Re: Bangemann Commission Document available from the Web
In message Wed, 13 Jul 94 12:48:12 BST, Toerless Eckert <Toerless.Eckert@INFORMATIK.UNI-ERLANGEN.DE> writes:
A very obvious aspect of the Bangemann report is that it at several places and in emphasized typography claims that the development of the European Information Highway should be a fully market driven effort and that governmental subsidies should be avoided. Rings some bells ?-! Not being a politician I might completely have missinterpreted the fine tunes of the report though :-).
What is a market anyway ? Is education, research, real-estate, housing, welfare, etc pp a market ? There are many opinions and many different ways to interpret such things and the EU usually has jet another interpretation.
Toerless
P.S.: GOVT SUX
BUT remember what happened when an EU initiative was not market driven. Remember GOSSIP. I have a tender request in front of me from a Government department which demands GOSIP compliance. They want some PCs on a LAN connected to a data-base UNIX engine with access to JANET. All because of EU legislation attempting to lead rather respond to the market. With IP the project would be trivial. Otherwise where do I get GOSIP software for a PC? I can just about get it for X.400 and X.29 but FTAM? You will also need a gateway to Couloured book or IP to get into JANET. Paul. Paul Bryant. Rutherford Lab, Chilton, Didcot, OX11 0QX, GB Tel. +44 235 445 267 Fax. +44 235 446 626
BUT remember what happened when an EU initiative was not market driven. Remember GOSSIP. I have a tender request in front of me from a Government department which demands GOSIP compliance. They want some PCs on a LAN connected to a data-base UNIX engine with access to JANET. All because of EU legislation attempting to lead rather respond to the market. With IP the project would be trivial. Otherwise where do I get GOSIP software for a PC? I can just about get it for X.400 and X.29 but FTAM? You will also need a
My team has ported Isode FTAM to DOS for X.25 over ethernet based on the edinburgh rainbow software. It will also interoperate with dynamic address mapping by IS10030 (SNARE) to allow for easyer administration on a local ethernet. You can get the software if you like (i think). We don't do UK specific standards though, like JANET name resolution, but that shouldn't be so much of a problem.
gateway to Couloured book or IP to get into JANET. Paul. Paul Bryant. Rutherford Lab, Chilton, Didcot, OX11 0QX, GB Tel. +44 235 445 267 Fax. +44 235 446 626
Ok, probably not the answer that you expected. You see, this kind of revelation ("We do OSI, We implement OSI and we even do it for DOS *yuck*) is not only offending to you but embarrasing to me too. So better forget it and go back to the brave new world of the Internet.
I believe the references to market driven is in respect to the PROVISION of services. The key here is that subsidy should not be given to any particular service provider. This does not preclude funds being made availabnle to pay for 'public policy use' e.g. public libuary access, and publication. nor the use of funds for encouraging use. i.e. Give the users any funds and let them decide how to spend it. The trouble with this philosophy is that it is difficult to get the money to 1,000s of users relative giving it to one service provider. -----------------------MIME Messages Accepted---------------------- Peter Dawe, Director, Unipalm plc, Email: peter@unipalm.co.uk Managing Director, PIPEX Ltd Voice: +44(0)223 250100 216 The Science Park, Milton Road Fax: +44(0)223 250101 Cambridge, England, CB4 4WA WWW: http://www.pipex.net -------------------------------------------------------------------
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