September 1996 - routing-wg - mailman.ripe.net

RA tools demo (still) available
by Geert Jan de Groot 30 Sep '96

30 Sep '96

Several people have asked me to keep the machine on which the RA tools were installed would be reachable after the RIPE-meeting. The machine (meeting.ripe.net) will be available for a couple of weeks after the meeting, and the demo account ('rademo', password also rademo) is still operational for those interested. Enjoy, Geert Jan

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RAToolSet
by Cengiz Alaettinoglu 24 Sep '96

24 Sep '96

Hi, RAToolSet can be downloaded from http://www.isi.edu/ra/RAToolSet. Below, I am including the instructions in case some of you may want to try it out next week. My understanding is that the tools will stay installed on meeting.ripe.net (acct name rademo) for a while. Regards. Cengiz -- Cengiz Alaettinoglu Information Sciences Institute (310) 822-1511 University of Southern California http://www.isi.edu/~cengiz ====================================================================== Instructions for RAToolSet Demos ================================ Your feedback on these tools are greatly appreciated. You can download RAToolSet from: ftp.isi.edu:ra/RAToolSet http://www.isi.edu/ra/RAToolSet There is a mailing list ratoolset(a)isi.edu To subscribe, send mail to majordomo(a)isi.edu with body of the message containing "subscribe ratoolset". NOTE: RAToolSet is configured to connect to RAWhoisd running at meeting.ripe.net at port 5045. If you get a connect failed error, RAWhoisd probably is not running anymore. In which case you can connect to whois.ra.net by issuing: unsetenv IRR_HOST unsetenv IRR_PORT To run: 1) cd demo/data NOTE: Most of the executables are in ~cengiz/demo/bin. This directory is already in the PATH of the rademo account. Example data files are in the ~/demo/data directrory. The man pages are in ~demo/man. The MANPATH contains this directory. 2) to generate a config file for a cisco router RtConfig < ornet-gw.ra You may want to examine the file ornet-gw.ra first. This file is used in production to configure one of the routers of Oregon IX (courtesy of Dave Meyer). 3) to generate a route server config file RtConfig -config rsd < rsd.sprint.tmpl rs1.sprint.ra.net is configured using this template file every four hours. You may want to add "-h meeting -p 5055" to speed this up. (see relayd below). 4) roe roe <your-as-number> If you have a cisco bgp dump, you should load it from the file menu. You may want to try "roe AS226", there is a bgp dump file that goes with this AS in file roe_bgp_dump_as226. 5) aoe aoe <your-as-number> If you have a cisco bgp dump, you should load it from the file menu. You may want to try "aoe AS3582", there is a bgp dump file that goes with this AS in file aoe_bgp_dump_as3582. 6) CIDRAdvisor CIDRAdvisor -incl_multihomed AS226 This will not check any policies. Try: CIDRAdvisor -incl_multihomed AS226 -radius -3 to check policies of all ASes 7) peval peval -expand_all 'AS1220 AND AS226' peval will list the multihomed routes between AS1220 and AS226 8) other (9 and 10 below are more interesting) prcheck <your-as-number> pmatch AS3130 cat.isi.edu prpath AS2914 193.85.128.0/24 prtraceroute www.isi.edu we are having problems running prtraceroute on bsdi. 9) relayd is running on meeting.ripe.net on port 5055. All tools above can be run using relayd by issuing the command line options "-h meeting -p 5055". For example: RtConfig -config rsd -h meeting -p 5055 < rsd.sprint.tmpl You will see warning messages saying the data comes from a CACHE. You may also notice certain tools run faster. If you get a connect() failed, most probably somebody rebooted meeting.ripe.net, and relayd is no longer running. You can restart relayd by: relayd -c all-as.db 10) IRRv irrv Rusty's instructions: For a demo the following things can be done: 1. Select "IRR -> AS Peers" menu option and enter as3333. => this expands as3333 2. Find Ebone (as1755) and drag it into the clear 3. Expand Ebone 4. Select "IRR -> Layout -> Gater Peers" => this will collect all of Ebones singly connected peers => around Ebone * at this point you may want expand a few more ases to get the map a bit cluttered to demo the "Gather Nodes" option. following are some suggested expansions 5. Expand as3215 6. Expand as5582 7. Expand UUNet (as175?) => this will cause the uunet icon to turn yellow, indicating no => registered peer info 8. Expand 6708 9. Select "IRR -> Layout -> Group Nodes" && select 3 or 4 levels on the popup => this will group all nodes of degree 3 (or 4) reducing much => clutter. 10. Select RIPE (as3333) and pulldown the 'IRR -> IRR -> Display Autnum" menu. => this will show the '!man,as3333' query results in the text => window. 11. Select RIPE (as3333) and pulldown the 'IRR -> IRR -> Display Routes" menu. => this will show the '!gas3333' query results in the text => window. 12. You can select the 'IRR -> Geographic -> World' to show the geographic ability, although the maps should show as a backdrop, this may produce uninteresting results. *** About exec'ing commands there is an executable script ~eddy/bin/irrv that will change directories to ~eddy/bin and exec tkined. I have symbolic links for: prpath -> ~cengiz/RAToolSet/src/prpath/prpath roe -> ~cengiz/RAToolSet/src/roe/roe prtraceroute -> ~cengiz/demo/bin/prtraceroute that will get executed when the 'IRR -> tools -> ..." gets selected. after executing prtraceroute or prpath using the text log screen and hyper commands, it is safest to quit the log window if you will attempt another exec of prtraceroute or prpath. This is because tkined has a bug that jumbles subsequent hyper link commands.

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Action 24.4: To investigate the status of the CIDR FAQ
by Willem van der Scheun 23 Sep '96

23 Sep '96

The CIDR FAQ is maintained by Hank Nussbacher (hank(a)vm.tau.ac.il or hank(a)ibm.net.il) It's URL is http://www.ibm.net.il/~hank/cidr.html http://www.rain.net/faqs/cidr.faq.html Last version if dated May 1996.

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Proposed agenda for next meeting
by Willem van der Scheun 20 Sep '96

20 Sep '96

Dear collegues, Please find below the proposed agenda for the next meeting of the RIPE routing WG. I want to draw your attention to agenda point 3, change of chairman. If there are any objections against Joachim Schmitz taking over please let them know beforehand. Also if there are other candidates please make that known. 1. Opening & administrativa 2. Agenda bashing 3. Chairman of the Routing WG The present chairman will step down and proposes to appoint Joachim Schmitz of the DFN NOC as new chairman. 4. Report from the RIPE NCC 5. Presentation by Joachim Schmitz on working experience with ROE (route object editor). 6. Presentation by Tony Barber of Pipex on experience with Progressive BGP route dampening 7. Presentation by Cengiz Alaettinoglu of ISI on Routing Policy Analysis Tools: - RtConfig (router configuration generator) - roe (route object editor) - aoe (autonomous system object editor) - CIDRAdvisor - IRR visualisation - IRRRelayd - prpath/prtraceroute/prcheck 8. If time permits IRRRelayd - prpath/prtraceroute/prcheck 8. If time permits hands on experience with the ISI tools 9. Closing -- Willem

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proposal for inet-rtr obj extensions, for multicast, etc.
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 18 Sep '96

18 Sep '96

Dear all, (to complete a long-standing RIPE action and to make progress) please find below a modified version of a document (originally by Erik-Jan Bos) which then was describing a multicast router in a routing registry. This version proposes a more generalized approach and tries to discuss some implications, benefits and compatibility issues. It is up for discussion in the relevant RIPE working groups - in particular Routing, Mbone, (IPv6??) and DataBase. Of course any input and suggestions welcome! I would like to have your comments before and at the RIPE 25 Meeting, as well as on the mailing lists. Apologies for any rough edges, inconsistencies, omissins and typos. I'm sure we're going to change and improve this text (if this is at all perceived as a useful exercise) and before it could eventually become a RIPE Document. Best regards, Wilfried. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wilfried Woeber : e-mail: Woeber(a)CC.UniVie.ac.at Computer Center - ACOnet : Vienna University : Tel: +43 1 4065822 355 Universitaetsstrasse 7 : Fax: +43 1 4065822 170 A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe : NIC: WW144 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Start of document Generalized Description of Peering Relations in a Routing Registry Erik-Jan Bos, Wilfried Woeber Document ID: ripe-nnn September, 1996 [ adapted and extended from a previous proposal titled: ] [ ] [ A Multicast Router in the Routing Registry ] [ Erik-Jan Bos ] [ Document ID: ripe-nnn ] [ May, 1995 ] **** DRAFT ** WORK IN PROGRESS ** DRAFT **** ABSTRACT This document describes an extension and generalization of concepts as documented in ripe-122 (Specifying an "Internet Router" in the Routing Registry) by which it becomes possible to define peering relations in a very general way. This approach should in particular be understood to support documentation and debugging of "overlay networks" and regular routing protocol peerings at the same time. Originally this work was started to acommodate the description of a multicast capable Internet router within a routing registry. Comments and suggestions received at RIPE DB-WG sessions and private input led to the proposal to generalize the functionality. In addition to the inet-rtr specific attributes we propose the inclusion of a url: attribute, which is already proposed as an extension to all defined objects. 1. Introduction With the growing of the Mbone worldwide, managing the Mbone becomes a complex task. The multicast-bone is already suffering from problems that used to be present in the unicast-bone several years ago, such as routing coordination (and the lack of scoping of announcements). While the Mbone is currently a focus of interest, activity, growth and coordination efforts, we expect the general concept of an overlay network that needs routing coordination to become a general issue (e.g. IPv6 tunnels). Today, registries are available for administering policies and routes and routers [1]. Tools are availble [2,3] for checking and analyzing the real world against what is registered. The Mbone in particular, and other "overlay networks" in general, could and should benefit from these technologies coming from the unicast world. The features of the specification described in this document will be usable e.g. in the RIPE Data Base, after review by the RIPE Data Base WG. After implementation tools could be developed for mapping and analyzing the various different peering environments and/or overlay meshes. Furthermore, administrative details (such as contact person) and operational information (e.g. NOC info as described in role objects) are easily administered by well known procedures and become easily retrievable. Further discussion of the basic concepts led to the idea of generalizing this approach to cater for registering all sorts of peerings, with the dynamic exchange of routing information being a secondary issue. A long-term goal should be to provide the level of configuration and debugging support that is already available for maintaining external unicast routing to a broader range of routing domains. 2. Multicast routers versus unicast routers An "Internet Router" or a "gateway" in the current version of IP (IPv4) can be defined as follows [4]: "Gateways in the Internet form a cooperative, interconnected structure. Datagrams pass from gateway to gateway until they reach a gateway that can deliver the datagram directly." This definition can be applied to both unicast and multicast routers. Since both a unicast and multicast router are fulfilling the "Internet Router" function for different natures of traffic, there is no need for a special routing registry data base object. Moreover, both functions could be present in the same box. 3. A Router specification a multi-protocol router in the Internet Because an Internet Router - can perform different types of routing at the same time, e.g. . IP unicast routing . multicast routing using DVMRP tunnels or PIM . IPv4/IPv6 or "general purpose" tunnels - in many situations there are defined or potential interactions between the routing domains documentation of these facts should be possible in the routing registry. 3.1 A Simple Router Object, IPv4-only, Current Definiton Each router is uniquely defined by by its object name, also known as the fully qualified domain name. Below is an example of a internet router object, specifying a general purpose unicast router: inet-rtr: broodjeham.surfnet.nl localas: AS1103 ifaddr: 192.87.106.102 255.255.255.192 ifaddr: 192.87.4.99 255.255.255.0 peer: 161.53.2.1 AS2108 BGP4 admin-c: Erik-Jan Bos tech-c: Henk Steenman notify: netmaster(a)surfnet.nl changed: Erik-Jan.Bos(a)surfnet.nl 950505 source: RIPE Several pieces of important information are present in this object as described in ripe-122. First of all there is the FQDN of the router, acting as object name. The Home Autonomous System Number is shown, which (currently) is only meaningful in the context of external IP routing. Furthermore, the ifaddr:-lines show that this router has two interfaces, connected to two different networks, and the masks used on these networks. Finally the peer attribute records the IP (Version 4) address for an external BGP peering and lists peering specific information, eg. the localas: of the peer router (AS2108) and the type and version of the EGP used (BGP4). 3.2 A Router for IPv4 and DVMRP, extending the current structure For a moment, let us assume that this box is at the same time used as a multicast router and has a DVMRP tunnel configured. One of the approaches would be to define a dedicated attribute to describe this configuration, say mpeer: for multicast peering. The router object would then look like the following example: inet-rtr: broodjeham.surfnet.nl localas: AS1103 ifaddr: 192.87.106.102 255.255.255.192 ifaddr: 192.87.4.99 255.255.255.0 peer: 161.53.2.1 AS2108 BGP4 mpeer: 192.87.108.13 16 1 admin-c: Erik-Jan Bos tech-c: Henk Steenman notify: netmaster(a)surfnet.nl remarks: SURFnet Multicast router changed: Erik-Jan.Bos(a)surfnet.nl 950505 source: RIPE While all the previously defined and well-known attributes would remain unchanged, the newly invented mpeer: line would be used to describe a DVMRP peering and showing it's peer's IP address, the treshold and metric. Again, the format and interpretation of the entries beyond the IP (Version 4) address would be specific for that attribute. The advantage of that approach is that there is no need to change the definition of exiting attributes, which in turn preserves the functionality of any tools written to understand the specific information. However, there is a couple of major disadvantages when proceeding in that direction - the most important ones being that - the object's definition and schema has to be changed whenever a new attribute for a differnet kind of peering is proposed - frequent changes of the objects schema would lead to incompatible versions of the software - eventually having a sizeable number of different attributes for the various peerings leeds to congestion of the namespace for attribute tags and (probably) to confusion and errors on the human part of the system - and (maybe the most important thing) there is currently no way to describe peerings that do not use IPv4 addresses to identify the peer, e.g. IPv6 and some other protocols 3.3 The Generalization of the Peer Description Concept Because of these reasons given in 3.2 we propose to change the concept of the peering description to become more general and extensible by moving the peering protocol identifier into the first part on the line and deriving the format and meaning from that. Thus the example object used here would look like the following: inet-rtr: broodjeham.surfnet.nl localas: AS1103 ifaddr: 192.87.106.102 255.255.255.192 ifaddr: 192.87.4.99 255.255.255.0 g-peer: BGP4 161.53.2.1 AS2108 g-peer DVMRP 192.87.108.13 16 1 admin-c: Erik-Jan Bos tech-c: Henk Steenman notify: netmaster(a)surfnet.nl remarks: SURFnet Multicast router changed: Erik-Jan.Bos(a)surfnet.nl 950505 source: RIPE Changing the object's schema in that way raises the issue of backwards compatibility versus "cleanliness" (tools) and compatibility of possibly different versions of the software deploied at different registries. 3.4 Backwards Compatibility Discussion For the backwards compatibility we propose to define a new attribute g-peer, "generalized peering description", and eventually make the peer: attribute obsolete - as soon as the tools have been converted to understand the new format. The disadvantage is the coexistence and/or duplicate registration of BGP4 specific information in peer: and/or g-peer: lines. An alternate approach would be to stick with the peer: attribute for the BGP4 specific information and to specify all other types of peering in g-peer: attributes. While this may be an advantage in the short term, it might add complexity for the tools in the long run by requiring them to understand different attribute formats. For the different software version issue we propose to have the implementation treat any unknown peering type (and the rest of the line) as a remark. This situation should generate a warning at the time of registration or update, and there should probably a switch to instruct the software to suppress the warning or do more stringent tests. We specifically ask the maintainers of tools which are currently relying on the peer: attribute, and the RIPE- and Internet-Community in general, for guidance about these issues! All other attributes would remain as already defined for a routing registry [1]. See next chapter for the syntax definition and concepts for extension. 4. Multiprotocol Router Syntax Definition An object for a router capable of maintaining different routing protocol (or tunnel) peerings in parallel is defined here. Each of the possible attributes are shown, on a single line. The second column defines whether the attribute must be present [mandatory] of could be present [optional]. The third column defines whether exactly one line is allowed [single] or that more than one line of the same attribute is allowed [multiple]. In case an attribute has more lines than one, the name of the attribute must be repeated on each line. inet-rtr: [mandatory] [single] localas: [mandatory] [single] ifaddr: [mandatory] [multiple] peer: [obsolete] [multiple] g-peer: [mandatory] [multiple] admin-c: [mandatory] [multiple] tech-c: [mandatory] [multiple] notify: [optional] [multiple] remarks: [optional] [multiple] changed: [mandatory] [multiple] source: [mandatory] [single] Each attribute has the following syntax: inet-rtr: The fully qualified domain name of the router. localas: The Autonomous System to which the router belongs. [Note: For the time being this is specific for the IPv4 external routing domain. It might even be useful to move that information to a g-peer: BGP4 entry?!] ifaddr: An interface IPv4 address of the router. [Note: the current draft of this proposal does not deal with necessary or desirable changes for IPv6.] peer: obsolete, potentially useful until RR tools are changed! g-peer: A peering of the router with another router, indicating the protocol and any protocol-specific information. [Note: please refer to the next section for the protocols being proposed in this draft and the proposed mechanisms for extension] Format: <protocol-ID> <peer address> <additional information> Examples: g-peer: DVMRP 192.87.108.13 16 1 g-peer: BGP4 161.53.2.1 AS2108 g-peer: IPv6-TUN IPv6-Address IPv6-specific Status: mandatory, multiple instances allowed. admin-c: Full name or uniquely assigned NIC-handle of a contact person for administrative matters. tech-c: Full name or uniquely assigned NIC-handle of a contact person for technical matters. notify: An e-mail address to which notifications of changes to this object should be send. remarks: Remarks or comments, for clarification purposes only. changed: The e-mail address and date of a change. source: Source of the information. 4.1 Discussion of Application Use of this approach has already been discussed for BGP4: g-peer: BGP4 <remote-peer address> <peer AS> example: BGP4 192.87.4.6 AS2122 localAS AS2121 or even g-peer: BGP4 <remote-peer address> <peer AS> [localAS <ASnumber>] DVMRP g-peer: DVMRP <remote-peer address> <metric> <thresh> example: DVMRP 192.87.4.6 192.87.108.13 16 1 IP-over-IP g-peer: IPv4-TUN <remote-peer address> example: IPv4-TUN 192.87.4.6 or g-peer: IPv6-TUN <remote-peer address> example: IPv6-TUN IPv6-Address 4.2 Extensions * t.b.s. * [ The gist of it should be that future extensions could be incorporated by simply editing a software configuratin file to define additional protocol types and supplying the syntax checking rules. To be discussed in more detail. ] 5. Acknowledgements This specification, being an addition to ripe-122, leans on the specification done by the author of ripe-122. Credits go to Tony Bates. Furthermore, the RIPE Mbone-WG has already done some reviewing of a previous version of this document and they receive credits as well. We are grateful for detailed suggestions received from David Kessens (ISI, then with the RIPE-NCC) and Steve Richardson (Merit). 6. Security considerations Security is not considered in this document. 7. References [1] Bates, Tony, "Specifying an Internet Router in the Routing Registry", ripe-122, October 1994. On-line at URL: ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-122.txt [2] PRIDE Tools Release 1. On-line at URL: ftp://ftp.ripe.net/pride/tools/pride-tools-1.tar.Z [3] Merit Inc. RRDB Tools. On-line at URL: ftp://rrdb.merit.edu/pub/meritrr [4] Douglas Comer, "Internetworking with TCP/IP", Prentice-Hall, 1988. ISBN: 0-13-470188-7. --- End of document --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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