On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote:
On 2000-12-13T00:46:02, Daniel Karrenberg <Daniel.Karrenberg@ripe.net> said:
RIPE can only sugest to people to behave like good citizens, explaining the reasons for it from the community perspective and also tell them why their mileage may vary anyways. There is no way RIPE or the RIPE NCC can pressure ISPs to change their behavior.
"Bad" behaviour could result in the assignment window being lowered, future allocations being delayed, RIPE NCC could suggest to relevant upstreams that the downstream be filtered (or see figure 1)...
But this would still be the RIPE NCC acting as regulator, exactly what Daniel believes we should avoid. To add to that, you've also suggested the NCC should behave like some sort of child-minder dealing with naughty children, by rationing sweeties. Punitive measures are just counter-productive. Encouraging and teaching responsibility/cluefulness in this area is the way to go - and the RIPE (as a body, not the NCC) could help to do this by bringing up route filtering as part of the Routing-WG, and/or running some sort of workshop on "Being a good peer" as far as filtering goes. Mike -- Mike Hughes Network Architect London Internet Exchange mike@linx.net http://www.linx.net/ "Only one thing in life is certain: init is Process #1"