As already said, commercial usage would also mean that you have to earn credits in some way.

As far as I know, it's only possible to earn credits by

- hosting probes itself

- sponsoring new probes

- getting a LIR

In either of the first two cases, the atlas project will benefit from it. The third one is a special case and isn't worth a discussion.

So I think we should allow commercial usage of the Atlas project, if commercial usage still means to support the Atlas project itself because of the need for credits!
Would be a win-win situation.

Michael

2013/9/5 Daniel Karrenberg <daniel.karrenberg@ripe.net>

On 05.09.2013, at 11:42 , Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 05:22:50PM +0800,
> Sanjeev Gupta <ghane0@gmail.com> wrote
> a message of 107 lines which said:
>
>> Adam Smith was right, the baker and the butcher feed me by being selfish.
>
> So, apparently, there is no consensus among the Atlas community. An
> interesting discussion to have in Athens?

It is a discussion we should have in the mat-wg. The working groups work on the mailing lists; physical meetings are just focal points for the work.

Daniel