically present at the RIPE Meeting. If you have any questions or requests concerning content submissions, please email pc [at] ripe [dot] net.

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Garbage Measurements
by Michael Stevens 26 Aug '13

26 Aug '13

Hello, at the moment I'm seeing a lot of measurements on my both probes, that doesn't have any live target and, sometimes, have even invalid targets like 2001:db8:0:dead:beef::1 which is part of the IPv6 for documentation purposes. I've made a screenshot here: http://i.imgur.com/PRXHsOZ.png Can someone from RIPE check this out? Not sure if there is someone abusing RIPE Atlas in a nasty way. Michael

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Crediting for probe uptime
by Robert Kisteleki 23 Aug '13

23 Aug '13

Dear All, In the last two days we noticed a hickup in the crediting procedure (the one that gives credits to probe hosts and sponsors). We believe the proper fix is in place now. We just finished crediting everyone for the time period in question, which means all of the probes generated more than usual credits -- compensating for the missing ones lately, and some interest :-) We apologise for the inconvenience this may have caused. Regards, Robert Kisteleki

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On RIPE Labs: Future of the RIPE NCC technical services
by Vesna Manojlovic 23 Aug '13

23 Aug '13

Dear colleagues, please take a look at the Labs article by Kaveh Ranjbar, which touches upon the future of the RIPE Atlas services: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/kranjbar/future-of-ripe-ncc-technical-services Regards, Vesna

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IPv6 Report - Blank
by Tom Kacprzynski 22 Aug '13

22 Aug '13

Hello, Is anyone else having the issue of downloading IPv6 measurement reports? I ran few of them and the file is empty. I tried downloading both formats JSON and Fragment. I also tried downloading the public measurement without any luck either. Thanks -- *Tom Kacprzynski*

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