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RIPE23: reminder
by RIPE NCC Staff 15 Jan '96

15 Jan '96

Dear people, This is a reminder that there will be a RIPE meeting soon. If you have missed the previous announcement and want to attend: please do not forget to register. You can find all relevant information at: ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/Next-Meeting/ All further (and previous) discussion on the meeting will be held on the 'ripe-list' mailinglist. To subscribe, please send mail to <majordomo(a)ripe.net> with 'subscribe ripe-list' in the message body. The mailing list archives can be found at ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/archives/ripe-list/ Appended below is the original announcement for the meeting, but without all the other documents that were appended. ------ R I P E meeting announcement ============================ (This announcement can also be viewed using "finger meeting(a)ncc.ripe.net") This is to announce that the 23rd RIPE meeting will take place: Dates: 29th January, 1996 start: 10:00 (*) 30th January, 1996 31st January, 1996 end: 15:30 (*) * times subject to change (may vary +/- 1 hour). For exact times, look at ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/Next-Meeting/announcement shortly before the meeting Venue: CWI Kruislaan 413 1098 SJ Amsterdam The Netherlands Host: NIKHEF Registration: Please use the registration form (which will follow in a separate mail) to give notice of your coming as soon as possible. General meeting overview: ------------------------- - Before the working group meetings, on Monday 29th, there will be an EOF (European Operators Forum) meeting. The exact starting time will probably be known shortly before the RIPE meeting. It will end 12:30. - Monday 29th, 14:00-18:00 and Tuesday 30th, 09:00-12:30, there will be various RIPE working groups sessions. The schedule of the previous meeting follows below for reference; the schedule of this meeting is not known yet. - Tuesday 30th, 14:00-18:00 and Wednesday 31st, 09:00-15:30 (*), the plenary session will take place, with reports from the RIPE NCC, reports from the working group meetings and other presentations. General information: -------------------- Currency (checked 18 December 1995): 1 UK pound = Hfl 2.5 1 ECU = Hfl 2.1 1 US$ = Hfl 1.6 More information about Amsterdam: --------------------------------- Websurfers may take a look at: <> http://www.xxlink.nl/cities/amsterdam <> http://www.channels.nl/ Appended to this announcement: ------------------------------ <> directions to the meeting place Documents to follow (separate mail messages): --------------------------------------------- <> details of hotels in Amsterdam close to meeting venue <> registration form for attendance at the meeting <> getting visa for the meeting, if you need one ==================================================================

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by hidalgo＠unitru.edu.pe 12 Jan '96

12 Jan '96

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RIPE23: outstanding action items
by Roderik Muit 12 Jan '96

12 Jan '96

Dear RIPE interested people, With the 23rd RIPE meeting in sight, it is time to take a look at the outstanding action items again... They follow below. (By the way, a first draft of the RIPE22 minutes is due to come out soon...) Kind regards, Roderik Muit RIPE NCC Action 19.12 on Marten Terpstra (to be taken over by NCC) To write up the proposed "stored"/"processed" attribute. Action 20.5 on Daniel Karrenberg To draft outline "applications document" to support the proposed plan on how to deal with address space requests from VSE's Action 20.14 on Milan Sterba To update the Connectivity Document Store home page Action 20.22 on Francis Dupont To send a pointer to PIM for BSD 4.4 as soon as it is available Action 20.24 on Daniele Bovio To set up the matrix to keep track of the RIPE meeting actions Action 21.2 on Daniel Karrenberg To put billing information in the database. Action 21.3 on Daniel Karrenberg, Mike Norris To draft a recommendation on charging by local IRs until September Action 21.9 on Erik-Jan Bos (Wilfried Woeber) To update the proposal "A Multicast Router in the Routing Registry" Action 21.10 on Erik-Jan Bos To get in contact with Victor Reijs for a tuto- rial on "IGMP over ATM" and the Terena/ATM-TF Action 22.1 on Mike Norris and RIPE NCC To find volunteers from the Local IR working group to continue working on the revision of ripe-104++ without waiting for the publication of rfc1466++. Action 22.2 on Antonio-Blasco Bonito To send a letter to the ISC to ask to put BIND 4.9.3 in final so that doubts about it are solved. Action 22.3 on Geert Jan de Groot To recommend to the Internic not to accept unnecessary glue records and to double checks any change to existing glue records Action 22.4 on Antonio-Blasco Bonito To ask A. Romao to include a recommendation on regularly checking zones into RFC1713, Action 22.5 on RIPE NCC To include some authentication mechanism into the automatic reverse delegation process. Action 22.6 on Benoit Grange To make the sources of the ZoneCheck tool freely available by the end of 1995 Action 22.7 on Guy Davies To organise the TLD questionnaire, submit it to the list for review and later send it to the European TLD admins. Action 22.8 on RIPE NCC/Merit To make the RADB publicly available on the the RIPE FTP server (if Merit concords) Action 22.9 on RIPE NCC/ANS To find a final date when to give up advisory tags. Action 22.10 on Daniel Karrenberg To trigger the discussion on the mailing list of the Routing WG, which focus to choose for a future tool development project and to come to consensus on it. Action 22.11 on Daniel Karrenberg Based upon the focus found in the Routing WG to prepare a draft paper for the new project and to present it at the next RIPE meeting in Jan- uary. Action 22.12 on David Kessens To work with A. Blasco Bonito to improve the WAIS functionality for access to the database information on info.ripe.net. Action 22.13 on Geert-Jan de Groot To try to follow up with the InterNIC about accepting person objects with RIPE-Handles. Action 22.14 on RIPE NCC To circulate a proposal how to progress the authentication (and encryption) method for the RIPE Database. Action 22.15 on RIPE NCC To analyze the merits of implementing special keywords for the subject line of update mes- sages, like ADD, MOD, DELETE, to possibly replace the functionality of special mailbox names (e.g. auto-assign). Action 22.16 on RIPE NCC To follow up on and implement the NOC-Object. Action 22.17 on David Kessens To add the advisory attribute to the AS tem- plate in the database software and change the documentation accordingly ____________________________________________________

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RIPE23: announcement
by Ndeh_Ningo＠camfido.gn.apc.org 10 Jan '96

10 Jan '96

Hi Ndeh, In a message of <Tue 19 Dec 95 14:53>, Dr. Jrgen Rauschenbach (jrau(a)dfn.de) wrote to you: DJR> * Original TO: Ndeh Ningo of 5:7751/1 DJR> * ReDirected by ReDirect v1.10 by David Nugent DJR> Hi Ndeh, DJR> did you receive the announcements of the RIPE 23 (if your suscription DJR> has been succesfull you should ;-) ? DJR> If not I can forward the other information about it. It is the RIPE 24 DJR> we spoke about next April in Berlin, but maybe you can make it to the DJR> 23rd already. DJR> Best wishes for 1996! DJR> Juergen DJR> -=--- Begin Included Message ----- DJR> Subject: RIPE23: announcement DJR> X-Organization: RIPE Network Coordination Centre DJR> X-Phone: +31 20 592 5065 DJR> X-Fax: +31 20 592 5090 DJR> Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 15:53:36 +0100 DJR> Content-Length: 6421 DJR> R I P E meeting announcement DJR> ============================ DJR> (This announcement can also be viewed using "finger DJR> This is to announce that the 23rd RIPE meeting will take place: DJR> Dates: 29th January, 1996 start: 10:00 (*) DJR> 30th January, 1996 DJR> 31st January, 1996 end: 15:30 (*) DJR> * times subject to change (may vary +/- 1 hour). For exact times, look at DJR> ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/Next-Meeting/announcement shortly before the DJR> meeting DJR> Venue: CWI DJR> Kruislaan 413 DJR> 1098 SJ Amsterdam DJR> The Netherlands DJR> Host: NIKHEF DJR> Registration: Please use the registration form (which will DJR> follow DJR> in a separate mail) to give notice of your DJR> coming as soon as possible. DJR> General meeting overview: DJR> ------------------------- DJR> - Before the working group meetings, on Wednesday 29th, there DJR> will be an EOF (European Operators Forum) meeting. The exact DJR> starting time will probably be known shortly before the RIPE DJR> meeting. It will end 12:30. DJR> - Wednesday 29th, 14:00-18:00 and Thursday 30th, 09:00-12:30, DJR> there will be various RIPE working groups sessions. The schedule DJR> of the previous meeting follows below for reference; the DJR> schedule of this meeting is not known yet. DJR> - Thursday 30th, 14:00-18:00 and Friday 31st, 09:00-15:30 (*), DJR> the plenary session will take place, with reports from DJR> the RIPE NCC, reports from the working group meetings and DJR> other presentations. DJR> General information: DJR> -------------------- DJR> Currency (checked 18 December 1995): 1 UK pound = Hfl 2.5 DJR> 1 ECU = Hfl 2.1 DJR> 1 US$ = Hfl 1.6 DJR> More information about Amsterdam: DJR> --------------------------------- DJR> Websurfers may take a look at: DJR> <> http://www.xxlink.nl/cities/amsterdam DJR> <> http://pmwww.cs.vu.nl/amsterdam/index.html DJR> Appended to this announcement: DJR> ------------------------------ DJR> <> directions to the meeting place DJR> Documents to follow (separate mail messages): DJR> --------------------------------------------- DJR> <> details of hotels in Amsterdam close to meeting venue DJR> <> registration form for attendance at the meeting DJR> <> getting visa for the meeting, if you need one DJR> ================================================================== DJR> CWI: How do I get there? DJR> -=----------------------- DJR> To ease any possible confusion, two postscript maps can be found in the DJR> RIPE document store. One shows the bus and tram stops around the meeting DJR> site and the other is a more general map of the area. Both maps are DJR> available by ftp: DJR> ftp.ripe.net:ripe/Next-Meeting/area-map.ps DJR> ftp.ripe.net:ripe/Next-Meeting/area-map.ps.Z DJR> ftp.ripe.net:ripe/Next-Meeting/local-transport-map.ps DJR> ftp.ripe.net:ripe/Next-Meeting/local-transport-map.ps.Z DJR> *PLEASE NOTE: The number 69 and 169 now end at Amstel station rather DJR> than Muiderpoort station. The number 15 now connects the Amstel station DJR> with DJR> Muiderpoort station. NN>From Amsterdam airport (Schiphol): DJR> o Take the train from the airport railway station to the Central DJR> Railway station. NN>From the Central Railway station: DJR> o Change to the stop train to Utrecht, to Amersfoort, or to DJR> Lelystad. DJR> Next station is the 'Muiderpoort' railway station. DJR> or DJR> o Take tramway number 9 till the stop at the corner of Middenweg DJR> and Kruislaan (15 min ride) DJR> o Walk down the Kruislaan in the direction of the railway bridge. DJR> Cross under the bridge and continue. Take the 2nd entrance left DJR> and proceed to the entrance marked NIKHEF-H. (15 min walk all DJR> together). DJR> or DJR> o Take bus 22 in the direction 'Indische Buurt' to the stop at DJR> the 'Muiderpoort Station' and take bus 66. NN>From the RAI Railway station: DJR> o From the RAI station take the city bus number 69 or CN bus DJR> number 169 in the direction `Amstel Station'. NN>From the Amstel Railway station: DJR> o From the Amstel station take the city bus number 15 DJR> the direction `Muiderpoort Station' to the stop on DJR> the corner of Kruislaan and Linnaeusparkweg (15 min ride, ask DJR> the driver where to get of) or proceed to 'Muiderpoort Station' DJR> and take bus 66. DJR> o Walk down the Kruislaan in the direction of the railway bridge DJR> as described above. NN>From the Muiderpoort Railway station: DJR> o Take bus 66 (5-10 minutes ride). DJR> At the exit of the railway station turn to the left, DJR> pass through the tunnel, cross the tram rails and the DJR> street running parallel to the railway. The stop for bus 66 DJR> is at your left hand (right side of the broad street). The bus DJR> passes twice broad railway bridges. Get off at the second stop DJR> after DJR> the second passage, pass through the gate at the left, DJR> follow the road passing under the building, then turn to the DJR> left, where you will find the main entrance of NIKHEF-H. DJR> Taxi from the airport: DJR> o 15 min ride DJR> o fl. 50 appr. DJR> Other connections to and from the NIKHEF site: DJR> tram 6 from Leidseplein DJR> tram 10 to Leidseplein DJR> tram 14 to and from Dam Square DJR> bus 66 to and from Muiderpoortstation DJR> Timetable bus 66 NN>From Muiderpoortstation (Monday - Friday): DJR> 7.00 7.15 7.30 7.45 8.00 8.15 8.30 8.45 9.00 9.15 9.30 DJR> 10.00 10.30 11.00 11.30 12.00 12.30 13.00 13.30 14.00 14.30 15.00 15.30 DJR> 15.45 16.00 16.15 16.30 16.45 17.00 17.15 17.30 17.45 18.00 NN>From NIKHEF to Muiderpoortstation (Monday - Friday): DJR> 7.08 7.23 7.38 7.53 8.08 8.23 8.38 8.53 9.08 9.23 9.38 DJR> 10.08 10.38 11.08 11.38 12.08 12.38 13.08 13.38 14.08 14.38 23.08 23.38 DJR> 23.53 16.08 16.23 16.38 16.53 17.08 17.23 17.38 17.53 18.08 DJR> Bus 66 is operated in conjunction with bus 61. DJR> Therefore the bus does not always show the correct linenumber. DJR> In case of doubt ask the driver or your fellow-passengers. DJR> -=--- End Included Message ----- DJR> ^Via from deneb.dfn.de by gn.apc.org (4.1/Revision: 1.31 ) id DJR> AA05369; Wed, 3 Jan 96 17:03:32 GMT DJR> ^Via from fomalhaut (fomalhaut.dfn.de) by deneb.dfn.de (4.1/SMI-4.2) DJR> id AA16002; Wed, 3 Jan 96 18:03:11 +0100 Bye, Ndeh.

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Re: hotels
by Roderik Muit 08 Jan '96

08 Jan '96

randy(a)psg.com (Randy Bush) writes: * >> Please check the following reference from the hotels list you give in * >> ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/Next-Meeting/hotels * >> - for more information, look at http://www.nbt.nl/holland/hotels/ho-p24.h * tm * >> I suspect that those hotels are nice, but a bit distant from the meeting. * * Sorry. I was being too dry. That URL is for hotels in Ameland Nes. Oops. It appears this website re-paginates every now and again, which means that Amsterdam has moved from ho-p24.htm to ho-p28.htm. The best way to start is probably http://www.nbt.nl/holland/hotels/ho-pa Geert Jan de Groot <GeertJan.deGroot(a)ripe.net> writes: * Note that some of the hotels have special rates for the meeting * as far as I know - Roderik, what is the current setup? As can be found in ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/Next-Meeting/hotels: Karena Hotels Group (all centrally located) ------------------- Doelen ) Caransa ) -- Central Reservation number 626 2922 626 6831 Rembrandt ) Schiller ) If RIPE people want to benefit from the cheap rate of NLG 170 at any of those four hotels, then they have to ask the TERENA Secretariat to make the reservation for them. The TERENA secretariat is reachable at : E-mail: secretariat(a)terena.nl tel: +31206391131

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Hostcount for December 1995
by Mirjam Kuehne 04 Jan '96

04 Jan '96

Dear all, Please find below the last hostcount for 1995. The table shows an increase since November of almost 200,000 (or 10.0%) to a total of over 2,200,000 hosts in the DNS in Europe. We have not only hit but hurtled past the 2 Million boundary :-) We have a new champion: FI shows the highest increase with over 70,000 hosts more than in November. Certain zones this time have shown a decline in numbers were previously their numbers were seen to increase. This could be due to server neglect :) over Christmas. The hostcount can also be found under ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/hostcount/ The graphical version of the hostcount can be found at ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/hostcount/RIPE-Hostcount-{Mo,Qu}.eps The translation of the country codes can be found at ftp://ftp.ripe.net/iso3166-countrycodes I would like to thank all people who help me to create the hostcount every month by counting hosts locally: at Gerhard Winkler <Gerhard.Winkler(a)univie.ac.at> be Herman Moons <Herman.Moons(a)CS.kuleuven.ac.be> ch Christoph Graf <graf(a)chx400.switch.ch> cy Panagiotis Tzounakis <pj(a)ics.forth.gr> cz Jiri Orsag <Jiri.Orsag(a)eunet.cz> de Peter Koch <pk(a)TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE> dk Robert Martin-Legene <robert(a)dknet.dk> es Jose Sanchez-Seco <jose.sanchez(a)rediris.es> fi Petri Ojala <ojala(a)eunet.fi> fr Benoit Grange <grange(a)sagres.inria.fr> gr Dimitris Zisiadis <zisiadis(a)forthnet.gr> hr Ivan Maric <Ivan.Maric(a)stribor.srce.hr> ie Mike Norris <mnorris(a)dalkey.hea.ie> il Sason Levi <sason(a)NetVision.net.il> it Antonio_Blasco Bonito <bonito(a)nis.garr.it> no Havard Eidnes <Havard.Eidnes(a)runit.sintef.no> pt Graca Carvalho <fccn(a)dns.pt> ru Andrey Dobrotsvetov <adbr(a)argo.net.kiae.su> sk Ivan Lescak <Ivan.Lescak(a)Slovakia.EU.net> Lubos Elias <Lubos.Elias(a)uakom.sk> tr Yener Yigit <yener(a)knidos.cc.metu.edu.tr> uk JANET NOSC <nosc(a)nosc.ja.net> If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Kind regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC RIPE DNS Hostcount Previous Count : Thu Nov 30 1995 This Count : Sun Dec 31 1995 CY SOA COUNTED DUPL REAL CHANGE ============================================================ al 5 35 0 35 + 34 am 6 178 5 173 + 130 at 1169 55445 2101 53344 - 799 az 3 16 0 16 + 1 be 1209 31505 884 30621 + 2185 bg 63 1119 64 1055 + 182 by 5 18 1 17 0 ch 1281 81590 1456 80134 + 302 cy 33 401 11 390 - 5 cz 403 22232 376 21856 + 1029 de 6091 494518 20143 474375 +63627 dk 838 51482 925 50557 + 481 dz 2 16 0 16 0 ee 164 3630 52 3578 - 73 eg 8 566 5 561 - 101 es 1180 52301 845 51456 - 751 fi 1360 219468 3764 215704 +70435 fo 16 527 0 527 + 58 fr 2355 154295 3122 151173 +15992 gb 1 36 0 36 + 1 ge 10 57 0 57 + 4 gr 380 8262 521 7741 + 797 hr 124 3041 580 2461 + 138 hu 223 16078 286 15792 + 729 ie 188 13556 121 13435 - 303 il 619 28646 1033 27613 + 3287 is 146 8390 80 8310 + 252 it 2567 79956 4580 75376 + 7563 li 20 72 4 68 + 1 lt 44 462 4 458 + 82 lu 89 1909 29 1880 - 104 lv 47 1351 30 1321 + 85 ma 2 229 0 229 + 30 md 8 0 0 - - 10 mk 12 108 18 90 + 1 mt 11 98 12 86 + 10 nl 1702 175523 3758 171765 + 5728 no 1835 87543 3249 84294 + 3926 pl 772 24821 1737 23084 + 1215 pt 376 12818 1042 11776 + 548 ro 141 1789 50 1739 + 486 ru 513 12318 897 11421 + 2476 se 2721 149981 5137 144844 + 5016 si 199 5844 229 5615 + 646 sk 125 3104 113 2991 + 106 su 412 11008 489 10519 + 444 tn 3 83 4 79 + 2 tr 170 5645 96 5549 + 318 ua 165 2909 500 2409 + 580 uk 9165 478810 39078 439732 +12637 va 1 2 0 2 + 1 yu 3 0 0 0 0 ============================================================ 38977 2303791 97431 2206360 +199419

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RIPE22: Draft Minutes available: ripe-m-22
by RIPE NCC 22 Dec '95

22 Dec '95

RIPE Minutes Announcement ------------------------- The RIPE22 minutes are now available from the RIPE document store : FTP Access ---------- All RIPE minutes (and more) are available via anonymous FTP from host ftp.ripe.net. Type "ftp ftp.ripe.net". Login with username "anonymous" supplying your email address as the password. After logging in, type "cd ripe/minutes/" followed by the command "get filename". The relevant filenames for this document are: ripe-m-22.txt for the ASCII version ripe-m-22.ps for the PostScript version Electronic Mail Retrieval of Documents -------------------------------------- Documents can also be retrieved from the RIPE document store using a mail server program. For more information on how to use the program, send email to: mail-server(a)ripe.net with "send HELP" in the body text. RIPE NCC Interactive Information Server --------------------------------------- Type "telnet info.ripe.net". This is a menu driven service allows the document store to be browsed. After reading documents you are prompted as to whether you would like to receive an email copy of the document you have just read. If you would, you simply enter your email address and the document will be mailed to you. Below are details of alternative methods of access. Gopher Access ------------- The same documents are available via a "gopher" server at "gopher gopher.ripe.net". WWW Access ---------- For those who wish to add this home page at the RIPE NCC to their own customized home pages, it can be accessed as: http://www.ripe.net MIME Mail Reader ---------------- Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant Mail Reader implementation to automatically retrieve the RIPE document by FTP or mail server. SEND ripe/minutes/ripe-m-22.txt

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Re: RIPE23
by RIPE NCC Staff 20 Dec '95

20 Dec '95

John Murray <John.Murray(a)pla.net.uk> writes: * * Hi, * * I'm a little confused as to when the RIPE23 is taking place. * * In ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/Next-Meeting/announcement you say October '96 * * and in your mail to the ripe-list said January '96 29th-31st but then * say Wednesday to Friday, in my calender this is Monday to Wednesday. * * Please help. I won't even bother to explain all these mistakes. I'm just very sorry. The final answer: the meeting is MONDAY 29th until WEDNESDAY 31rd. --Roderik.

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RIPE23: hotels
by RIPE NCC Staff 20 Dec '95

20 Dec '95

Hotel information Rooms have to be reserved by the participants themselves. Below you find a list of hotels you can contact to find a room. You can also: - for more information, look at http://www.nbt.nl/holland/hotels/ho-p24.htm - contact: National Reservations Centre P.O. Box 404 NL-2260 AK LEIDSCHENDAM tel. +31 70 320 2500 fax +31 70 320 2611 -------------- <> All phone numbers below require the prefix 31 20 <quoted number>. <> All tram connections are from central station. <> Data are subject to change, please check first Low budget hotels (price range 90-120 Hfl): Name Adress Phone Fax Tram Internationaal Centrum Linnaeusstraat 2 6925111 9 Barbacan Plantage Muidergracht 89 6236241 6272041 9 Lancaster Plantage Middenlaan 48 6266544 6226628 9 Somewhat more expensive but located near the Central Railway Station (price range 185-210 Hfl): Hotel Ibis Stationsplein 49 6383080 6200156 Recommended by Chris Jones: Mercure Arthur Frommer Noorderstraat 46 6220328 6203208 16/24/25 The following hotels can be booked at: AMS Booking Center P.O.Box 60011 1005 GA Amsterdam The Netherlands phone: 6831811 fax: 6160320 telex: 14275 single/ Phone Fax Tram double Museum *** 170/244 P.C. Hooftstraat 2 6621402 6733918 5 Trianon *** 170/244 J.W. Brouwerstraat 3-7 6732073 6738868 16 Terdam *** 170/244 Tesselschadestraat 23 6126876 6838313 5 Holland *** 170/244 P.C. Hooftstraat 162 6764253 6765956 5 Beethoven **** 190/280 Beethovenstraat 43 6644816 6621240 24 Lairesse **** 240/280 De Lairessestraat 5-7 6719596 6711756 16 Karena Hotels Group (all centrally located) ------------------- Doelen ) Caransa ) -- Central Reservation number 626 2922 626 6831 Rembrandt ) Schiller ) If RIPE people want to benefit from the cheap rate of NLG 170 at any of those four hotels, then they have to ask the TERENA Secretariat to make the reservation for them. The TERENA secretariat is reachable at : E-mail: secretariat(a)terena.nl tel: +31206391131

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CORRECTED: RIPE23: visa
by RIPE NCC Staff 19 Dec '95

19 Dec '95

AAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!!!! 'Italy' should have been 'the Netherlands', ofcourse... ---------- Dear RIPE meeting attendees, This letter is intended for all of you who need a visa to come to the Netherlands for the 23rd RIPE meeting. Since getting visas takes generally more time then one expects I would suggest you apply for a visa as fast as possible. On request, we can send you an invitation. If you want us to send an invitation, please tell us how many days and which days you are planning to stay. If, after the RIPE meeting, you want to stay some additional days we can invite you for some 'technical meetings' after the RIPE meeting (wink wink ;-). Furthermore, please give also your full name, birth date and passport number. If we mention these data in our invitation to you, it could facilitate getting visa. If you have any further questions, don't hesitate to contact us, preferrably at <ncc(a)ripe.net>.

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