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Re: RIPE 28 Meeting details
by Paul Ridley 13 Aug '97

13 Aug '97

Dear all, There seems to be a degree of ambiguity regarding our request for sponsors for RIPE 28 as is shown in a received mail below. Obviously I should choose my words more carefully :-). * > -Sponsers are urgently seeked to sponser lunch(s) and/or refreshments. * * I'd prefer Grolsch or Amstel over CocaCola, and a good A'dam based * Indonesian restaurant over McPlastics ;-) * To clarify matters we are *not* looking for donations of actual food and drink or sponsorship from companies such as CocaCola etc. We are looking for sponsorship from organisations preferably within our own RIPE community, or who have links with the RIPE community. The sponsership should take the form of financial donation which would be used to pay for particular catering needs. These catering details would be organised by the NCC. Thank you once again for your anticipated support and I hope that this clears up any degree of ambiguity. Regards Paul

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RIPE 28 hotel and VISA information
by RIPE NCC Meeting Registration 12 Aug '97

12 Aug '97

Dear All, As announced earlier, the 28th RIPE meeting will be held in Amsterdam from 24 untill 26 September 1997 at the Park Plaza in Amsterdam, the Netherlands . Included below is some info on hotels and obtaining VISA. HOTELS ------ We would like to inform you that the hotels in Amsterdam usually get booked quite fast in September, so you should be quick to make a reservation. More information on finding hotels in Amsterdam and Amsterdam in general can be found at: http://www.bookings.nl/cgi-bin/homepage.pl http://www.xxlink.nl/cities/amsterdam http://channels.nl/index2.html http://www.agenda.nl/medialink/amsterdam/hotelguide.html http://www.nbt.nl/NBT-amst-index.html http://city.net/countries/netherlands/amsterdam/ VISA: ----- Getting visa generally takes more time then one expects, we would therefore like to suggest you apply for a visa as fast as possible. On request, we can send you an invitation. If you want us to send an invitation, please tell us how many days and which days you are planning to stay. If, after the RIPE meeting, you want to stay some additional days we can invite you for some 'technical meetings' after the RIPE meeting ;-). Furthermore, please also give us your full name, birth date and passport number. If we mention these data in our invitation to you, it could facilitate getting the visa. Kind regards, Naomi de Bruyn RIPE NCC Meeting Registrations

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RIPE 28 Meeting details
by Paul Ridley 11 Aug '97

11 Aug '97

Dear all, On 9 Jul it was annouced that the 28th RIPE meeting would take place in Amsterdam from 24-26 September inclusive. This mail aims to confirm and add some more detail to that announcement. The meeting will be held in the 'Park Plaza' which is a building in the centre of Amsterdam. More details of the building, its exact address and directions of how to get there can be found on our web site <http://www.ripe.net/meetings/rip e/mtg.html>. RIPE meetings have traditionaly been held in academic accomodation whereby a subsidized level of location hire has been available. Unfortunately due to a combination of fuly booked university space and the growing size of the RIPE meeting itself, a commercial alternative has had to be found. This alternative being the 'Park Plaza'. The cost of holding a RIPE meeting in a commercial location is significant and these costs have to be recouped. To that end the admission charge to the RIPE meeting from now on will be 100 ECU (price including refreshments and lunch on all 3 days, but excluding the RIPE dinner). This charge will cover the location hire costs but will not cover the catering costs. Therefore we are urgently seeking sponsers who are willing to sponser a lunch(s) and/or refreshments. Potential sponsers are requested to get in contact with myself (Paul Ridley) in order to receive more information as to what would be desired and what the sponser could get in return. So to summarise: -RIPE 28 is being held at the 'Park Plaza' in Amsterdam from 24-26 September inclusive. -The admission charge (including refreshments and lunch, but excluding the RIPE dinner) is 100 ECU. -Sponsers are urgently seeked to sponser lunch(s) and/or refreshments. For more details and to register look at the following web site: <http://www.ripe.net/meetings/ripe/mtg.html> Regards Paul Ridley

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DE not the highest hostcount in July
by Mirjam Kuehne 11 Aug '97

11 Aug '97

Dear all, As someone pointed out correctly Germany did not show the highest increase in July as I said in my previous mail. Finland shows slightly higher numbers: CY SOA COUNTED DUPL REAL CHANGE ============================================================ de 54681 1013784 79934 933850 +29980 fi 5437 405786 9434 396352 +30077 Because the race is usually between the UK and Germany, I missed that. Sorry about this. Kind Regards, Mirjam

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New Document available: RIPE-161
by RIPE NCC Document Annoucement Service 08 Aug '97

08 Aug '97

New/Revised RIPE Document Announcement -------------------------------------- A revised/new document is available from the RIPE document store. Ref: ripe-161 Title: A New Structure for the RIPE NCC: De-facto Organisational Rules (Revised) Author: P. Ridley, K. Vietsch Date: 08 August 1997 Format: PS=208247 TXT=39660 Obsoletes: ripe-156 Obsoleted by: Updates: Updated by: See also: Short content description ------------------------- This document describes the de-facto organisational rules for the new RIPE NCC organisation. This is a revision of ripe-156 and has been updated to include the consensus of opinion indicated by the NCC contributors, via both electronic and verbal means. Accessing the RIPE document store --------------------------------- You can access the RIPE document store via the World Wide Web , at the following URL: http://www.ripe.net/docs/ripe-161.html The RIPE document store is also available via anonymous FTP to ftp.ripe.net, in the directory ripe/docs. The full filenames of the new documents on the FTP-server are: ripe/docs/ripe-161.ps for the PostScript version ripe/docs/ripe-161.txt for the plain text version Documents can also be retrieved from the RIPE document store using a mail server program. For more information on how to use the program, send email to <mail-server(a)ripe.net> with "send HELP" in the body text.

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Hostcount for July 1997
by Mirjam Kuehne 08 Aug '97

08 Aug '97

Dear all, Here is the hostcount for July 1997. The table shows an increase since last month of more than 100,000 (or 2.2%) to a total of over 4,800,000 hosts in the DNS in Europe and surrounding areas. DE shows the highest increase for July with almost 30,000 hosts more than in June. The hostcount can also be found under ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/hostcount. The graphical version of the hostcount can be found at ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/hostcount/RIPE-Hostcount-{Mo,Qu}.eps The translation of the country codes can be found at ftp://ftp.ripe.net/iso3166-countrycodes All this data can also be found at http://www.ripe.net/statistics/hostcount.html If you are intersted in the historic hostcount data, bunyip Information Services is hosting the complete set of data since 1994 under ftp://ftp.bunyip.com/pub/netstats/ripe I would like to thank all people who help me to create the hostcount every month by counting hosts locally: at Gerhard Winkler <winkler(a)cc.univie.ac.at> be Herman Moons <Herman.Moons(a)CS.kuleuven.ac.be> ch Marcel Schneider <hostmaster(a)nic.ch> cy Panagiotis Tzounakis <pj(a)ics.forth.gr> cz Jiri Orsag <Jiri.Orsag(a)eunet.cz> de Peter Koch <pk(a)TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE> dk Robert Martin-Legene <robert(a)dknet.dk> es Jose Sanchez-Seco <jose.sanchez(a)rediris.es> fi Petri Ojala <ojala(a)eunet.fi> fr Annie Renard <Annie.Renard(a)inria.fr> gr Dimitris Zisiadis <zisiadis(a)forthnet.gr> hr Ivan Maric <Ivan.Maric(a)stribor.srce.hr> hu Gabor Kiss <kissg(a)sztaki.hu> ie Mike Norris <mnorris(a)dalkey.hea.ie> il Sason Levi <sason(a)NetVision.net.il> it Antonio_Blasco Bonito <bonito(a)nis.garr.it> no Havard Eidnes <Havard.Eidnes(a)runit.sintef.no> pl Mirek Luc <mirek(a)nask.pl> pt Armando Domingues <fccn(a)dns.pt> ru Andrey Dobrotsvetov <adbr(a)ripn.net> sk Ivan Lescak <Ivan.Lescak(a)Slovakia.EU.net> Lubos Elias <Lubos.Elias(a)uakom.sk> sm Antonio_Blasco Bonito <bonito(a)nis.garr.it> tr Yener Yigit <yener(a)knidos.cc.metu.edu.tr> uk Kevin Hoadley <K.Hoadley(a)nosc.ja.net> Robert Stone <robert(a)nosc.ja.net> If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Kind regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC RIPE DNS Hostcount Previous Count : Mon Jun 30 1997 This Count : Thu Jul 31 1997 CY SOA COUNTED DUPL REAL CHANGE ============================================================ al 6 107 0 107 0 am 35 346 21 325 + 2 at 8814 118186 16353 101833 + 9036 az 6 81 1 80 + 2 ba 12 58 2 56 0 be 5900 96250 5982 90268 + 1512 bg 288 5814 268 5546 + 1517 by 27 476 30 446 + 67 ch 14682 169883 14504 155379 + 8315 cy 322 2106 52 2054 + 99 cz 4050 46258 2051 44207 - 5404 de 54681 1013784 79934 933850 +29980 dk 27121 150508 13013 137495 + 3516 dz 2 34 1 33 0 ee 932 12954 588 12366 + 381 eg 269 2283 61 2222 + 98 es 5647 176672 4493 172179 + 2645 fi 5437 405786 9434 396352 +30077 fo 47 242 5 237 + 77 fr 10439 328950 16965 311985 + 7957 gb 2 40 0 40 0 ge 18 315 6 309 - 5 gr 1361 23094 1109 21985 + 1407 hr 806 7963 1112 6851 + 344 hu 1968 47643 4087 43556 + 1806 ie 2866 35480 2197 33283 + 263 il 3375 69902 6005 63897 + 2670 is 565 14476 281 14195 + 327 it 16926 278997 28547 250450 + 7875 li 174 655 164 491 + 88 lt 371 2934 203 2731 + 67 lu 672 4393 522 3871 + 189 lv 323 7757 432 7325 + 425 ma 59 998 97 901 + 97 md 22 205 26 179 + 32 mk 35 451 28 423 + 24 mt 107 926 117 809 + 34 nl 18917 365800 21093 344707 + 1862 no 10030 222190 12290 209900 - 194 pl 4882 81731 7296 74435 + 790 pt 2349 38517 1977 36540 + 1854 ro 626 8614 640 7974 + 1076 ru 4657 73629 6536 67093 - 8248 se 18661 310387 15626 294761 + 5002 si 1289 19079 1959 17120 + 84 sk 1667 13767 2492 11275 + 262 sm 18 742 9 733 + 94 su 771 20119 792 19327 -18159 tn 2 46 6 40 0 tr 2555 25848 2642 23206 - 1390 ua 574 14955 3500 11455 + 1180 uk 60808 1038399 138501 899898 +12707 va 2 10 0 10 0 yu 548 3610 152 3458 - 272 ============================================================ 296723 5264450 424202 4840248 +102168

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Request for participation: Internet measurement tool at ISI
by davidk＠isi.edu 29 Jul '97

29 Jul '97

Hi all, I got a request from a colleague of mine if I knew sites in the working area of RIPE (note: not just Europe) that might be willing to participate in research regarding Internet measurements that ISI is conducting. Please contact Grig Gheorghiu <grig(a)ISI.EDU> directly if you are willing/interested to participate by running their Internet measurement tool as described below. Also, feel free to forward this mail to people that you know that might have an interest in this, David K. --- Grig Gheorghiu writes: > To: davidk > Cc: katia(a)isi.edu > Subject: Internet measurement tool > From: Grig Gheorghiu <grig(a)ISI.EDU> > > Hi, David > > This is a short desciption of what the tool, called > topologyd, does: > > The tool, which runs as a daemon, estimates available network > bandwidth and delay among participating sites. Based on these > estimates, the tool computes a logical topology connecting the > participating sites. Logical link costs are currently set to be the > ratio between estimated bandwidth and delay. The tool has an interface > that allows the estimates, topology, etc. to be displayed using a web > browser, such as Netscape. The initial motivation for the tool was to > propagate updates among replicated sites efficiently and in a > network-friendly way. > Software requirements are SunOS and perl. No special privileges > are required for the account. > > We already have a group of machines across USA running this tools. > The "master" of the group can be found at http://excalibur.usc.edu:9000. > It would be very interesting to have some machines in Europe, too. > Currently there is only one machine in Europe, in Greece (Crete actually). > > Thank you very much, > Grig Gheorghiu > > P.S. The leader of this project is Dr. Katia Obraczka here at ISI. ---

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New Document available: RIPE-159
by RIPE NCC Document Annoucement Service 29 Jul '97

29 Jul '97

Appologies if you receive this announcement multiple times, but we have decided to send it to several lists to make sure everyone receives it. New/Revised RIPE Document Announcement -------------------------------------- A revised/new document is available from the RIPE document store. Ref: ripe-159 Title: European Internet Registry Policies and Procedures Author: RIPE Local Internet Registry Working Group Date: 29 July, 1997 Format: PS=986609 TXT=223669 Obsoletes: ripe-104, ripe-105, ripe-136, ripe-140 Obsoleted by: Updates: Updated by: See also: Short content description ------------------------- At the last RIPE Meeting (RIPE 27), the Local IR Working Group requested several changes/additions to be made to the ripe-140 document. Ripe-159 is the revised version of this document. The requested changes were: 1) Adding a few sentences to section 7 about returning AS numbers. 2) Adding a reference in section 3.5 to rfc2008 recommendations for the time allowed for renumbering. 3) Changing the wording in section 6.3 about confidentality to make it stronger. 4. Updating section 6.2 about the local-ir and lir-wg mailing lists, because local-ir is now moderated. Aside from these requested changes, we have also made some minor improvements here and there- to clarify the wording, or add a better example, or update some information that has changed. For example, section 6 previously said that <billing(a)ripe.net> does new registry set-up, however that is now done by <ncc(a)ripe.net>. Also, the RIPE NCC is now using an improved reverse delegation robot, so section 5 had to be updated in some places. Paula Caslav RIPE NCC Accessing the RIPE document store --------------------------------- You can access the RIPE document store via the World Wide Web; RIPE-159 is now available from the WWW at the following URL: http://www.ripe.net/docs/ripe-159.html The RIPE document store is also available via anonymous FTP to ftp.ripe.net, in the directory ripe/docs. The full filenames of the new documents on the FTP-server are: ripe/docs/ripe-159.ps for the PostScript version ripe/docs/ripe-159.txt for the plain text version Documents can also be retrieved from the RIPE document store using a mail server program. For more information on how to use the program, send email to <mail-server(a)ripe.net> with "send HELP" in the body text.

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RIPE 27 TLD BoF minutes
by RIPE NCC Meeting Registration 23 Jul '97

23 Jul '97

MINUTES OF TLD ADMINISTRATORS BOF Thursday 22nd May 1997 RIPE 27 - Dublin A list of participants may be found at the end Chair: Niall O'Reilly <Niall.oReilly(a)ucd.ie> Guest: Christopher Wilkinson <Christopher.Wilkinson(a)bxl.dg13.cec.be> Scribe: Chris Fletcher <chris(a)ripe.net> Chairman's note. Special thanks are due to Chris Fletcher of the RIPE NCC who kindly volunteered to take notes during the BOF meeting. In preparing the notes for publication, Chris has taken care to respect thematic continuity rather than strict chronological sequence, thus enhancing the clarity of the record. 1. The first point of the BOF was discussion as to the purpose of the proposed TLD working group. It was concluded that this working group would be different from other RIPE WGs since it should have a clear policy emphasis, and not a technical one. It was pointed out by Peter Lothberg that technical issues and constraints should be kept in mind when deciding policies. It was felt that the holding of the working group within the RIPE framework would have the benefit of RIPE being able to give a technical reality check for any policy decisions. 2. Willie Black raised concerns that not many TLD administrations were represented at the RIPE meeting and that those that were there were purely technical people. He suggested that the TLD managers needed to be present at this working group. Rob Blokzijl agreed with Willie's suggestion and hoped that increasing numbers of the managers would attend. On polling the attendance it was found that representatives of the following TLDs were present: .at .cz .fr .hu .no .si .be .de .ie .li .pt .uk .ch .es .it .mc .se 3. Various participants expressed concerns that since the EU were at the meeting and had made contact with the member state TLDs that non-EU TLDs were being excluded. Christopher Wilkinson stated that the EU/Commission wanted to start trying to coordinate member state TLDs but are willing to accept input from non-EU TLDs. Rob Blokzijl clarified RIPE's position by stating that the RIPE meeting and the TLD working group was there for the involvement of all TLDs within the RIPE geographic area and not just for those EU member state TLDs. This working group is for the benefit of the whole community and not just for a few countries. 4. Following discussion from among others Willie Black, Marcel Schneider,and Niall O'Reilly various points were highlighted that were thought worthy of attention by the working group. These points were: - - issues raised in OECD survey: -benchmark pricing -introduction of competition -harmonising of registration policies -cooperation between governments and registrars - - further issues identified by participants: -suitable legal jurisdictions for arbitration -funding of registries -the role of NSI in domain names -contractual issues -sharing of experiences -relationship with IANA -the development of gTLDs -focus of representation of TLDs to other organisations -the documentation of policies Marcel Schneider reminded people that things need to get going quickly if it is to have any input. This is especially true in the case of any IAHC issues that may arise. 5. Mike Norris asked whether the working group was there to discuss nTLD or gTLDmatters. Niall O'Reilly stated that any issue discussed should be relevant to the nTLDs but that since gTLD matters affect the nTLDs that they should in this context also be discussed. 7. Christopher Wilkinson gave a presentation on the EU Commission view of recent IAHC /gTLD developments and the points that they raise. His presentation points were as follows: - The Commission had a meeting with member state TLD administrators in Brussels in April. The aim was to discuss nTLD coordination and events surrounding the IAHC and its Mou regarding gTLDs. The outcome of the meeting was that the administrators said that RIPE was a suitable body to represent them and that the Commission should deal with RIPE. - Once the IAHC published the MoU the EU were asked to be a signatory. The EU declined since it was not in agreement with many items in the MoU. For example, The lottery for registries, the structure if iPOC nTLD members of CORE, the governance of IANA, and question marks about a solid legal base. - The Commisssion was surprised by the anouncement of a signing ceremony in Geneva. They did not sign since they needed more time and did not want to weaken their bargaining position by signing and MoU that they did not fully agree with. It was also noteworthy that neither the US government, the ITU, or any EU telcos signed. - They were also surprsied that after such publicity surrounding the signing of the MoU that almost straight after the Geneva meeting that a substantial amount of content was changed. The Commission although surprised were happy at the changes, especially the abandoning of the lottery system. - The commission still feels that the whole TLD issue is best left to industry self-regulation. - The newly formed iPOC is very similar is personalities to the IAHC. The new iPOC chair is David Maher. He will be going to Geneva on 29 May for a WIPO conference and afterwards is willing to Brussels for a meeting with the Commission about gTLDs. - The Commission wanted to see a stable global Internet industry that was protected from dispute. They felt that transition to this International structure would need co-ordination of the US government. - The OECD are reviewing the IAHC report.When asked by Rob Blokzijl who the EU commission were already in contact with besides the US government Christopher Wilkinson replied that they had had contact with Japan, but no other Asian countries. 8. Frode Greisen sees that conclusion to the present DNS problems is to recognise the involvement of the US government and leave it to them. He also thought that the present gTLD situation needed changing and that the IAHC although not ideal was a step in the right direction. Worries of his at the moment are the possible splitting of the Internet by organisations such as Alternic, and questions as to what happens when the NSI contract runs out next year. 9. Marcel Schneider and Willie Black responded to Frode Greisen by saying that it was imperative that the root domain should be in safe international hands. This should be IANA but the legal jurisdiction and authority chains from IANA to the nTLDs need to be clearer and legally recognisable. 10. In answer to the various points regarding IANA Joyce Reynolds made the following statements about IANA. - With regards to iPOC, IANA is sensitive about Europe being left out. IANA is looking for a European candidate to fill an iPOC seat. - The issue of control of the root zone is being discussed. - IANA wants to give no comment about any litigation with NSI. - At present IANA is under no litigation from any party. - - IANA does far more than just DNS, eg. protocol numbers,snmp, etc. - If people want to know the official IANA viewpoint about any issue then they should look at the IANA statements page. <http://www.iana.org/> There was unanimous agreement by the participants that RIPE should nominate a European candidate to fill an iPOC seat. 11. Daniel Karrenberg gave a presentation about the recent developments in the relationship between the regional registries and IANA. At the end of March the IANA funding from the US governement suddenly stopped with effect from 1 April 1997.This raised two issues: - Firstly IANA needed immediate funding so that it would be able to continue its activities which are vital for the running of the Internet as a whole. - Secondly the Regional registries saw this a golden opportunity to fund IANA themselves and thus bring into effect a true global bottom-up funding mechanism for IP numbers. IANA requested $50,000 from each of the existing regional registries for a 12 month period. AP-NIC agreed to fund $50,000, and the RIPE NCC agreed to fund $25,000 for a 6 month period during which it wanted IANA to have made progress towards a more structured organisational future. The Regional registries have thereby capitalised on both issues: the immediate future of the IANA activities is guaranteed and a basis has been set for a truely global bottom-up funding and policy forming Internet community. Daniel Karrenberg undertook to write a paper explaining the IANA situation in more detail and summarising the RIPE community's position on the matter. 12. There was overwhelming consensus that the actions of AP-NIC and RIPE NCC were correct and that this was an opportunity not to be missed. Many participants also stated that the future stability of IANA was vital for the whole Internet and that this should be guaranteed. Christopher Wilkinson agreed with this on behalf of the EU Commission. 13. >From futher points added by Ted Wolf and Niall O'Reilly a consensus was reached as 4 points that were vital for the future of IANA. They were: - IANA should be funded by the Regional Registries and a way shold be found for the nTLD to also give funding be that direct or indirectly. - IANA authority should come from bottom-up. - IANA should be protected from litigations - IANA needs to be recognised by official governmental bodies. 14. A large discussion evolved regarding why some parties did and why some parties did not sign the IAHC MoU. Those that did sign stated that they did so since they did not want to be excluded from the decision making processes and wanted to influence policies from within. They were alo generally under the impression that this was still an evolving document. Those that did not sign stated that the MoU did not indicate that it could be changed and in its present state they did not feel able to put their name to it. They would like to see the iPOC take advice from and involve those parties who have not yet signed the MoU in any further devlopemnts. A noteworthy contribution to the discussion was David Conrad's explanation of why AP-NIC signed.The AP-NIC members decided unamimously to sign the MoU. A large part of the IAHC was made up of AP-NIC members. The AP-NICis 'covering its bases' by signing, since it wants to be involved infuture developments and feels that this can be best acheived by being avoice on the inside rather than the outside. Marcel Schneider explained that Switch likewise saw a better opportunity for influence as an insider. In summary of the IAHC and the MoU the meeting consensus was that the RIPE community was too slow reacting to the IAHC initiative and that it should now actively get involved. 15. It was announced that a WIPO meeting would be held in Geneva during the week 25 May. This meetiing would discuss TLD issues, A meeting would also be held in Brussels on 27 May and would be hosted by the EU commission. The new chairman of iPOC David Maher would be present and Christopher Wilkinson invited RIPE to sent attendees. It was decided that Willie Black, and Marcel Schneider would represent the RIPE viewpoint. 16. Summary - A TLD working group should be formed. - The working group should address policy issues. - More nTLD coordination is needed. - The independence and stability of IANA is seen as vital. - The RIPE community should now get actively involved in TLD issues and not get left behind as in IAHC. 17. Actions - Niall O'Reilly, Willie Black, Lars-Johan Liman, Marcel Schneider to prepare terms of reference for new working group. - Willie Black and Marcel Schneider to attend Brussels meeting 27 May. - Daniel Karrenberg to write IANA future structure paper. - Niall O'Reilly to arrange a TLD working group mailing list. - RIPE to nominate European candidate to iPOC seat. List of Participants Using personal knowledge, I have tried to correct the spelling of names which became garbled in the transcription from what appeared on the manuscript attendance sheets. I may have missed some. In this case, please accept my apologies and let me have a correction. Don't be offended if you find some reference to "deutlich schreiben" or "EN MAJUSCULES" on the sheets at the next RIPE meeting. [NoR] Niall O'Reilly IE Domain Registry at UCD Christopher Wilkinson European Commission Daniel Karrenberg RIPE NCC Willie Black NOMINET UK Geoffrey Sisson NOMINET UK Chris Fletcher RIPE NCC Gerhard Winkler ACOnet AT Edouard Ouin NIC FRANCE Bernard Tuy CNRS / VREC Thomas Ohrisom UNINETT AS Thomas Weigel D.Tel.O GmbH Vittore Casarosa NIC-ITALY-CNR Sabine Dolderer DE-NIC Jan Hondebrink SARA Benjammin Zwittnig ARNES Frode Greisen Ebone Ole Kjaergaard UNi-c Pantus Freuman Pi.se AB Melvin Khoo AP-NIC Franco Guadagni CSELT-TELECOM ITALIA Paula Caslav RIPE NCC Karen Kranen RIPE NCC Marcel Schneider SWITCH Felix Kugler SWITCH Ole Bjorn Hessen Telenor Nextel Ole-Ivar Bakkene Telenor AS Balazs Martos Hungarnet Peter Lothberg roll(a)stupi.se / SWEDEN Oliver Doll od(a)Germany.EU.net /DE Verbaeten Pierre K U Leuven DNS.BE Tony Barber UUNET UK Nicolo Owg... INTERBUSINESS / TELECOM ITALIA Fboeriw Poppi INTERBUSINESS / TELECOM ITALIA Pettori Helin Clinet, Finland Fergal Suipeill UCD, IE Janos Zsako BankNet Janos Bajza Hungarnet Klara Rank pi.se AB K N Cvkier SWI Stephen Burley UUNET UK Daniel David IPF.NET GmbH Armando Domingues FCCN/RCCN William B Norton Merit Network Ruediger Volk Deutsche Telekom Dave Morton ECRC David Conrad AP-NIC Erik Sherk UUNET Keith Mitchell LINX (Nominet) Kyoko Day AP-NIC Mike Norris HEAnet Lars-johan Liman Ebone NOC Havard Eidnes UNINETT/NORDUnet Joyce K. Reynolds ISI Denesh Bhabuta Demon Internet Aude Vergult TRANSPAC Nathan Rapheld Netscape Miguel Sanz RedIRIS (ES-NIC) Sophie Laguna TNTERNET WAY Anne Lord UUNET UK Bettina Kenth DFN-NOC Niels den Otter SURFnet Paul Ridley RIPE NCC Jiri Orsag CZ-NIC Erik Lawaetz Ebone Peter Lerch Siemens, de Mark McFadden CIX Fancoyle Pugliese Telemitaua Nicolsrosgalba Interbusiness / TELEON ITDUD Ivan Sedinic HPT Peter Galbavy Demon Internet 70 participants

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db-wg mailinglist
by Roderik Muit 17 Jul '97

17 Jul '97

Dear RIPE members, On the 27th RIPE meeting in Dublin, a new RIPE Working Group for TLD related matters was set up. The RIPE NCC has created a mailinglist for this Working group, called tld-wg(a)ripe.net. (Actually this was done some time ago, but an announcement was never made here.) If you want to subscribe to this list, please mail to majordomo(a)ripe.net with 'subscribe tld-wg' (or 'help') in the message body. (Do *not* send subscription request to tld-wg(a)ripe.net please.) Regards, Roderik Muit RIPE NCC

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