Hi Filiz,

On 15/01/14 17:28, Filiz Yilmaz wrote:

Dear colleagues,

As the RIPE Programme Committee, we have done some house-keeping recently and updated our charter. 

The most prominent parts of the update are for the reflection of a previous change in the size of the membership of the Committee (from 8 to 12 seats) and for the documentation of the possibility of removal of a PC member based on unanimous vote, following Committee's decision at RIPE 67. 

Just to document the changes, I see there's a third difference, which you do not mention, between the two documents.
"The PC members also select up to two Vice Chairs who aid the Chair as necessary."

further, the responsibilities of the Vice Chairs are:
"The Vice Chairs will work towards to ensuring active participation of PC members."

I also see that the PC has already selected the Vice Chairs, basically accepting the changes to the Charter before any feedback could be offered.

Isn't active participation of all the PC members the main responsibility of all it's members? Will the Vice Chairs have any other responsibilities in the future RIPE Meetings?
Further updates were for wording improvements towards better readability. 

The updated draft document is at: 
https://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-600

and is to replace:
https://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-531
ripe-531 has already been marked as obsolete.

"This document is obsoleted by ripe-600"
We will ask the RIPE NCC to publish the updated draft document as a final RIPE Document on 5 February 2014. 
Until then, please let us know if you have any comments.
It's already published as a RIPE document and AFAIK any further comments would require a new RIPE document to be created. Not that I have any comments to the changes you guys have decided, it is up to the PC how it organizes it's activity.. I am commenting on the way you request the comments on the changes made to the charter.

You are requesting feedback on some changes that have already been documented, approved by the PC (which has already chosen it's Vice Chairs) and published in ripe-600 (thus rendering any comments useless).
Kind regards
Filiz Yilmaz, Shane Kerr & Benno Overeinder
PC Chair and Vice Chairs
cheers,
elvis