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RIPE routing object test.
by boss＠sunet.se 20 Mar '93

20 Mar '93

There is a couple of papers in EBONE which seems to have got forgotten in the EAT/EOT action process. EBONE Routing Plan EBONE Use of the RIPE Routing Object These two papers are very much dependant on the RIPE Routing Recommendation. Some time ago a new routing object was defined and is now(?) under testing. I am interested to know if there is a schedule for getting the RIPE routing recommendation approved by RIPE. After this have happended it should be possible to complete the above mentioned papers. Regards, Bernhard.

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Heads up: NCC Funding Discussion
by Daniel Karrenberg 16 Mar '93

16 Mar '93

The latest proposal about the NCC funding model has just been posted on the local-ir(a)ripe.net mailing list. Those -especially service providers- who whould like to participate in the discussion about this should subscribe by sending mail to local-ir-request(a)ripe.net mentioning that they would like a copy of the funing proposal v 0.7.

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Re: RIPE DNS Hostcount February 1993
by Christophe Wolfhugel 15 Mar '93

15 Mar '93

> [ zone transfers adding glue records which are not in the zone files ] Those "glue records getting transferred" problems seems to appear on many systems, Bind 4.8.3, but also Sun's named. I peeked around within all the domains I had access to the zone files and on lots of them got the same problem. Scsnms.switch.ch has a modified release which eliminates those glue records, as well as nikhef.nl probably. I even suspect this to be the cause of crashes we recently had on an HP-UX being secondary (the system hung while named-xfer was running). I'm waiting for Bind 4.9 to see if this problem is persistant. Perhaps could Paul Vixie indicate us if this issue has been adressed, or just even known, in 4.9 ? Christophe Wolfhugel -+- wolf(a)hsc-sec.fr -+- Herve Schauer Consultants

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Re: RIPE DNS Hostcount February 1993
by Willi Huber 15 Mar '93

15 Mar '93

Marten wrote: > Folks, > > A bit later than usual, but here is the February RIPE DNS hostcount. > > - CH, DK, IL and YU all went down, with CH going down almost 3000 hosts. As > far as I could see from the error output, this is due to connectivity issues > and badly configured nameservers ... according to the ch.error file the reason for the lost 3000 host in CH is: >>>>>>>> No nameservers for epfl.CH responded When looking into this error file I also see a lot of entries like: !!! extraneous glue record for scsnms.switch.ch within dial-switch.CH But I can't find the corresponding glue records at all, at least in the hostfiles I am responsible for. In fact I recently gave the same advice (to remove unnecessary glue records) to a customer of SWITCH, we are running a secondary DNS server for. In the transfered zone file there were entries like: $ORIGIN ch. isburg IN NS scsnms.switch.ch. ; Ignoring info about scsnms.switch.ch, not in zone isburg.ch. ; $ORIGIN switch.ch. ; scsnms 512565 IN A 130.59.1.30 But I had to learn, that these entries are NOT caused by unnecessary glue records, they are just generated for what ever reasons by BIND. So are the glue records, the RIPE DNS job detects, also not real? I guess so. Willi Huber

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RIPE DNS Hostcount February 1993
by Marten Terpstra 08 Mar '93

08 Mar '93

Folks, A bit later than usual, but here is the February RIPE DNS hostcount. - CH, DK, IL and YU all went down, with CH going down almost 3000 hosts. As far as I could see from the error output, this is due to connectivity issues and badly configured nameservers ... - The two largest countries (UK and DE) still grow fastest. Again the counts for UK and DE have been done inside the country, whereas all other counts were done centrally from the NCC. SI (Slovenia) jumped from 1 to 126 hosts this month. - Overall a nice increase of 19,000 to almost 323,000. - The full zone output for all countries can again be found on ftp.ripe.net:/ripe/hostcount. - Phil Gross found one of the missing hostcounts in his mail archive. After some digging in my old NIKHEF files, I have also retrieved that one, and have added it to the History below (January 1992 - 141308 hosts). Cheers, -Marten RIPE DNS Hostcount Previous Count : Sun Jan 31 1993 This Count : Sun Feb 28 1993 CY SOA COUNTED DUPL REAL CHANGE ============================================================ al 1 0 0 0 0 at 204 9548 66 9482 + 196 be 36 2554 64 2490 + 832 bg 1 1 0 1 0 by 0 0 0 0 0 ch 119 21185 189 20996 - 2832 cs 77 2043 47 1996 + 295 de 1091 73085 1096 71989 + 5946 dk 92 5336 51 5285 - 98 dz 0 0 0 0 0 ee 11 96 0 96 + 20 es 208 7173 133 7040 + 462 fi 175 20729 509 20220 + 614 fr 377 29661 1145 28516 + 2797 gb 1 6 0 6 + 1 gr 53 680 17 663 - 36 hr 8 163 21 142 + 142 hu 18 763 6 757 + 112 ie 33 1396 30 1366 + 82 is 21 901 10 891 + 79 it 253 9685 101 9584 + 859 il 43 3748 48 3700 - 54 lt 1 0 0 0 0 lu 8 146 1 145 + 32 lv 1 7 0 7 0 nl 319 26879 381 26498 + 1281 no 369 19913 198 19715 + 569 pl 107 2181 9 2172 + 865 pt 66 2107 44 2063 + 162 ro 1 15 0 15 + 15 se 414 28309 301 28008 + 1360 si 3 127 1 126 + 125 su 127 65 0 65 + 5 tn 2 16 0 16 + 1 ua 28 0 0 0 0 uk 509 67392 8542 58850 + 5251 va 0 0 0 0 0 yu 2 2 0 2 - 9 ============================================================ 4779 335912 13010 322902 +19074 History Oct 1990 31724 Nov 1990 33665 Dec 1990 29230 Jan 1991 43832 Feb 1991 - Mar 1991 44506 Apr 1991 46948 May 1991 - Jun 1991 63267 Jul 1991 - Aug 1991 73069 Sep 1991 92834 Oct 1991 104824 Nov 1991 129652 Dec 1991 - Jan 1992 141308 Feb 1992 161434 Mar 1992 167939 Apr 1992 170050 May 1992 182528 Jun 1992 196758 Jul 1992 213017 Aug 1992 221951 Sep 1992 232522 Oct 1992 254585 Nov 1992 271795 Dec 1992 284374 Jan 1993 303828 Feb 1993 322902

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RIPE NCC Outage Today at 18:00 GMT+1
by RIPE NCC Staff 05 Mar '93

05 Mar '93

Colleagues, All NCC machines will be out of service today Friday March 5th at 18:00 GMT+1 for installation of additional disks and major file system rearrangements For this purpose, which we cannot just do in single user mode for those wondering, we will shutdown the complete NCC ethernet to avoid the loss of database updates or other messages when moving filesystems around. We think this whole operation will take some 2 hours, after which we will be back on the air. Apologies for any inconvenience, NCC Staff

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A new document available ripe-82.
by Tony Bates 03 Mar '93

03 Mar '93

A Document known as ripe-82 has been placed in the ripe document store. Ref: ripe-82 Title: Internet Rouitng in a Multi Provider, Multi Path Open Environment Author: Tony Bates, Daniel Karrenberg, Peter Lothberg, Bernhard Stockman, Marten Terpstra Date: 3 March 1993 Format: PS=63491 bytes TXT=27448 bytes How to access: -------------- The documents can be retrieved by anonymous ftp from ftp.RIPE.net in the directory ripe/docs/ripe-docs This document is "For information". This is a document we put together as part of the route-server initiative for the Internet Engineering Planning Group. It discuss the key aspects of the Route-server and GIX model. Enjoy ! --Tony.

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Creation of the GISS Working Group Mailing List.
by RIPE List Maintainer 26 Feb '93

26 Feb '93

The Generic Internet Service Specification Mailing List has been set up. I expect to send the basic `strawman' proposal for this out early next week as proposed at the Prague RIPE meeting. Apologies for not getting to this sooner. Would those who would like to be involved in this topic please subscribe to the mailing list. Please address all correspondence regarding list administration and mail problems associated with the list to <giss-wg-request(a)ripe.net>. This will be the focus for all dicussion regarding the GISS project. ---Tony Bates, RIPE NCC.

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RARE UPDATE No.8
by bersee＠rare.nl 24 Feb '93

24 Feb '93

**************** A RARE UPDATE No.8, February 1993 **************** NEWS FROM THE COA by Josefien Bersee at the RARE Secretariat The 25th meeting of the RARE Council of Administration took place on February 4/5 1993. Progress and results on major subjects are summarized below. _________________________________________________________ SEPARATE MEMBERSHIP FOR CZECH AND SLOVAK NETWORKS Czechoslovakia, formerly represented by the Institute of Applied Cybernetics as Associate National Member of RARE, split up into two republics recently. Therefore membership to RARE had to be changed accordingly. The COA accepted separate Czech (CESNET) and Slovak (SANET) networking organizations as new Full National Members. RTC REAPPOINTED FOR TWO YEARS' TERM The RARE Technical Committee, which started its activities in April last year has been reappointed for a two years' term, ending 1 May 1995. In addition to the existing members Milan Sterba will represent RIPE. Currently there is one vacancy, as Eike Jessen had to resign. The current RTC is chaired by Tomaz Kalin, RARE Secretary-General; Tim Dixon, RARE Project Development Officer acts as Secretary. Other members are: Brian Gilmore (Edinburgh University, United Kingdom), Erik Huizer (SURFnet, Netherlands), Jean-Paul Le Guigner (CICB, France), Bernhard Plattner (ETH Zuerich, Switzerland), and Sven Tafvelin (NORDUnet, Chalmers Technical Institute, Sweden). Howard Davies (RARE Vice-President, University of Exeter, UK) liaises between the RTC and the RARE Executive Committee and Christian Huitema (INRIA, France) liaises between RARE and the Internet Architecture Board. PROGRESS ON RARE TECHNICAL PROGRAMME The preparation of a Survey on Multimedia Research, Standards, and Products was contracted to the University of Edinburgh. In January editor Chris Adie made a draft version of the survey available. Work on the GIX route server and IP specification work is progressing well. Tony Bates, formerly working as Assistant Network Manager at ULCC, has been hired to work on the project; he is housed with the RIPE NCC. A RARE/RIPE Task Force concerned with IP version 7 has started its activities; two or 3 pilots are already on the way. The RTC will take action to raise the necessary additional funds. NEW PROJECT DEVELOPMENT OFFICER AT RARE SECRETARIAT Jeroen Houttuin has started work as PDO at the RARE Secretariat in Amsterdam on January 1st. He studied telematics at the University of Twente and has been involved in R&D networking projects at GMD-FOKUS, ETH Zuerich, and SWITCH. He participated in the COSINE MHS Project Team. Jeroen will be involved in RARE Working Group activities, upper-layer related issues in particular. EBONE IN 1993 The EBONE'92 backbone continues in 1993. At the Ebone consortium meeting on Feb. 3 in Luxembourg the partners finalized the budget, decided on an upgrade of the backbone and set up the organization to operate Ebone in 1993. Ebone's long term strategy was confirmed to concentrate in the future on providing a neutral interconnect for all networks, while it is assumed that provision of backbone services will be offered by one or more (competing) providers in the longer run. Until such offers are forthcoming, Ebone will take care of its partners' needs in this area too. The RARE Secretariat will continue to provide administrative services and act as a clearing house. LAUNCH EuropaNET On 9 February EuropaNET, the multi-protocol backbone for the European research community, was launched in The Hague, The Netherlands. EuropaNET replaces IXI, COSINE's International X.25 Infrastructure pilot which connected European researchers over the past two years. START-UP CONTRACT OPERATIONAL UNIT SIGNED BY RARE RARE has signed the contract with the CEC for the start-up of the Operational Unit for provision of networking services to the European research community. The RARE Executive Committee and the OU Steering Committee have reached agreement on RARE acting on behalf of the Operational Unit. PUBLICATION OF PAPER VERSION RARE/EARN JOURNAL APPROVED The COA approved the budget for publishing a paper version of a new journal jointly published by RARE and EARN. It will appear as a quarterly supplement to the Elsevier North Holland journal "Computer Networks and ISDN Systems" Publication of the first issue is planned for April. PRELIMINARY PROGRAMME 4TH JENC AVAILABLE The preliminary programme and registration form for the 4th Joint European Networking Conference are now available from the RARE Secretariat, on paper as well as electronically. The deadline for the early registration fee is March 29th.

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"Representation of IP Routing Policies in the RIPE Database" paper.
by Tony Bates 22 Feb '93

22 Feb '93

As discussed at the previous RIPE meeting I circulated the routing paper draft to the RIPE routing group as proposed and have been folding in comments and additions for the last two weeks. I have got a finished document that is felt complete enough to be vented to a wider audience. The document is known as ripe-81. Ref: ripe-81 Title: Representation of IP Routing Policies in the RIPE Database Author: Tony Bates, Jean-Michel Jouanigot, Daniel Karrenberg, Peter Lothberg, Marten Terpstra Date: 22 February 1993 Format: PS=151610 bytes TXT=73452 bytes Obsoletes: Obsoleted by: Updates: Updated by: Old: The documents can be retrieved by anonymous ftp from ftp.RIPE.net in the directory ripe/ripe-docs as the filenames ripe-81.txt (ascii based version) ripe-81.ps (postscript version) The document is specifically marked as "Work in progress" as we still need it ratified at the next RIPE meeting. At this point if we reach consensus it will be assigned a new ripe document number and this will be obseleted. I encourage everyone to read this document. ALL COMMENTS ARE MOST WELCOME and will be folded in as time permits for review at the next RIPE meeting. As an update and also to perhaps help in reading as well. 1) We have a very basic prototype that can generate both cisco and gated accesslists from the database. A very small pilot has started and we here at the NCC are just generating access-lists derived from information from a pseudo database using the proposed format. I will be contacting other potential partners in the pilot in due course. This will be done via the routing group list so as not to clutter the main list. 2) A very basic prototype of a "prtrace" type tool is also under way. 3) We have also started on a suite on "configurator" based tools to make life generally easier for network providers. As I said all comments welcome. Tony Bates, RIPE NCC

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