On 15.10.2012 11:17, Olaf Kolkman wrote:
On Sep 28, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Ondrej Filip <ondrej.filip@NIC.CZ <mailto:ondrej.filip@NIC.CZ>> wrote:
We do want to limit the coverage on projects related and of interest to the RIPE community. Example of Open Source projects which we believe are a good fit for the group are Routing products like Bird, Quagga, OpenBGPd, XORP and other projects relevant to the community like DHCP, Network Management tools like RRDtool, Ntop or Nagios.
I have two questions:
1. Are you consciously not mentioning DNS software? Do you expect DNS Open Source discussions to remain in the DNS WG? I think clarity is needed to avoid duplication.
Hi Olaf, very good question, thank you for that. I do not have a simple answer. At the beginning we were thinking specifically about open source routing software and later on we extended this idea to open source software relevant to the RIPE community. And of course, the overlap with DNS WG is pretty obvious. I would be happy this new WG to cover also DNS related topic, but DNS WG charter says - "The working group discusses DNS software implementations, especially security and scalability aspects as well as performance and interoperability considerations. " So to avoid the confusion we can explicitly exclude DNS software. But perhaps the best way is to start a discussion in dns-gw list. Any suggestions?
2. There might be vendors that do not provide open-source but do have a genuine interest in understanding the needs of the community and would like to work with the community; are those welcome? There are probably also Open Source developers that need to run a business and use this as a marketing event. I understand you wouldn't want that (at least I don't) but how can you make the distinction? A paragraph about what this WG should not be might clarify.
That are actually two questions. First - We did not expect to allow presentation of commercial vendors as those people have usually their ways how to get feedback or communicate with their customers. And second - So, are you suggesting we should extend the WG charter by adding one more paragraph explaining that presentation shared during this WG should not support commercial interests of those open source vendors? I do not object. Ondrej
In general I like the idea.
Thank you!
--Olaf
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