Hi Andy and list, Andy Davidson <andy@nosignal.org> writes:
HPH wrote:
I do want to acknowledge that concerns were raised quite late in the process about the potential for capture or influence by the RIPE NCC. [...] Funny definition of 'potential'!
Andy, if I take this literally, you are claiming that the NCC *were* capturing or influcencing the process. If you actually mean that, then I really want to see you substantiate that claim. If not, then please explain what you actually do mean by this. If however this is some sort of empty belligerent rhetorics (in lack of a better English word), then I kindly ask you to stop it---this is neither a debating club arguing about what end to crack open a boiled egg nor a game of Nomic. Considering how this entire chair selection run developed I am still surprised that insinuations like yours haven't driven people to stepping down from the various roles involved. We were close enough to this happening, which would have been quite detrimental to the RIPE community and its mission on behalf of society in general. What damage *has* happened however was that we've had the NomCom follow the defined and agreed-upon process to the letter, rather than making it their top priority to get the best possible result and in a timely manner. These debates slowed the entire process down significantly and caused a number of people serious extra work. It also caused a number of people some tremendous frustration, which in turn cost the community as a whole some significant part of its cumulative goodwill and enthusiasm. Additionally, there is a fair risk that political organizations outside the community may still leverage the way how this affair turned out as an indication that the community can't be trusted with the management of resources critical to the world at large and as such control over it should be transferred e.g. to the UN, ITU, ITU-T, some national government agencies or whatever. I'd rather not see that happen. Cheers, Benedikt [Assorted thanks and congratulations removed as they add nothing new to the discusssion. Next RIPE meeting we meet in person I'll get the culprits a beer instead:-)] -- Benedikt Stockebrand, Stepladder IT Training+Consulting Dipl.-Inform. http://www.stepladder-it.com/ Business Grade IPv6 --- Consulting, Training, Projects BIVBlog---Benedikt's IT Video Blog: http://www.stepladder-it.com/bivblog/