Sent from the road while on tour On Jul 15, 2017 08:25, "Leslie" <geekgirl@gmail.com> wrote: Sent from the road while on tour On Jul 15, 2017 05:00, "Malcolm Hutty" <malcolm@linx.net> wrote: On 14/07/2017 15:03, Leslie wrote:
Do you feel like the Code of Conduct https://ripe74.ripe.net/on-site/code-of-conduct/ and https://www.ripe.net/participate/mail/ripe-mailing-list-
ripe-forum-code-of-conduct
is not sufficient? What's it lacking?
Well it certainly worth a review to see if it's fit for purpose, especially since it was simply announced without community review. It has been around for several meetings and printed on the badges for at least the last two meetings, if not more. It's not a secret by any means. HPH has also displayed and talked about the code of conduct in his opening remarks at the last several meetings.
I think we should also consider trying to actively survey former community participants who no longer participate, to discover if non-participation was motivated by a previous negative experience (again, prevalence); and also, if not, to discover if there was another identifiable lack that might be remediable.
Giving a survey of people's experiences is a good idea, but not if it the purpose is only to say "there's not a problem" as it is very difficult (close to impossible) to survey people who have left the community and people who don't feel comfortable joining in the first place. There's survivorship bias.
Thank you for your support for the idea. As I said, the purpose would be to discover the prevalence of abusive behaviour. You will also note that I proposed actively surveying former participants specifically to counter the risk of survivorship bias. As I mentioned above, that is very difficult. How would you identify and reach out to the people who have left and don't feel comfortable joining?
Trying to be more inclusive is not disrespecting individuals or pandering to demographic statistics.
No, but setting targets for demographic statistics for our community does constitute such pandering, will inevitably lead to actions that disrespect individuals (as it prioritises their membership of an identified group over what they have to contribute) and is, in my opinion, the opposite of inclusive. -- Malcolm Hutty | tel: +44 20 7645 3523 Head of Public Affairs | Read the LINX Public Affairs blog London Internet Exchange | http://publicaffairs.linx.net/ London Internet Exchange Ltd Monument Place, 24 Monument Street London EC3R 8AJ Company Registered in England No. 3137929 Trinity Court, Trinity Street, Peterborough PE1 1DA