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A small announcement (apologies if slightly inappropriate for list)
by Tony Bates 06 Jan '95

06 Jan '95

As many of you have probably guessed, I am now working full time in the US for MCI. I just wanted to take this opportunity to thank many many of you for helping to make my time working at the RIPE NCC on the joint projects (and specifically PRIDE) an extremely enjoyable and productive two years. Unfortunately, I will not be able to attend the forthcoming RIPE meeting so I'll miss my chance to do the limericks WG report ;-) and say farewell. So to all, Happy new year and see you on the net..... Regards, --Tony.

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Status of ns.ripe.net
by Geert Jan de Groot 06 Jan '95

06 Jan '95

[Sorry if you receive this message twice, but I think it is useful to many] Hi, During the last couple of weeks we have been shuffling around with public service machines. This is done to allow for some software upgrades, some hardware changes and various other reasons. In the past we had one machine, ns.ripe.net, that operated as whois database machine, RIPE document store, FTP server, WWW server, interactive services server and various other tasks. It's IP address was 192.87.45.1 In the new situation, (and the migration to that), I am shuffling services around and will continue to do so as time allows till the upgrade is complete. Services will be split on multiple machines depending on the type of service. During this period, I will take measures to make sure that the RR's as found in the DNS will point to the correct machine, and try to install 'answer machines' on IPnumber/port numbers that are not in use anymore. i.e. if you use ns.ripe.net for anonymous FTP, then this might fail (in fact, it does currently), while using ftp.ripe.net does work correctly. It is for this reason that we publish Well Known Names like ftp.ripe.net, info.ripe.net, gopher.ripe.net, ns.ripe.net, www.ripe.net, etc. We will no longer use the old IP address 192.87.45.1 However, system logging learns that activity on old, not-supported combinations (such as above) is not diminishing, even now most of these activities fail. I fear that there are some people that have hardcoded the IP address, or use the wrong hostname for various servers and hyperlinks (such as WWW and gopher links). Also mirrorring still happens quite a lot on the old hostnames (FYI, some versions of mirror fails silently if the FTP connect itself fails) Can you please grep your system configurations and look for: - using the IP address 192.87.45.1, e.g. as DNS forwarder (the 'new' ns.ripe.net does not support recursive lookups so you have to look for something else; DNS forwarding was never an official service), or as DNS primary for a zone you run secondary for; - Usage of 'ns.ripe.net' for anything but DNS, such as FTP or telnet; - Have DNS A glue records for ns.ripe.net in one of your primary zone files (please remove them; you do not need them). - Use the RIPE NCC machines for NTP services (also unsupported) - Have packet filters on 192.87.45.0/24 - Use anything but whois.ripe.net (or nl-whois.ripe.net) for whois services; - Incorrect gopherlinks / WWW links; - Use of any hardcoded IP address to locate RIPE NCC services; - Other similar cases. ... and fix them as you find them. If you have specific requirements or are hampered by these changes, please contact me so we can work something out, but I need to know about these so I can inform you if something changes outside of our published services. Also, in case of questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you, Geert Jan

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REMINDER RIPE Meeting -- REMINDER RIPE Meeting -- REMINDER RIPE Meeting
by RIPE NCC Staff 04 Jan '95

04 Jan '95

Dear Attendees, If you are planning to attend the coming RIPE meeting, please help us by registering for the meeting as soon as possible. This really helps in planning enough food, coffee and seats for everyone ie. if you want food register NOW :-) Below is a revised announcement for the meeting with pointers to all the information you need (which is in the document store), including information about hotels and the new public transport timetables. We plan to announce a draft agenda 2 weeks prior to the meeting. There will be a separate announcement next week about the RIPE Meeting Evening Dinner which will be held on Thursday 26th January. Kind regards, David Kessens RIPE NCC -------------------------------------------------------------------------- R I P E meeting announcement (reminder) ======================================= (This announcement can also be viewed using "finger meeting(a)ncc.ripe.net") This is to announce that the 20th RIPE meeting will take place: Dates: 25th January, 1995 begin: 09:00 26th January, 1995 27th January, 1995 end: 16:00 NOTE: as decided at the 19th RIPE meeting, a new format of the meeting schedule will be in place. This means that the Working Group and special interest group sessions will be scheduled for January 25 (full day) and January 26 (09:00-12:30). The plenary RIPE meeting will take place January 26 (14:00-18:00) and January 27 (09:00-16:00). Venue: CWI Kruislaan 413 1098 SJ Amsterdam The Netherlands Host: NIKHEF Registration: Please use the registration form to give notice of your coming as soon as possible. The Registration form can be obtained from : ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/Next-Meeting/ripe20.registration Agenda: The draft agenda will be published 2 weeks before the meeting starts. It will be available at : ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/Next-Meeting/ripe20.draft.agenda General Information: -------------------- Currency information (941214): 1 UK pound = Hfl 2.76 1 ECU = Hfl 2.14 1 US$ = Hfl 1.76 Details of hotels in Amsterdam close to meeting venue can be obtained from : ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/Next-Meeting/ripe20.hotels Directions to the meeting place - How do I get there : ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/Next-Meeting/ripe20.transport (This file is also appended to this document since it changed a lot) I recommend you also to take a look in the README and CHANGES file. The README file contains a short description about the files available in the ftp directory, the CHANGES file contains information about updates of the general information regarding the meeting : ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/Next-Meeting/README ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/Next-Meeting/CHANGES ================================================================== CWI/NIKHEF - The RIPE meeting venue: How do I get there? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To ease any possible confusion, two postscript maps can be found in the RIPE document store. One shows the bus and tram stops around the meeting site and the other is a more general map of the area. Both maps are available at: ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/Next-Meeting/area-map.ps ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/Next-Meeting/area-map.ps.Z ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/Next-Meeting/local.transport-map.ps ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/Next-Meeting/local.transport-map.ps.Z From Amsterdam airport (Schiphol): o Take the train from the airport railway station to the Central Railway station. From the Central Railway station: o Take tramway number 9 till the stop at the corner of Middenweg and Kruislaan (15 min ride) o Walk down the Kruislaan in the direction of the railway bridge. Cross under the bridge and continue. Take the 2nd entrance left and proceed to the entrance marked NIKHEF-H. (15 min walk all together). or o Take bus 22 in the direction 'Indische Buurt' to the stop at the 'Muiderpoort Station' and take bus 66. From the RAI Railway station: o From the RAI station take the city bus number 69 or CN bus number 169 in the direction `Amstel Station'. From the Amstel Railway station: o From the Amstel station take the city bus number 15 the direction `Muiderpoort Station' to the stop on the corner of Kruislaan and Linnaeusparkweg (15 min ride, ask the driver where to get of) or proceed to 'Muiderpoort Station' and take bus 66. o Walk down the Kruislaan in the direction of the railway bridge as described above. From the Muiderpoort Railway station: o Take bus 66. Taxi from the airport: o 15 min ride o fl. 50 appr. Other connections to and from the NIKHEF site: tram 6 from Leidseplein tram 10 to Leidseplein tram 14 to and from Dam Square bus 66 to and from Muiderpoortstation Timetable bus 66 >From Muiderpoortstation (Monday - Friday): 7.20 7.40 8.00 8.20 8.40 9.00 9.20 9.40 10.10 10.40 11.10 11.40 12.21 12.51 13.21 13.51 14.21 14.51 15.21 15.51 16.11 16.31 16.51 17.11 17.31 17.51 18.11 >From NIKHEF to Muiderpoortstation (Monday - Friday): 7.28 7.48 8.08 8.28 8.48 9.08 9.28 9.48 10.18 10.48 11.18 11.48 12.28 12.58 13.28 13.58 14.28 14.58 15.28 15.58 16.18 16.38 16.58 17.18 17.38 17.58 18.18 ===================================================================== Public Transport - how much does it cost and where can I get tickets? --------------------------------------------------------------------- Tickets of 15 strips (trippenkaart' costing Hfl. 11,-) can be bought in Post Offices, railway stations and cigarette shops. Tickets of 2 and 3 strips can be bought on the bus or the tram but they are much more expensive. You have to validate the ticket yourself in the metro stations and in the trams (except on lines 4, 6, 7, 10, 12 and 13). In the buses the driver will validate the ticket. Amsterdam is divided into zones: the old city is in zone entrum' whereas CWI is in zone st'. You need to count how many zones you will be travelling through (from the centre - CWI is 2 zones) and count up that number of strips on your ticket + 1 extra. So in the above example you will need to stamp the 3rd strip. In case of overflow you stamp the last strip of the first ticket and start counting the remaining strips on the next ticket. Confused? Ask any member of the local organizing committee. Warning: BEWARE of pickpockets in crowded places. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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IETF Report Abstract
by Jill.Foster＠newcastle.ac.uk 04 Jan '95

04 Jan '95

IETF - San Jose: December 5th - 9th, 1994 ========================================= Trip Report: Jill Foster - Newcastle University, UK TERENA Information Services and User Support Project Development Officer and Mailbase Manager This one of my last tasks as the RARE/Terena ISUS PDO - and kept me occupied over Christmas! Abstract ======== The IETF (Internet Engineering Task Force) met for a week in San Jose. The report deals mainly with the areas of User Support, Networked Information Retrieval and Directory Services, although reports of some of the plenary sessions are also included. This report is stored on the UK Mailbase Server. ftp://mailbase.ac.uk/pub/lists/wg-isus/files/ietf.12.94 It is also available via gopher and WWW from mailbase.ac.uk To retrieve a copy via email, send a message to: Mailbase(a)mailbase.ac.uk with the following command in the body of the message: send wg-isus ietf.12.94 -- Jill Foster

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RIPE DNS Hostcount December 1994
by Marten Terpstra 03 Jan '95

03 Jan '95

Happy 1995 everyone! Here is the last hostcount for 1994. We have made it. There are over 1,000,000 hosts registered in the DNS in Europe. - Austria (AT) has been added to the list of countries that collect the DNS data inside their own country and make it available to me to producde the hostcount statistics. - over the last quarter of 1994, the increase was over 140,000 hosts, or almost 16% - over the whole of 1994, the amount of hosts doubled from 553,000 to almost 1,030,000. That is slightly more than over 1993. - All output again available from: ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/hostcount/ Cheers, -Marten RIPE DNS Hostcount Previous Count : Wed Nov 30 1994 This Count : Sat Dec 31 1994 CY SOA COUNTED DUPL REAL CHANGE ============================================================ al 3 0 0 0 0 at 513 28300 996 27304 + 686 az 3 9 0 9 0 be 267 17705 282 17423 + 1087 bg 19 157 21 136 - 1 by 1 1 0 1 + 1 ch 329 50150 331 49819 + 1131 cs 0 0 0 0 0 cy 0 0 0 0 - 76 cz 184 10561 164 10397 - 5 de 2630 203231 4380 198851 + 8658 dk 268 18729 323 18406 + 1313 dz 2 10 0 10 + 2 ee 46 1163 9 1154 - 36 eg 6 154 1 153 + 8 es 490 27805 227 27578 + 2753 fi 559 69814 1552 68262 + 3458 fo 1 0 0 0 0 fr 1073 84665 1305 83360 + 9734 gb 1 26 0 26 + 2 ge 1 0 0 0 0 gr 164 3725 209 3516 + 117 hr 75 1242 198 1044 + 257 hu 105 6860 34 6826 - 656 ie 84 5553 67 5486 + 116 il 237 12929 293 12636 + 619 is 78 4559 32 4527 + 306 it 840 29326 956 28370 - 1413 li 4 30 3 0 - 27 lt 14 127 0 127 + 28 lu 32 511 5 506 - 26 lv 28 532 8 524 + 85 ma 1 0 0 0 0 mk 1 0 0 0 0 mt 1 0 0 0 0 nl 722 88373 2430 85943 + 4142 no 818 50137 1773 48364 + 4181 pl 421 11587 821 10766 + 1290 pt 118 5095 41 5054 - 331 ro 38 559 37 522 + 58 ru 214 1874 142 1732 + 182 se 991 76313 2249 74064 + 5060 si 99 1680 53 1627 + 129 sk 80 1445 29 1416 + 233 su 261 5090 285 4805 + 349 tn 3 60 6 54 0 tr 66 1918 35 1883 - 29 ua 71 613 84 529 + 133 uk 2640 248314 22254 226060 +12652 va 0 0 0 0 0 yu 3 0 0 0 0 ============================================================ 14605 1070932 41635 1029270 +56170 This is an overview of the History of the RIPE hostcounts. It only contains the totals. The totals for 1990-1991 should be considered rather unstable and unreliable because the program used then was not really tuned, plus the count was not done as regularly as it is now. Count : total hostcount for all European top level domains Delta : delta since previous count Delta % : delta as percentage of previous count Q Delta : delta over the past quarter Q Delta%: delta over last quarter as percentage of end of last quarter count For the Q Deltas I have not calculated those back before 1992, because the figures for 1990-1991 are not too reliable. *) Dec 1991 hostcount estimated at 135,000. Count Delta Delta % Q Delta Q Delta % ------------------------------------------------------------------- Oct 1990 31724 Nov 1990 33665 + 1941 + 6.1% Dec 1990 29230 - 4435 - 13.2% Jan 1991 43832 + 14602 + 50.0% Feb 1991 - Mar 1991 44506 + 674 + 1.5% Apr 1991 46948 + 2442 + 5.5% May 1991 - Jun 1991 63267 + 16319 + 34.8% Jul 1991 - Aug 1991 73069 + 9802 + 15.5% Sep 1991 92834 + 19765 + 27.0% Oct 1991 104824 + 11990 + 12.9% Nov 1991 129652 + 24828 + 23.7% Dec 1991 - Jan 1992 141308 + 11656 + 9.0% Feb 1992 161434 + 20126 + 14.2% Mar 1992 167939 + 6505 + 4.0% + 32939 *) + 24.4% *) Apr 1992 170050 + 2111 + 1.3% May 1992 182528 + 12478 + 7.3% Jun 1992 196758 + 14230 + 7.8% + 28819 + 17.2% Jul 1992 213017 + 16259 + 8.3% Aug 1992 221951 + 8934 + 4.2% Sep 1992 232522 + 10571 + 4.8% + 35764 + 18.2% Oct 1992 254585 + 22063 + 9.5% Nov 1992 271795 + 17210 + 6.8% Dec 1992 284374 + 12579 + 4.6% + 51852 + 22.3% Jan 1993 303828 + 19454 + 6.8% Feb 1993 322902 + 19074 + 6.3% Mar 1993 355140 + 32238 + 10.0% + 70766 + 24.9% Apr 1993 366164 + 11024 + 3.1% May 1993 385522 + 19358 + 5.3% Jun 1993 404930 + 19408 + 5.0% + 49790 + 14.0% Jul 1993 426827 + 21897 + 5.4% Aug 1993 451116 + 24289 + 5.7% Sep 1993 469356 + 18240 + 4.0% + 64424 + 15.9% Oct 1993 500018 + 30662 + 6.5% Nov 1993 533701 + 33683 + 6.7% Dec 1993 553357 + 19656 + 3.7% + 84001 + 17.9% Jan 1994 587135 + 33778 + 6.1% Feb 1994 623158 + 36023 + 6.1% Mar 1994 655164 + 32006 + 5.1% +101807 + 18.4% Apr 1994 693346 + 38182 + 5.8% May 1994 735317 + 41971 + 6.1% Jun 1994 760385 + 25076 + 3.4% +105221 + 16.1% Jul 1994 789747 + 29362 + 3.8% Aug 1994 834945 + 45198 + 5.7% Sep 1994 888398 + 53453 + 6.4% +128013 + 16.8% Oct 1994 924679 + 36281 + 4.1% Nov 1994 973100 + 48421 + 5.2% Dec 1994 1029270 + 56170 + 5.8% +140872 + 15.9%

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(Re-Revised) TERENA (was RARE) ISUS WG meeting minutes
by Jill.Foster＠newcastle.ac.uk 21 Dec '94

21 Dec '94

[Re-revised URL: Apologies for the *further* error and for assuming that you were all psychic. It was under the influence of influenza :-( (or at least a pretty horrible cold that seems to have got most people here.) I hope you find the minutes worth the fight! Have a peaceful Christmas and New Year. -- Jill] TERENA INFORMATION SERVICES AND USER SUPPORT WORKING GROUP (ISUS WG) The ISUS WG meeting was held in London on December 1st and 2nd, 1994. This is an open group with members working in the area of information services and user support from all around Europe. As only a small fraction of the group can ever make a face to face meeting (50 attended the London meeting), the minutes are deliberately written for those that were unable to attend. It therefore forms a good overview of some of the work going on in this area. The minutes may be found on the Terena document server: ftp://ftp.terena.nl/terena/working-groups/wg-isus/minutes/london-12-94 -- Jill Foster

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(Revised) TERENA (was RARE) ISUS WG meeting minutes
by Jill.Foster＠newcastle.ac.uk 19 Dec '94

19 Dec '94

[Revised URL - sorry about the typing error - it was my cold - not me!! - Jill] TERENA INFORMATION SERVICES AND USER SUPPORT WORKING GROUP (ISUS WG) The ISUS WG meeting was held in London on December 1st and 2nd, 1994. This is an open group with members working in the area of information services and user support from all around Europe. As only a small fraction of the group can ever make a face to face meeting (50 attended the London meeting), the minutes are deliberately written for those that were unable to attend. It therefore forms a good overview of some of the work going on in this area. The minutes may be found on the Terena document server: ftp://ftp.terena.nl/working-groups/wg-isus/minutes/london-12-94 -- Jill Foster

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TERENA (was RARE) ISUS WG meeting minutes
by Jill.Foster＠newcastle.ac.uk 19 Dec '94

19 Dec '94

TERENA INFORMATION SERVICES AND USER SUPPORT WORKING GROUP (ISUS WG) The ISUS WG meeting was held in London on December 1st and 2nd, 1994. This is an open group with members working in the area of information services and user support from all around Europe. As only a small fraction of the group can ever make a face to face meeting (50 attended the London meeting), the minutes are deliberately written for those that were unable to attend. It therefore forms a good overview of some of the work going on in this area. The minutes may be found on the Terena document server: ftp://ftp.terena.working-groups/wg-isus/minutes/london-12-94 -- Jill Foster

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Re: FIRST Europe ?
by Harald.T.Alvestrand＠uninett.no 18 Dec '94

18 Dec '94

Consider me corrected. We definitely need FSIG-Europe. We also need a CERT/CC that operates in European time and provides incident handling. I'll shut up now :-) Harald A

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Re: Fw: Re: DANTE CERT Service
by Philippe-Andre Prindeville 16 Dec '94

16 Dec '94

On Dec 16, 16:26, Piet Beertema wrote: > Subject: Re: Fw: Re: DANTE CERT Service > Are you kidding? Involving police/government might well become > counterproductive, since their ideas about (computer) security > are often a bit strange, to put it mildly. A clear case is the > proposal recently by the Dutch government for making encryption > effectively illegal; needless to say that this led to a storm > of protest and eventually to the withdrawal of the proposal; > and to the even more rapid spreading of PGP.... Sigh. Here in France, encryption devices (including software) are considered as "armes de guerre" -- weapons of war. It is a bit difficult to imagine a division of soldiers invading any country carrying encrypt(1) on diskettes, but nonetheless the requirements for possessing and using encryption mechanisms are the same as for a 7.62mm rifle. (It's also difficult to imagine an army being immobilized because their bicycles were confiscated, but that's another story ;-) War, and the mentality that comes with it, is often opposed to reason. Anyway, let's *not* involve the "authorities" in the CERT -- they are often reactionary. -Philip

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