And again, +1. Just for the record. Relying on an email provider that alters mail after sending is IMHO not acceptable.
On 1. Sep 2025, at 16:02, Sulev-Madis Silber via ripe-atlas <ripe-atlas@ripe.net> wrote:
it boggles my mind that ripe ncc doesn't run it's own infra and relies on spam company to forward them. i expect more mails end up in actual spam folder due them coming via so called email marketing provider
it also boggles my mind that it should be expected that anyone's mua even loads remote resources. many don't anymore for a long time. spam, viruses and other attacks have removed that nice feature. many allow whitelisted and trusted sources only. that skews this metric a ton
those reports also go to technical people who might use them without pixel being loaded anyway. i don't know, i receive them to their own aliases, they go into their own folders and system makes them read automatically. for stats / future use
and who came to this decision anyway. it feels like whoever it was, he never uses atlas him / herself. at least it very much feels so. what's fun is those things likely are decided by like team on 10 people or so
it's often problem everywhere, eg, bus schedules are often as if made by people who always drive a car. kind of user/decisionmaker disconnect. similar thing seems to happen here
i would expect better things from that 33 year old mature world famous highly knowledged important internet management organization that a réseaux IP européens network coordination centre established in year 1992 is
On September 1, 2025 4:13:16 PM GMT+03:00, Johan ter Beest <jterbeest@ripe.net> wrote:
Hi all,
We're using Brevo to send emails now and they add the tracking pixel. This happens also when you use their SMTP server and not their special templates.
Side effect is that they also send the email as HTML. I will see if I can force SMTP emails to be sent as plain text without a tracking pixel.
For the record: we are not using the tracking pixel for advertising purposes. It's purely so we know if the email was delivered and if it was opened so we get some idea how often people actually read these emails.
Cheers, Johan
On Mon, 1 Sept 2025 at 14:48, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
The html mail has no advantage for the user, as it looks like before. It seems the only purpose is the tracking pixel. Management/Advertisement people like it, I don't like it.
+1
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