RE: [members-discuss] idea Christian 'wiwi' Wittenhorst
Hi Jørgen,
Paying for an "object" in a "database" is kindof silly as there are little or no expenses related to a database itself these days. If it would be up to me I would get 1x /18 instead of 2x /19 in the beginning, but RIPE NCC didn't approve on that. I shouldn't be punished because I am "saving" resources by using /19s instead of a /18 which was forced upon me by RIPE NCC.
I don't think you understand what the job of the RIPE hostmasters is about. It is not their role (or nature) to punish you, if you motivate why you require specific resources, you will get them (within the policies that are currently in place.) If you didn't provide the correct motivation, sobbing here doesn't make it better. The hostmasters only do their job, as it is our job to discuss and change the policies if we don't agree with the current model. Paying per object does actually reflect somewhat on the amount of labor/time/effort that the RIPE NCC workforce has to deal with you. Just my 2cp. Erik ---- If you don't want to receive mails from the RIPE NCC Members Discuss list, please log in to your LIR Portal account at: http://lirportal.ripe.net/ First click on General and then click on Edit. At the bottom of the page you can add or remove addresses.
On Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 01:18:11PM +0100, Erik Bais wrote:
Paying per object does actually reflect somewhat on the amount of labor/time/effort that the RIPE NCC workforce has to deal with you.
Just for clarity, I believe we should be talking about allocations here, not objects in the database. I have 5 or 6 IPv4 allocations from RIPE. Within those, I probably have over 100 assignment objects recorded in the database. I think it would be fair to be charged based on the number of allocations, as each allocation requires time with the RIPE NCC to process the request. Simon ---- If you don't want to receive mails from the RIPE NCC Members Discuss list, please log in to your LIR Portal account at: http://lirportal.ripe.net/ First click on General and then click on Edit. At the bottom of the page you can add or remove addresses.
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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: members-discuss-admin@ripe.net [mailto:members-discuss- admin@ripe.net] Im Auftrag von Simon Lockhart Gesendet: Mittwoch, 03. August 2011 14:22 An: Erik Bais Cc: J?rgen Hovland; members-discuss@ripe.net Betreff: Re: [members-discuss] idea Christian 'wiwi' Wittenhorst
On Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 01:18:11PM +0100, Erik Bais wrote:
Paying per object does actually reflect somewhat on the amount of labor/time/effort that the RIPE NCC workforce has to deal with you.
Just for clarity, I believe we should be talking about allocations here, not objects in the database.
I have 5 or 6 IPv4 allocations from RIPE. Within those, I probably have over 100 assignment objects recorded in the database.
I think it would be fair to be charged based on the number of allocations, as each allocation requires time with the RIPE NCC to process the request.
Simon
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