As already said, commercial usage would also mean that you have to earn credits in some way. As far as I know, it's only possible to earn credits by - hosting probes itself - sponsoring new probes - getting a LIR In either of the first two cases, the atlas project will benefit from it. The third one is a special case and isn't worth a discussion. So I think we should allow commercial usage of the Atlas project, if commercial usage still means to support the Atlas project itself because of the need for credits! Would be a win-win situation. Michael 2013/9/5 Daniel Karrenberg <daniel.karrenberg@ripe.net>

On 05.09.2013, at 11:42 , Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> wrote:

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On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 05:22:50PM +0800, Sanjeev Gupta <ghane0@gmail.com> wrote a message of 107 lines which said:

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Adam Smith was right, the baker and the butcher feed me by being selfish.

So, apparently, there is no consensus among the Atlas community. An interesting discussion to have in Athens?

It is a discussion we should have in the mat-wg. The working groups work on the mailing lists; physical meetings are just focal points for the work.

Daniel