I have been listening to the discussion on the European CERT Coordination. I believe in the following: - Any service provider is free to and should be encouraged to organize a CERT to serve its customers. - A European CERT Coordination activity depends on being trusted both on technical and commercial aspects by the organizations depending on it. To me this makes it impossible for a service provider to coordinate CERTs in competing service providers. - The European CERT CC need to be organized and done on "neutral" ground. - Therefore I support the ConCERT-in-E proposal. - I see that TERENA by many (hopefully all) and even by commercial organizations is regarded as such a neutral ground. - The RIPE NCC is also doing work where neutrality and trust is important. The high standard of quality and neutrality has made that sensitive activity accepted everywhere. - It is my firm belief that the European CERT CC in order to be successful should be organized in a similar way together with or close to the RIPE NCC to assure the same qualities. Sven Tafvelin