Re: [ripe-list] [members-discuss] A frank discussion
Hi Toma:That is exactly what Hans have been trying to confuse the community about.NRO letter is asking the government taking over RIR in exchange for immunity for RIR leadership , not asking government being part of community, but essentially ignore all the other stake holders, have government taking oversight rule -and abandon the 30 years community self governance. I am all for government stay as part of the community in multi stake holder model.But this is not the problem, and not the discussion needed here.Lu HengChief Executive Officer LARUS LimitedEmail H.Lu@LARUS.net Office +852 2988 8918 Address A3, 11/F, TML Tower, Tsuen Wan, N.T, Hong Kong SARWebsite: LARUS.netThis email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.---- On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 23:00:26 +0800 ximaera@gmail.com<ximaera@gmail.com> wrote ----Peace, On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 10:11 AM Lu Heng <h.lu@larus.net> wrote: > For RIPE NCC to make their case of seems deep interference with government > > [..] > > NRO's request to make RIR an ITU-like body, and RIPE NCC's apparent > consistent engagement with government officials to interfere in the matter, > I think it is high time for the community to be aware of, discuss and > decide whether such involvement is proper in a community driven, > bottom-up registry who has been independent of governmental > influences for more than three decades Outreach and mutual knowledge sharing between ASO/NRO and governments/intergovernmental organizations is neither anything new, nor a sign of any change in the way number resource authorities perform their duties in the multistakeholder model. You may want to get acquainted, for instance, with ICANN GAC duties and operations. https://gac.icann.org/about -- Töma
Peace, On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 5:51 PM Lu Heng <h.lu@larus.net> wrote:
NRO letter is asking the government taking over RIR in exchange for immunity for RIR leadership
If, for some reason, you're now referring to the summer NRO letter to the Mauritian government, then it was discussed previously, on more than one occasion, as thoroughly, as the RIPE community opted to do. If we could abstain from getting back again and again to the same topic in this mailing list (not even talking about any subsequent plenary submissions), that would be much appreciated. -- Töma
Hi Tome:I would very much prefer to move on on the subject.However during the discussion, Hans have been evasive the key point in which is the meaning of international organization.Later Mauritius government letter provided an definitive answer, and in light of recent engagement again on the same subject by ripe NCC in ITU meeting.Hence I feel the need for the community to be aware.And discuss if such deep involvement of RIPE NCC in an essentially African community subject matter is appreciated and if community agree for RIPE NCC asking the government to take over and end 30 years of self governance. Lu HengChief Executive Officer LARUS LimitedEmail H.Lu@LARUS.net Office +852 2988 8918 Address A3, 11/F, TML Tower, Tsuen Wan, N.T, Hong Kong SARWebsite: LARUS.netThis email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.---- On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 00:07:36 +0800 Töma Gavrichenkov<ximaera@gmail.com> wrote ----Peace, On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 5:51 PM Lu Heng <h.lu@larus.net> wrote: > NRO letter is asking the government taking over RIR > in exchange for immunity for RIR leadership If, for some reason, you're now referring to the summer NRO letter to the Mauritian government, then it was discussed previously, on more than one occasion, as thoroughly, as the RIPE community opted to do. If we could abstain from getting back again and again to the same topic in this mailing list (not even talking about any subsequent plenary submissions), that would be much appreciated. -- Töma
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