23 Nov
                
                    2015
                
            
            
                23 Nov
                
                '15
                
            
            
            
        
    
                1:11 p.m.
            
        On 23/11/2015 12:03, Daniel Karrenberg wrote:
Why exactly do we need to know the exact amount of this problem?
it would be useful to know the sources of the problem. Nick