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Russia
by Ronald F. Guilmette 16 Aug '22

16 Aug '22

An interesting observation, and a question: Nearly six months ago now, on February 24th of this year, Russia began a "special military operation" against the sovereign nation of Ukraine. Since that time, fully three quarters of the member nations of the United Nations voted to condemn this unprovoked military action, and numerous nations in both Europe and all around the world have adopted extreme sanctions against Russia in response it its actions in Ukraine. These sanctions cover the gamut of economically important trade relations, including energy, banking, and high-technology goods. Despite all of the foregoing, I have just checked the archives for this mailing list for the past six months and it appears that in all of these past six months there has not even been so much as a single mention of Russia or the Ukraine War, or the ongoing threats coming out of Russia against NATO nations, EU nations, and European nations generally. Why? Are all members of the Internet community in the RIPE region so reluncant to even mention the word "Russia" because you all hope to just keep doing business as usual, even as Europe is plunged into the most destructive and deadly military conflict since the Second World War? Are all of you so completely focused on your bottom lines that you can turn a blind eye to the daily slaughter of innocent civilians, including children, in Ukraine? To put it another way: What exactly *is* the excuse of the RIPE region membership as it does its level best to pretend that there isn't even a European war going on? The best analogy I can think of is the Swiss during the NAZI era. It appears that, As long as the gold keeps coming in, everybody's happy. Regards, rfg P.S. I fully expect this post will be censored, because apparently nobody in Europe wants to even talk about all of the helpful network interconnections that are being supplied by EU/NATO nations to Russia, even after six months of unprovoked carnage and more than 10,000 Ukrainian's dead and 10 million displaced. That's OK. The European Internet community can continue to pretend that nothing has happened, and go on with business as usual, but the world knows better, and history will not forget the self-serving cowardice of the RIPE community in this time of deadly conflict.

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Re: [ripe-list] Russia
by Petra.Zeidler＠dlr.de 16 Aug '22

16 Aug '22

Good localtime(), Just for curiosities sake, are you this Ronald Guilmette? https://krebsonsecurity.com/tag/ron-guilmette/ Otherwise: yes, there is no pan-European Operators Group. As far as I'm informed, despite its name, NANOG does not cover Mexico, so the idea of a NOG covering mostly the language area it's in is not that absurdly novel. So reaching all European NOGs would be work, but it wouldn't be very useful work, since the people populating either RIPE lists or the NOG lists are usually not the ones that could decide to break contracts, unless the entity is not a very large one. best regards, Petra Zeidler

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Fwd: [Mten-workshop-pc] [arch-d] Call for Papers: IAB workshop on Management Techniques in Encrypted Networks (M-TEN)
by Mirja Kuehlewind 09 Aug '22

09 Aug '22

Dear RIPE community, The IAB is organising a workshop on Management Techniques in Encrypted Networks (M-TEN) which might be of interest for you! Please consider submitting a contribution! Find the details below and on the IAB webpage! Thanks! Mirja > Begin forwarded message: > > From: IAB Executive Administrative Manager <execd(a)iab.org <mailto:execd@iab.org>> > Subject: [arch-d] Call for Papers: IAB workshop on Management Techniques in Encrypted Networks (M-TEN) > Date: 9. July 2022 at 00:15:11 CEST > To: "IETF Announcement List" <ietf-announce(a)ietf.org <mailto:ietf-announce@ietf.org>> > Cc: architecture-discuss(a)ietf.org <mailto:architecture-discuss@ietf.org> > Reply-To: mten-workshop-pc(a)iab.org <mailto:mten-workshop-pc@iab.org> > > IAB workshop on Management Techniques in Encrypted Networks (M-TEN) > > Web page: https://www.iab.org/activities/workshops/m-ten/ <https://www.iab.org/activities/workshops/m-ten/> > > User privacy and security are constantly being improved by increasingly > strong and more widely deployed encryption. This workshop aims to > discuss ways to improve network management techniques in support of even > broader adoption of encryption on the Internet. > > Network management techniques need to evolve to work effectively and > reliably in the presence of ubiquitous traffic encryption and support > techniques that enhance user privacy. In an all-encrypted network, it is > not viable to rely on unencrypted metadata for network monitoring and > security functions, troubleshooting devices, and passive traffic > measurements. New approaches are needed to track network behaviors, > e.g., by directly cooperating with endpoints and applications, > increasing use of in-band telemetry, increasing use of active > measurement approaches, and privacy-preserving inference techniques. > > The aim of this workshop is to provide a platform to explore the > interaction between network management and traffic encryption and > initiate new work on collaborative approaches that promote security and > user privacy while supporting operational requirements. As such the > workshop aims to address the following questions: > > • What are actionable network management requirements? > • Who is willing to work on collaborative solutions? > • What are the starting points for collaborative solutions? > > The following topics are considered in-scope; however, this list is non- > exhaustive: > > • Actionable requirements for network management, including: > - Troubleshooting needs > - Metrics for network performance measurements > - Requirements for security functions > • Proposals or reports on improvements to network management > - Ways to support evolving, encrypted traffic better > - Measurement techniques for encrypted traffic > - New privacy-preserving active measurement methods > - Direct communication with endpoints or applications > - Secure and privacy-preserving data collection, storage, and sharing > - Adoption of encryption for the management functions themselves > > Interested participants are invited to submit position papers on the > workshop topics; it may take the form of an Internet-Draft. Paper size > is not limited, but brevity is encouraged. Interested participants who > have published relevant academic papers may submit these as a position > paper, optionally with a short abstract explaining their interest and > the paper’s relevance to the workshop. The workshop itself will be > focused on discussions based on the position paper topics received. > > All inputs submitted and considered relevant will be published on the > workshop website. The organizers will issue invitations based on the > submissions received. Sessions will be organized according to content, > and not every accepted submission or invited attendee will have an > opportunity to present; the intent is to foster an active discussion and > not simply to have a sequence of presentations. A workshop report > covering all submissions and the workshop discussion will be published > afterwards. > > The workshop will be by invitation only. Those wishing to attend should > submit a position paper to the address above topics and questions. > Position papers from those not planning to attend the workshop > themselves are also encouraged. > > Please indicate your interest by submitting a research proposal by > August 19, 2022 to mten-workshop-pc(a)iab.org <mailto:mten-workshop-pc@iab.org> > > The Program Committee members are Wes Hardaker (IAB, USC/ISI), Mallory > Knodel (IAB, Center for Democracy and Technology), Mirja Kühlewind (IAB, > Ericsson), Tommy Pauly (IAB, Apple), Russ White (IAB, Juniper), Qin Wu > (IAB, Huawei). > > Feel free to contact the program committee with any further questions: > mten-workshop-pc(a)iab.org <mailto:mten-workshop-pc@iab.org> > > This workshop will be held remotely during the week of Oct 17-21, 2022, > likely supporting three 2-3h sessions spread over the week based on > submissions and the availability of the invited participants. > Additionally, an in-person wrap-up or dissemination session may be > organized in co-location with RIPE85 (Belgrade, Serbia) on Monday Oct 24 > if there is sufficient interest by the participants. Please indicate > with your submission if you are interested in this option. > > Logistics > > • Submissions Due: Aug 19, 2022 > • Invitations Issued by: Sep 2, 2022 > • Workshop Date: Oct 17-21, 2022, optionally Oct 24 > • Location: Online, optionally one day Belgrade, Serbia > > _______________________________________________ > Architecture-discuss mailing list > Architecture-discuss(a)ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/architecture-discuss -- Mten-workshop-pc mailing list Mten-workshop-pc(a)iab.org https://www.iab.org/mailman/listinfo/mten-workshop-pc

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Reminder - RIPE NCC Community Projects Fund - Apply now.
by projectsfund＠ripe.net 02 Aug '22

02 Aug '22

Dear colleagues, I hope you are keeping well. For the sixth year in a row, the RIPE NCC is committed to supporting activities and projects for 'the good of the Internet'. We are pleased to invite applications for funding from the RIPE NCC Community Projects Fund. Through this initiative, the RIPE NCC distributes up to EUR 250,000 per year to support projects of value to the operation, resilience and sustainability of the Internet, with a focus on tools and services benefitting the technical community in Europe, the Middle East and Central Asia. Please don’t forget the deadline for this year's call for applications is Sunday, 7 August 23:59 (UTC+2) https://www.ripe.net/support/cpf/call-for-applications <https://www.ripe.net/support/cpf/call-for-applications> Kind Regards, Alastair Strachan RIPE NCC

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Fellowship at RIPE 85 - Apply Now
by Vesna Manojlovic 01 Aug '22

01 Aug '22

Dear colleagues, We are now accepting applications for the RIPE Fellowship at RIPE 85 in Belgrade (24-28 October 2022): https://ripe85.ripe.net/diversity Having participants with diverse backgrounds, expertise, opinions and experiences enriches RIPE Community. The RIPE Fellowship aims to create opportunities for individuals from underrepresented regions, minority backgrounds, or others who would otherwise be unable to attend without funding, to participate in the RIPE Meetings. The RIPE Fellowship covers the cost of a meeting ticket, travel and accommodation for successful candidates in the RIPE NCC service region. Apply now: https://www.ripe.net/participate/forms/apply/ripe-85-fellowship/ *The application deadline is Wednesday, 31 August 2022* More information: https://www.ripe.net/fellowship Warm regards, Vesna Manojlovic -- Senior Community Builder, RIPE NCC Working times: Monday-Thursday 10-16 CEST https://labs.ripe.net/author/becha/

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New on RIPE Labs: Journeying into XDP Part 2: XDPerimenting with DNS Telemetry
by Anastasiya Pak 28 Jul '22

28 Jul '22

Dear colleagues, Luuk Hendriks and colleagues looked into a passive BPF-program that enables to plot graphs of DNS metrics without altering the DNS packets or touching the DNS software itself. Follow their journey on RIPE Labs: https://labs.ripe.net/author/luuk_hendriks/journeying-into-xdp-part-2-xdper… Best regards, Anastasiya Pak Marketing & Communications Officer RIPE NCC

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Moderation: what to expect
by Niall O'Reilly 28 Jul '22

28 Jul '22

Dear colleagues, I want to let you know how the RIPE Chair Team is dealing with moderation of this list. Responsibility for moderation lies with Mirjam and me. NCC staff are available to help if we need support. One of us will inspect the pending message queue daily or more frequently. If we notice any offensive or *ad personam/mulierem/hominem* material in a message, that message will simply be discarded, without explanation, negotiation, or apology. We don't intend to agonize over "how bad" the troublesome material is. If you will all keep your postings strictly on topic, you will make our task easier. Thank you all in anticipation of your co-operation. Best regards, Niall O'Reilly RIPE Vice-Chair

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New on the RIPE Labs Podcast: The Case for Revitalising Internet Governance
by Alun Davies 27 Jul '22

27 Jul '22

Dear colleagues, Are the organisations that form the Internet governance ecosystem failing to rise to new challenges the modern Internet has created? And if so, what steps need to be taken in order to revitalise Internet governance? In this new episode of the RIPE Labs podcast, my colleague Chris Buckridge and I discuss these questions in detail with Kieren McCarthy, journalist and author of the paper ‘Revitalising Global Internet Governance’: https://labs.ripe.net/author/alun_davies/the-case-for-revitalising-internet… Best regards, Alun Davies RIPE Labs Editor RIPE NCC

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Re: [ripe-list] Continued Moderation of RIPE Discussion List
by Petra.Zeidler＠dlr.de 26 Jul '22

26 Jul '22

Dear List, all of those who have been on Usenet will recognize this kind of disruptive behavior, and then it was only about rubber points and not about "resource extracting" from a commons (IPv4 addresses) that happen to be both scarce and expensive by now. I would not at all be surprised if none of the sender accounts map to real people (i.e. it's probably all sockpuppets). The point is not the "opinion" per se but to break the process - in this case the RIRs - by sowing dissent and drowning everything in a flood of filth. The originators are neither sophisticated nor particularly original. Moderation helps a lot, even if it puts undue load on the moderators. Kind regards, Petra Zeidler

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Continued Moderation of RIPE Discussion List
by Mirjam Kühne 25 Jul '22

25 Jul '22

Dear colleagues, As I explained in my previous message, moderation was enabled on the RIPE List on Saturday following an offensive email that was posted to the list. https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-list/2022-July/002580.html Following this, myself and others who posted to the list received further offensive emails and were subjected to attacks on our email inboxes. We want to ensure that people can post safely to the list. In the meantime we will keep moderation activated. The RIPE Chair Team will moderate the mails that are sent to the list while this is active. The RIPE NCC is also investigating the legal implications of leaving offensive content on the list archives. Together with the community, I would like to discuss how we can ensure that our mailing lists remain open and enable fruitful conversations but also protect people from harm and abusive behaviour. We will arrange an online session where we can explore together where the balance should lie between these two important requirements. I will send further details in the coming weeks. Kind regards, Mirjam Kühne RIPE Chair

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