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3Com routers
by Nandor Horvath 09 Jan '94

09 Jan '94

Hi, We have got an offer for 3Com NETBuilder II routers. They seem to be quite cheap, but I do not have any experience with them. If you have such a router, could you please write me your experience with them, especially compared to CISCO router? Can it really support BGP 4 routing protocol and RFC877 encapsulation? Many thanks for your reply, Nandor Horvath

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Announcement of the Amsterdam Internet Exchange
by Erik-Jan Bos 07 Jan '94

07 Jan '94

ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE AMSTERDAM INTERNET EXCHANGE SURFnet hereby announces that resources will be made available to facilitate the establishment of the pilot Amsterdam Internet Exchange. It is planned to have a Route Server and Mbone facilities at the pilot Amsterdam Internet Exchange in operation on 1 February 1994. The pilot Amsterdam Internet Exchange will be available to all interested Internet service providers. The connections at the pilot Amsterdam Internet Exchange will be free of charge during 1994. It is the intent that the Amsterdam Internet Exchange will be a part of a Distributed Global Internet eXchange facility. SURFnet has recognized from the start that the development of a true Distributed Global Internet eXchange facility is only possible when there is close collaboration between all partners involved. SURFnet has facilitated route server development through RARE and the RIPE NCC from the beginning. The establishment of the pilot Amsterdam Internet Exchange is a demonstration of SURFnet's ongoing commitment to the cooperative development of a Distributed Global Internet eXchange facility. For more information please contact SURFnet on the address below: Erik-Jan Bos SURFnet bv P.O. Box 19035 NL - 3501 DA Utrecht The Netherlands Phone: +31 30 310290 Fax: +31 30 340903 Email: erik-jan.bos(a)surfnet.nl __ Erik-Jan.

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Re: 3Com routers
by Dave Morton 07 Jan '94

07 Jan '94

3Com have a BGP4 implementation as far as I recently read in a draft rfc from Paul Triana, cisco. I remember something about them not being able to do aggregation though - mabye this has changed. Other than that we've no experience here with the boxes. Dave `h

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IAB/IESG Nominating Committee
by Fred Baker 05 Jan '94

05 Jan '94

As of this morning, I have 41 nominating committee volunteers and two liason contacts. Of the volunteers, the POISED document (RFC 1396) says I must draw seven names. The stochastic event will happen on Monday, January 10. If you wish to volunteer, please drop me a note with your name, business address, and business and home telephone and FAX numbers. You must have attended two IETF meetings and not want a job on the IESG or the IAB. Many have asked as to the scope of the work involved. By April at the latest (and realistically, by March) we must propose persons to replace six current IAB and six current IESG members. Many of the incumbents are interested in continuing in service, but not all. I expect that somewhere between 40 and 80 hours of effort will be asked of each nominating committee member over the next three months. ============================================================================= Is that the light at the end of the tunnel I see? Or is it an oncoming train?

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RIPE DNS Hostcount December 1993
by Marten Terpstra 05 Jan '94

05 Jan '94

Hello all, First of all of course the best wishes for 1994 for all from the RIPE NCC. Below is the last hostcount for 1993. It has been run during the Xmas holidays, which might explain some domains showing a bit less than previous counts. All the domains that show lower figures have been redone, without improvement. - an overall improvement of 19,656 to bring the total to 553,357. Like I mentioned in October, it took exactly a year to double (280,000 in December 1992). The total increase over last quarter is almost 18% (or 84,000 machines). - CH is the one domain which shows a count almost 3,000 lower than the previous time, reason unknown. - DE has taken over first place from the UK again. - all output and history again in ftp.ripe.net:ripe/hostcount - as mentioned last month, we planned to do a worldwide hostcount using our mechanism, to compare to the Mark Lottor data. We have gathered all the data we needed for this (70 Mbytes gzipped) and are currently processing all this data (which takes a while on a simple ELC ;-) A report like Mark Lottor produces should be out sometime next week. Right now, that data seems comparable to Marks data, but there are some interesting differences. Please have some patience for these results. We will also do an address usage overview for all this data. Enjoy, -Marten RIPE DNS Hostcount Previous Count : Tue Nov 2 1993 This Count : Fri Dec 31 1993 CY SOA COUNTED DUPL REAL CHANGE ============================================================ al 0 0 0 0 0 at 342 15490 357 15133 + 485 be 78 7204 130 7074 + 608 bg 3 22 6 16 0 by 0 0 0 0 0 ch 168 32536 179 32357 - 2995 cs 86 2943 50 2893 - 41 cy 5 33 1 32 + 2 cz 109 4560 93 4467 + 349 de 1556 118295 6676 111619 + 5428 dk 133 8528 169 8359 + 225 dz 1 0 0 0 0 ee 22 439 2 437 + 47 eg 4 10 0 10 0 es 302 14254 105 14149 + 2140 fi 313 33766 681 33085 + 787 fo 1 0 0 0 0 fr 699 54613 848 53765 + 4578 gb 1 17 0 17 0 ge 1 0 0 0 0 gr 92 1994 263 1731 + 200 hr 28 341 3 338 + 219 hu 41 3068 18 3050 + 336 ie 52 2376 60 2316 + 109 is 46 1769 8 1761 + 170 it 468 16630 338 16292 + 455 il 119 6344 54 6290 + 339 li 2 17 0 17 0 lt 1 0 0 0 0 lu 19 296 2 294 + 9 lv 2 59 0 59 + 6 ma 1 0 0 0 0 mk 1 0 0 0 0 mt 1 0 0 0 0 nl 456 44206 455 43751 + 1072 no 479 30939 266 30673 + 1023 pl 233 5076 202 4874 + 435 pt 107 3591 59 3532 + 50 ro 10 67 0 67 + 39 se 533 41372 451 40921 + 101 si 14 616 4 612 + 52 sk 14 355 4 351 - 429 su 154 1521 90 1431 + 107 tn 1 0 0 0 0 tr 22 529 6 523 - 86 ua 39 200 17 183 + 10 uk 841 122585 11709 110876 + 3826 va 0 0 0 0 0 yu 1 2 0 2 0 ============================================================ 7601 576663 23306 553357 +19656 This is an overview of the History of the RIPE hostcounts. It only contains the totals. The totals for 1990-1991 should be considered rather unstable and unreliable because the program used then was not really tuned, plus the count was not done as regular as it is now. Count : total hostcount for all European top level domains Delta : delta since previous count Delta % : delta as percentage of previous count Q Delta : delta over the past quarter Q Delta%: delta over last quarter as percentage of end of last quarter count For the Q Deltas I have not calculated those back before 1992, because the figures for 1990-1991 are not too reliable. *) Dec 1991 hostcount estimated at 135,000. Count Delta Delta % Q Delta Q Delta % ------------------------------------------------------------------- Oct 1990 31724 Nov 1990 33665 + 1941 + 6.1% Dec 1990 29230 - 4435 - 13.2% Jan 1991 43832 + 14602 + 50.0% Feb 1991 - Mar 1991 44506 + 674 + 1.5% Apr 1991 46948 + 2442 + 5.5% May 1991 - Jun 1991 63267 + 16319 + 34.8% Jul 1991 - Aug 1991 73069 + 9802 + 15.5% Sep 1991 92834 + 19765 + 27.0% Oct 1991 104824 + 11990 + 12.9% Nov 1991 129652 + 24828 + 23.7% Dec 1991 - Jan 1992 141308 + 11656 + 9.0% Feb 1992 161434 + 20126 + 14.2% Mar 1992 167939 + 6505 + 4.0% + 32939 *) + 24.4% *) Apr 1992 170050 + 2111 + 1.3% May 1992 182528 + 12478 + 7.3% Jun 1992 196758 + 14230 + 7.8% + 28819 + 17.2% Jul 1992 213017 + 16259 + 8.3% Aug 1992 221951 + 8934 + 4.2% Sep 1992 232522 + 10571 + 4.8% + 35764 + 18.2% Oct 1992 254585 + 22063 + 9.5% Nov 1992 271795 + 17210 + 6.8% Dec 1992 284374 + 12579 + 4.6% + 51852 + 22.3% Jan 1993 303828 + 19454 + 6.8% Feb 1993 322902 + 19074 + 6.3% Mar 1993 355140 + 32238 + 10.0% + 70766 + 24.9% Apr 1993 366164 + 11024 + 3.1% May 1993 385522 + 19358 + 5.3% Jun 1993 404930 + 19408 + 5.0% + 49790 + 14.0% Jul 1993 426827 + 21897 + 5.4% Aug 1993 451116 + 24289 + 5.7% Sep 1993 469356 + 18240 + 4.0% + 64424 + 15.9% Oct 1993 500018 + 30662 + 6.5% Nov 1993 533701 + 33683 + 6.7% Dec 1993 553357 + 19656 + 3.7% + 84001 + 17.9%

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Announcement of the Stockholm D-GIX pilot node.
by Bernhard Stockman 27 Dec '93

27 Dec '93

ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE SWEDISH ROUTING LABORATORY AND THE STOCKHOLM D-GIX PILOT NODE We have herewith the pleasure to announce resources will be made available from the Swedish Technical Development Board for the establishment of a routing laboratory at the Royal Institute of Technology (KTH) in Stockholm, Sweden. Routing in the fast growing Internet is becoming a more and more complex affair. There is an urgent need to develop new routing techniques to cope with this growth. The Network Operation Center at the Royal Institute of Technology in Stockholm, Sweden, has, by being intensively active in the area of building and maintaining large international networks such as NORDUnet and EBONE, achieved a recognized high degree of competence in advanced routing techniques. A first step towards a coordinated global routing was taken with the installation of the Global Internet eXchange (GIX) in Washington DC during 1991. Since first installed, the Washington DC GIX have faced an increased participation and traffic. The number and connectivity complexity of network service providers, especially with the commercialization of Internet services, has grown rapidly beyond the capability of one single interconnection point. As a result a distribution of the GIX concept has been discussed with the ambition to secure a stable, ubiquitous and homogeneous global network infrastructure. With the distribution of the GIX concept, regional interconnection points at various levels will be established creating the need for a layered framework of interconnections points or, with another name, Internet eXchange Facilities (IXF). Pieces of the IXF technology have, however, yet to be developed. The Swedish Routing Laboratory sees as one of its main tasks to participate in and stimulate the development of the IXF technology by the installation and maintenance of routing testbeds where routing concepts can be tested under controlled connectivity conditions. As a first step towards a fully developed IXF system the distributed GIX (D-GIX) has been proposed. The Swedish Routing Laboratory will, as one of its first activities, be in charge of the set up, management and evaluation of a D-GIX pilot node in Stockholm. Starting at January 1, 1994, a pilot D-GIX installation node in Stockholm will be made available for connections from interested European network service providers. The goal is to be able to handle production quality service already during January 1994, using an initial layered IXF structure. A second pilot node is under construction in Paris and will be announced when ready for connections. For more information on the GIX and D-GIX concepts please see the reference list at the bottom of this announcement. For those interested in participating in the Stockholm D-GIX pilot node, please contact any of the authors to this announcement. It shall here be noted this is a pilot with the intention of testing out necessary technology to be used in the coming distributed GIX/IXF framework. For this reason participation in this pilot requires close collaboration with the other GIX partners to secure a stable high quality service. On behalf of the Swedish Routing Laboratory, Peter Lothberg Email: roll(a)Stupi.se Phone: +46 8 790-6514 Fax: +46 8 241179 Royal Institute of Technology Drottning Kristinas Vag 37B S-100 44 Stockholm, Sweden. Bernhard Stockman Email: boss(a)ebone.net Phone: +46 8 790-6519 Fax: +46 8 241179 Royal Institute of Technology Drottning Kristinas Vag 37B S-100 44 Stockholm, Sweden. REFERENCES: 1. Proposal for Global Internet Connectivity Guy Almes, Peter Ford, and Peter Lothberg 12 June 1992 Anonymous ftp from nic.nordu.net in directory iepg. As ascii text or PostScript 2. Representation of IP Routing Policies in the RIPE Database Tony Bates, Jean-Michel Jouanigot, Daniel Karrenberg, Peter Lothberg, Marten Terpstra. (ripe-81). February, 1993 Anonymous ftp from ftp.ripe.net in directory ripe/docs/ripe-docs As ascii text or PostScript 3. Internet Routing in a Multi Provider, Multi Path Open Environment Tony Bates, Daniel Karrenberg, Peter Lothberg, Bernhard Stockman and Marten Terpstra. (ripe-82). Anonymous ftp from ftp.ripe.net in directory ripe/docs/ripe-docs As ascii text or PostScript 4. DRAFT Distributed GIX Specification Haavard Eidnes, November 24 1993. Anonymous ftp from nic.nordu.net in directory iepg. As PostScript only.

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European Engineering and Planning Group Annoucement
by Bernhard Stockman 27 Dec '93

27 Dec '93

Dear European Networkers, At the previous RIPE meeting it was decided to host the European Engineering and Planning Group (EEPG) as a working group within RIPE. Find below information on the EEPG terms of reference and the installed mailing list. EEPG will meet for the first time at the January RIPE meeting and an agenda will be sent out during first half of January. If you have suggestions for the agenda please fell free to propose such items to the EEPG mailing list. One item that certainly will be on the agenda is the coming D-GIX implementation. A Happy New Year to You All, Bernhard Stockman EEPG chair. ===================================================================== TERMS OF REFERENCE FOR EUROPEAN ENGINEERING AND PLANNING GROUP (EEPG) Bernhard Stockman December 27, 1993 The European Engineering and Planning Group is the platform for the engineering and deployment planning of the European part of the Internet. The Internet shall here be seen in a broader sense not just networks based on the TCP/IP protocol suite. EEPG will be active in the area of operational planning and engineering among various network service providers. EEPG will work in close liaison with the Intercontinental Enginering and Planning Group (IEPG) and bring attention to IEPG key activities as relevant within the European networking environment. EEPG can thus be seen as the European branch of the IEPG and European participation in the IEPG will be drawn from EEPG. EEPG is open for anyone but is mainly intended for operational planning and engineering among network service providers. RIPE, being the organization for coordination of European network services, is the adequate framework for the EEPG. EEPG will thus have the form of a RIPE Working Group and meet in conjunction with general RIPE meetings, currently three times a year. With the recent development and growth of the global network environment and the foreseen problems in maintaining an ubiquitous and homogeneous global network infrastructure the EEPG sees as its role to to identify and prioritize key activities of a technical nature which have a direct impact on the European and worldwide networking environment. For this reason EEPG will: - propose solutions for an optimized interconnectivity infrastrucutre among European network service providers with the ambition of securing maximal connectivity and flexibility in terms of engineering and management. With the increasing number of international network service providers, the maintenance and improvement of pan-European and global connectivity is an obvious challenge. - propose coordinated deployment of basic distributed network applications. The overall future of the global networking infrastructure is dependent on our common ability to evolve the collection of basic applications in the direction of enhanced quality and reliability of services. - propose practices and methods for efficient fault isolation and recovery as well as coordinated information dissemination in the area of network management. The focus here is to advocate the necessity of basic common operational methodologies and procedures within each network provider's operational domain to ensure that the user community can be serviced with a seamless end to end capability with appropriate mechanisms to ensure overall quality and reliability of the offered service. This area explicitly includes Network Information Center (NIC) and Network Operations Center (NOC) interaction. An EEPG work-plan will be maintained describing current areas of interest and priorities. The work-plan will from time to time be updated and documented to reflect changes of focus. ===================================================================== The EEPG mailing list The list has been created as <eepg-wg(a)ripe.net>. Current members from the signup sheet as below. People can subscribe and unsubscribe by sending mail to <majordomo(a)ripe.net>. Sending "help" in the message body will provide a help menu. The informational text and the current membership are listed below. The list is archived. Archive files are available via majordomo. =============================================================== >>>> info eepg-wg Information about mailing list <eepg-wg(a)ripe.net>: This is the mailing list of the European Engineering and Planning Group which is currently being set up. The group is expected to be formally established at the RIPE meeting on 24-26 January 1994. The draft ToR can be found in the archive. Membership of this mailing list is open. This mailing list is archived since December 22nd 1993. For more information contact <ncc(a)ripe.net>. [Last updated Wed Dec 22 16:02:10 1993] >>>> who eepg-wg Members of list 'eepg-wg': RIPE NCC <staff(a)ripe.net> # Antonio Blasco Bonito <bonito(a)nis.garr.it> Erik-Jan Bos <bos(a)surfnet.nl> Daniele Bovio <hi(a)frors12.bitnet> Graca Carvalho <graca(a)uminho.pt> Havard Eidnes <Havard.Eidnes(a)runit.sintef.no> Stefan Fassbender <stf(a)nis.easi.net> Peter Ford <peter(a)goshawk.lanl.gov> Elise Gerich <epg(a)merit.edu> Herluf Hansen <hha(a)tbit.dk> Hakan Hansson <hh(a)tip.net> Ian Harding <ih(a)chernikeeff.co.uk> Willi Huber <huber(a)sitch.ch> Avgust Jauk <jauk(a)ijs.si> Phil Jones <p.jones(a)jnt.ac.uk> Tomaz Kalin <kalin(a)rare.nl> Lars-Johan Liman <liman(a)sunet.se> Joseph Michl <michl(a)belwue.dbp.de> Svend Moeller Nielsen <smn(a)tbit.dk> Dave Morton <dave(a)ecrc.de> Arnold Nipper <nipper(a)xlink.net> Mike Norris <mnorris(a)dalkey.hea.ie> Petri Ojala <ojala(a)eu.net> Juergen Rauschenbach <rauschenbach(a)dfn.de> Joyce Reynolds <jkrey(a)isi.edu> Duncan Rogerson <D.Rogerson(a)noc.ulcc.ac.uk> Giuseppe Romano <romano(a)cnuce.cnr.it> Martijn Roos Lindgreen <martijn(a)nluug.nl> Miguel Sanz <miguel.a.sanz(a)iris-dcp.es> Don Stikvoort <stikvoort(a)surfnet.nl> Bernhard Stockman <boss(a)sunet.se> Juliana Tamorri <tamorri(a)nis.garr.it> Geza Turchanyi <h2064tur(a)ella.hu> Willem van der Scheun <scheun(a)sara.nl> Daniele Vannozzi <vannozzi(a)nis.garr.it> Marcel Wiget <wiget(a)chx400.switch.ch> >>>> index eepg-wg total 0 -rw-rw-rw- 1 majordom 0 Dec 22 16:00 current

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IETF nominations committee
by Erik Huizer (SURFnet BV) 23 Dec '93

23 Dec '93

In March next year half of the current IAB and the current IESG positions are up for nominations. Currently there is one European in the IAB (Christian Huitema) and one in the IESG (me). I think that is too little of a European involvement, and we need to get more Europeans involved. So I plead with you all to help in achieving this, at least if you are supportive of the IETF. There are two ways you can help: 1) put your name up for the nominations committee. This committee is soon to be installed and will be drawn at random from those who volunteer. The committee will propose the candidates for the IAB and IESG. It is very important in my view that we get enough European names in "the hat" before they start to draw this committee. For more details see the message below. 2) put your name up for nomination into the IESG or IAB. We need good people there. I realise that this is not a simple request, but if you even think you might be interested and want more info on such a "job" (no payment involved :-), don't hesitate to contact me. Prettige Kerstdagen en een gelukkig 1994, Erik ------- Forwarded Message Date: Wed, 22 Dec 93 20:11:13 -0500 From: "Vinton G. Cerf" <vcerf(a)CNRI.Reston.VA.US> To: ietf(a)CNRI.Reston.VA.US, internauts:;, isoc-interest(a)relay.sgi.com Subject: IAB/IESG Nominations Committee Chairman Appointed Dear Internauts and Internet Community members, I am pleased to announce that Fred Baker of ACC, Inc., has accepted the responsibility to chair the 1994 IAB/IESG nominations committee. This is, as always, an ambitious undertaking and now it is your responsibility to accept your own professional responsibilities to assist in any way you can. 1. Persons who have attended at least 2 IETF meetings in the last 5 years are eligible to volunteer to serve on the nominations committee. Volunteers should send email to: fbaker(a)acc.com with appropriate contact information (email address, work telephone, work fax, home telephone, home fax, postal address for any correspondence). The list of volunteers will be verified as to qualification using the IETF secretariat attendance records at CNRI. A nominations committee will be formed from a randomly selected subset of the qualified volunteers. 2. Paul Mockapetris and Jeff Case are acting as advisors (to serve as "corporate memory" of the 1993 committee). It is vital to identify qualified committee candidates from all constituents of the Internet community, especially those from outside the US since this segment is not always adequately represented. A list of IESG positions to be filled and IAB positions to be reconsidered will be published shortly. Please give serious consideration to possible candidates to fill these posts and make these suggestions known to Fred, who will share them with the committee. I wish each of you a most joyous holiday season and prosperous new year! Cordially, Vint Cerf President Internet Society ------- End of Forwarded Message

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by CEARN.CERN.CH!MARTIN＠cearn.cern.ch 21 Dec '93

21 Dec '93

Please note that deliverable 2 of the BETEL project (Test Report) is now available via anonymous ftp from dxcoms.cern.ch as well as miscellaneous other documents related to the project: /pub/betel/betel-d02.ps (420970 bytes) /pub/betel/betel-d02.ps.Z (158144 bytes) The document is fairly big (50 pages), and was converted to Postscript from Words 5.0 on a Mac. It has also been successfully printed on an Apple Laser Writer printer. BETEL is one of the 4 projets selected in DIVON as a result of the DION call for proposals, and the short summary below has already been posted onto various distribution lists. Olivier, H. Martin - CERN CN Division ------------------------------------- ..................................... I2003 - BETEL (Boadband Exchange over Trans-European Links) ----------------------------------------------------------- The aim of the BETEL project is to demonstrate over optical fiber links multimedia applications with high data rate transmissions. The optical platform interconnects CERN (Geneva), IN2P3 (Lyon), EPFL (Lausanne) and Eurecom (Sophia Antipolis) since September 1993. Olivier

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Document Anncouncement: Procedures for DNS Delegation in the IN-ADDR.ARPA Domain
by Daniel Karrenberg 06 Dec '93

06 Dec '93

Apologies to everyone for the not completely processed version of the previous announcement. Daniel New/Revised RIPE Document Announcement -------------------------------------- A revised document is available from the RIPE document store. Ref: ripe-105 Title: Procedures for DNS Delegation in the IN-ADDR.ARPA Domain Author: Daniel Karrenberg, Marten Terpstra Date: 6 December 1993 Format: PS=33719 TXT=11597 Bytes Obsoletes: ripe-85 Obsoleted by: Updates: Updated by: Short content description ------------------------- This document describes the procedures for the delegation of zones in European subdomains of IN-ADDR.ARPA. FTP Access ---------- All RIPE documents and Internet RFC`s are available via anonymous FTP from host ftp.ripe.net. Type "ftp ftp.ripe.net". Login with username "anonymous" supplying your email address as the password. After logging in, type "cd ripe/docs/ripe-docs" followed by the command "get filename". The relevant filenames for this document are: ripe-105.txt for the ASCII version ripe-105.ps for the PostScript version Electronic Mail Retrieval of Documents -------------------------------------- Documents can also be retrieved from the RIPE document store using a mail server program. For more information on how to use the program, send email to: mail-server(a)ripe.net with "send HELP" in the body text. RIPE NCC Interactive Information Server --------------------------------------- Type "telnet info.ripe.net". This is a menu driven service allows the document store to be browsed. After reading documents you are prompted as to whether you would like to receive an email copy of the document you have just read. If you would, you simply enter your email address and the document will be mailed to you. Below are details of alternative methods of access. Gopher Access ------------- The same documents are available via a "gopher" server at "gopher gopher.ripe.net". WAIS Access ----------- There is also a "WAIS" server at wais.ripe.net, where there is a WAIS index for RIPE documents "ripe-docs.src" WWW Access ---------- For those who wish to add this home page at the RIPE NCC to their own customized home pages, it can be accessed as: http://www.ripe.net MIME Mail Reader ---------------- Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant Mail Reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the RIPE document. SEND ripe/docs/ripe-docs/ripe-105.txt

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