Endorsement of Afrinic board candidates
Hi RIPE ASO/AC delegates, I just read the following on the Afrinic community mailing list, and got a bit concerned:
My name is Wafa Dahmani from Tunisia, an active member of the African community and more specifically AFRINIC: member of the appeal committee; ASO / AC excom member and Ex Chair of Governance Committee '(GC) at AFRINIC. I contact you to solicit your votes for the following candidates:
[etc]
While she doesn't explicitly state that she is soliciting votes on behalf of the ASO/AC, it does seem to imply it. I found it hard to believe that the ASO/AC would agree with this statement as sent by Wafa. I know questions about this have already been sent to the ASO/AC, but I would like some feedback from our own delegates. I wonder whether you were aware of this and what your positions on this are. I suspect that this was not something agreed to by the ASO/AC, or at least not by our own delegates, but I would like that confirmed please :) I though long whether to cross-post this to the ripe-list and in the end decided that I should, for transparency's and accountability's sake. Cheers, Sander
I was shocked when I saw the email in the Afrinic list. For reference: https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2019-July/003140.html I will say even more. There is an explicit code of conduct for the members? There is a way for an ASO-AC member to be displaced? Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 3/7/19 15:14, "ripe-list en nombre de Sander Steffann" <ripe-list-bounces@ripe.net en nombre de sander@steffann.nl> escribió: Hi RIPE ASO/AC delegates, I just read the following on the Afrinic community mailing list, and got a bit concerned: > My name is Wafa Dahmani from Tunisia, an active member of the African community and more specifically AFRINIC: member of the appeal committee; ASO / AC excom member and Ex Chair of Governance Committee '(GC) at AFRINIC. > I contact you to solicit your votes for the following candidates: > [etc] While she doesn't explicitly state that she is soliciting votes on behalf of the ASO/AC, it does seem to imply it. I found it hard to believe that the ASO/AC would agree with this statement as sent by Wafa. I know questions about this have already been sent to the ASO/AC, but I would like some feedback from our own delegates. I wonder whether you were aware of this and what your positions on this are. I suspect that this was not something agreed to by the ASO/AC, or at least not by our own delegates, but I would like that confirmed please :) I though long whether to cross-post this to the ripe-list and in the end decided that I should, for transparency's and accountability's sake. Cheers, Sander ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it.
Hi Jordi,
I was shocked when I saw the email in the Afrinic list. For reference: https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2019-July/003140.html
I will say even more.
There is an explicit code of conduct for the members?
There is a way for an ASO-AC member to be displaced?
Wafa sits on the seat appointed by the Afrinic board. Replacing her is none of the RIPE community's business. We have to respect another RIR's choices. Cheers, Sander
I know, but my question is to the ASO-AC itself. Do they have a code of conduct? Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 3/7/19 17:11, "Sander Steffann" <sander@steffann.nl> escribió: Hi Jordi, > I was shocked when I saw the email in the Afrinic list. For reference: > https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2019-July/003140.html > > I will say even more. > > There is an explicit code of conduct for the members? > > There is a way for an ASO-AC member to be displaced? Wafa sits on the seat appointed by the Afrinic board. Replacing her is none of the RIPE community's business. We have to respect another RIR's choices. Cheers, Sander ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it.
On 3 Jul 2019, at 16:12, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ripe-list <ripe-list@ripe.net> wrote:
I know, but my question is to the ASO-AC itself. Do they have a code of conduct?
Why didn’t you ask them instead of ripe-list?
Hi Jim, Transparency: Because the original email was sent to that list, and because I think is right to ask publicly our ASO-AC representatives. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 3/7/19 17:14, "ripe-list en nombre de Jim Reid" <ripe-list-bounces@ripe.net en nombre de jim@rfc1035.com> escribió: > On 3 Jul 2019, at 16:12, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ripe-list <ripe-list@ripe.net> wrote: > > I know, but my question is to the ASO-AC itself. Do they have a code of conduct? Why didn’t you ask them instead of ripe-list? ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it.
Hi Jordi,
I know, but my question is to the ASO-AC itself. Do they have a code of conduct?
Ripe list is probably the wrong place for that question. I think you should contact the ASO/AC directly. Cheers, Sander
Hello Sander and ripe-list, ASO AC (Address Supporting Organization Address Council) as a collective has a defined scope. Our responsibilities are limited to: 1. Undertaking a role in the global policy development process. 2. Defining procedures for the selection of individuals to serve on other ICANN bodies, in particular on the ICANN Board, and implementing any roles assigned to the AC in such procedures. The ASO AC selects ICANN Board seats 9 and 10. 3. Providing advice to the ICANN Board on number resource allocation policy, in conjunction with the RIRs. Information about ASO AC can be found at https://aso.icann.org/ Wafa Dahmani is indeed a member of the current ASO AC from AfriNIC region, appointed by the AfriNIC Board. We can confirm that she has sent this mail in her individual capacity and her mail does not reflect any ASO AC views as a collective. Since your mail to the ripe-list, she has sent a follow-up mail to the AfriNIC Mailing list acknowledging this herself too. Kind regards, Filiz Yilmaz, Hervé Clément, Nurani Nimpuno On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 3:13 PM Sander Steffann <sander@steffann.nl> wrote:
Hi RIPE ASO/AC delegates,
I just read the following on the Afrinic community mailing list, and got a bit concerned:
My name is Wafa Dahmani from Tunisia, an active member of the African community and more specifically AFRINIC: member of the appeal committee; ASO / AC excom member and Ex Chair of Governance Committee '(GC) at AFRINIC. I contact you to solicit your votes for the following candidates:
[etc]
While she doesn't explicitly state that she is soliciting votes on behalf of the ASO/AC, it does seem to imply it.
I found it hard to believe that the ASO/AC would agree with this statement as sent by Wafa. I know questions about this have already been sent to the ASO/AC, but I would like some feedback from our own delegates. I wonder whether you were aware of this and what your positions on this are. I suspect that this was not something agreed to by the ASO/AC, or at least not by our own delegates, but I would like that confirmed please :)
I though long whether to cross-post this to the ripe-list and in the end decided that I should, for transparency's and accountability's sake.
Cheers, Sander
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Filiz Yilmaz
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Jim Reid
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JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
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Sander Steffann