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European Engineering and Planning Group Annoucement
by Bernhard Stockman 27 Dec '93

27 Dec '93

Dear European Networkers, At the previous RIPE meeting it was decided to host the European Engineering and Planning Group (EEPG) as a working group within RIPE. Find below information on the EEPG terms of reference and the installed mailing list. EEPG will meet for the first time at the January RIPE meeting and an agenda will be sent out during first half of January. If you have suggestions for the agenda please fell free to propose such items to the EEPG mailing list. One item that certainly will be on the agenda is the coming D-GIX implementation. A Happy New Year to You All, Bernhard Stockman EEPG chair. ===================================================================== TERMS OF REFERENCE FOR EUROPEAN ENGINEERING AND PLANNING GROUP (EEPG) Bernhard Stockman December 27, 1993 The European Engineering and Planning Group is the platform for the engineering and deployment planning of the European part of the Internet. The Internet shall here be seen in a broader sense not just networks based on the TCP/IP protocol suite. EEPG will be active in the area of operational planning and engineering among various network service providers. EEPG will work in close liaison with the Intercontinental Enginering and Planning Group (IEPG) and bring attention to IEPG key activities as relevant within the European networking environment. EEPG can thus be seen as the European branch of the IEPG and European participation in the IEPG will be drawn from EEPG. EEPG is open for anyone but is mainly intended for operational planning and engineering among network service providers. RIPE, being the organization for coordination of European network services, is the adequate framework for the EEPG. EEPG will thus have the form of a RIPE Working Group and meet in conjunction with general RIPE meetings, currently three times a year. With the recent development and growth of the global network environment and the foreseen problems in maintaining an ubiquitous and homogeneous global network infrastructure the EEPG sees as its role to to identify and prioritize key activities of a technical nature which have a direct impact on the European and worldwide networking environment. For this reason EEPG will: - propose solutions for an optimized interconnectivity infrastrucutre among European network service providers with the ambition of securing maximal connectivity and flexibility in terms of engineering and management. With the increasing number of international network service providers, the maintenance and improvement of pan-European and global connectivity is an obvious challenge. - propose coordinated deployment of basic distributed network applications. The overall future of the global networking infrastructure is dependent on our common ability to evolve the collection of basic applications in the direction of enhanced quality and reliability of services. - propose practices and methods for efficient fault isolation and recovery as well as coordinated information dissemination in the area of network management. The focus here is to advocate the necessity of basic common operational methodologies and procedures within each network provider's operational domain to ensure that the user community can be serviced with a seamless end to end capability with appropriate mechanisms to ensure overall quality and reliability of the offered service. This area explicitly includes Network Information Center (NIC) and Network Operations Center (NOC) interaction. An EEPG work-plan will be maintained describing current areas of interest and priorities. The work-plan will from time to time be updated and documented to reflect changes of focus. ===================================================================== The EEPG mailing list The list has been created as <eepg-wg(a)ripe.net>. Current members from the signup sheet as below. People can subscribe and unsubscribe by sending mail to <majordomo(a)ripe.net>. Sending "help" in the message body will provide a help menu. The informational text and the current membership are listed below. The list is archived. Archive files are available via majordomo. =============================================================== >>>> info eepg-wg Information about mailing list <eepg-wg(a)ripe.net>: This is the mailing list of the European Engineering and Planning Group which is currently being set up. The group is expected to be formally established at the RIPE meeting on 24-26 January 1994. The draft ToR can be found in the archive. Membership of this mailing list is open. This mailing list is archived since December 22nd 1993. For more information contact <ncc(a)ripe.net>. [Last updated Wed Dec 22 16:02:10 1993] >>>> who eepg-wg Members of list 'eepg-wg': RIPE NCC <staff(a)ripe.net> # Antonio Blasco Bonito <bonito(a)nis.garr.it> Erik-Jan Bos <bos(a)surfnet.nl> Daniele Bovio <hi(a)frors12.bitnet> Graca Carvalho <graca(a)uminho.pt> Havard Eidnes <Havard.Eidnes(a)runit.sintef.no> Stefan Fassbender <stf(a)nis.easi.net> Peter Ford <peter(a)goshawk.lanl.gov> Elise Gerich <epg(a)merit.edu> Herluf Hansen <hha(a)tbit.dk> Hakan Hansson <hh(a)tip.net> Ian Harding <ih(a)chernikeeff.co.uk> Willi Huber <huber(a)sitch.ch> Avgust Jauk <jauk(a)ijs.si> Phil Jones <p.jones(a)jnt.ac.uk> Tomaz Kalin <kalin(a)rare.nl> Lars-Johan Liman <liman(a)sunet.se> Joseph Michl <michl(a)belwue.dbp.de> Svend Moeller Nielsen <smn(a)tbit.dk> Dave Morton <dave(a)ecrc.de> Arnold Nipper <nipper(a)xlink.net> Mike Norris <mnorris(a)dalkey.hea.ie> Petri Ojala <ojala(a)eu.net> Juergen Rauschenbach <rauschenbach(a)dfn.de> Joyce Reynolds <jkrey(a)isi.edu> Duncan Rogerson <D.Rogerson(a)noc.ulcc.ac.uk> Giuseppe Romano <romano(a)cnuce.cnr.it> Martijn Roos Lindgreen <martijn(a)nluug.nl> Miguel Sanz <miguel.a.sanz(a)iris-dcp.es> Don Stikvoort <stikvoort(a)surfnet.nl> Bernhard Stockman <boss(a)sunet.se> Juliana Tamorri <tamorri(a)nis.garr.it> Geza Turchanyi <h2064tur(a)ella.hu> Willem van der Scheun <scheun(a)sara.nl> Daniele Vannozzi <vannozzi(a)nis.garr.it> Marcel Wiget <wiget(a)chx400.switch.ch> >>>> index eepg-wg total 0 -rw-rw-rw- 1 majordom 0 Dec 22 16:00 current

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IETF nominations committee
by Erik Huizer (SURFnet BV) 23 Dec '93

23 Dec '93

In March next year half of the current IAB and the current IESG positions are up for nominations. Currently there is one European in the IAB (Christian Huitema) and one in the IESG (me). I think that is too little of a European involvement, and we need to get more Europeans involved. So I plead with you all to help in achieving this, at least if you are supportive of the IETF. There are two ways you can help: 1) put your name up for the nominations committee. This committee is soon to be installed and will be drawn at random from those who volunteer. The committee will propose the candidates for the IAB and IESG. It is very important in my view that we get enough European names in "the hat" before they start to draw this committee. For more details see the message below. 2) put your name up for nomination into the IESG or IAB. We need good people there. I realise that this is not a simple request, but if you even think you might be interested and want more info on such a "job" (no payment involved :-), don't hesitate to contact me. Prettige Kerstdagen en een gelukkig 1994, Erik ------- Forwarded Message Date: Wed, 22 Dec 93 20:11:13 -0500 From: "Vinton G. Cerf" <vcerf(a)CNRI.Reston.VA.US> To: ietf(a)CNRI.Reston.VA.US, internauts:;, isoc-interest(a)relay.sgi.com Subject: IAB/IESG Nominations Committee Chairman Appointed Dear Internauts and Internet Community members, I am pleased to announce that Fred Baker of ACC, Inc., has accepted the responsibility to chair the 1994 IAB/IESG nominations committee. This is, as always, an ambitious undertaking and now it is your responsibility to accept your own professional responsibilities to assist in any way you can. 1. Persons who have attended at least 2 IETF meetings in the last 5 years are eligible to volunteer to serve on the nominations committee. Volunteers should send email to: fbaker(a)acc.com with appropriate contact information (email address, work telephone, work fax, home telephone, home fax, postal address for any correspondence). The list of volunteers will be verified as to qualification using the IETF secretariat attendance records at CNRI. A nominations committee will be formed from a randomly selected subset of the qualified volunteers. 2. Paul Mockapetris and Jeff Case are acting as advisors (to serve as "corporate memory" of the 1993 committee). It is vital to identify qualified committee candidates from all constituents of the Internet community, especially those from outside the US since this segment is not always adequately represented. A list of IESG positions to be filled and IAB positions to be reconsidered will be published shortly. Please give serious consideration to possible candidates to fill these posts and make these suggestions known to Fred, who will share them with the committee. I wish each of you a most joyous holiday season and prosperous new year! Cordially, Vint Cerf President Internet Society ------- End of Forwarded Message

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None
by CEARN.CERN.CH!MARTIN＠cearn.cern.ch 21 Dec '93

21 Dec '93

Please note that deliverable 2 of the BETEL project (Test Report) is now available via anonymous ftp from dxcoms.cern.ch as well as miscellaneous other documents related to the project: /pub/betel/betel-d02.ps (420970 bytes) /pub/betel/betel-d02.ps.Z (158144 bytes) The document is fairly big (50 pages), and was converted to Postscript from Words 5.0 on a Mac. It has also been successfully printed on an Apple Laser Writer printer. BETEL is one of the 4 projets selected in DIVON as a result of the DION call for proposals, and the short summary below has already been posted onto various distribution lists. Olivier, H. Martin - CERN CN Division ------------------------------------- ..................................... I2003 - BETEL (Boadband Exchange over Trans-European Links) ----------------------------------------------------------- The aim of the BETEL project is to demonstrate over optical fiber links multimedia applications with high data rate transmissions. The optical platform interconnects CERN (Geneva), IN2P3 (Lyon), EPFL (Lausanne) and Eurecom (Sophia Antipolis) since September 1993. Olivier

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Document Anncouncement: Procedures for DNS Delegation in the IN-ADDR.ARPA Domain
by Daniel Karrenberg 06 Dec '93

06 Dec '93

Apologies to everyone for the not completely processed version of the previous announcement. Daniel New/Revised RIPE Document Announcement -------------------------------------- A revised document is available from the RIPE document store. Ref: ripe-105 Title: Procedures for DNS Delegation in the IN-ADDR.ARPA Domain Author: Daniel Karrenberg, Marten Terpstra Date: 6 December 1993 Format: PS=33719 TXT=11597 Bytes Obsoletes: ripe-85 Obsoleted by: Updates: Updated by: Short content description ------------------------- This document describes the procedures for the delegation of zones in European subdomains of IN-ADDR.ARPA. FTP Access ---------- All RIPE documents and Internet RFC`s are available via anonymous FTP from host ftp.ripe.net. Type "ftp ftp.ripe.net". Login with username "anonymous" supplying your email address as the password. After logging in, type "cd ripe/docs/ripe-docs" followed by the command "get filename". The relevant filenames for this document are: ripe-105.txt for the ASCII version ripe-105.ps for the PostScript version Electronic Mail Retrieval of Documents -------------------------------------- Documents can also be retrieved from the RIPE document store using a mail server program. For more information on how to use the program, send email to: mail-server(a)ripe.net with "send HELP" in the body text. RIPE NCC Interactive Information Server --------------------------------------- Type "telnet info.ripe.net". This is a menu driven service allows the document store to be browsed. After reading documents you are prompted as to whether you would like to receive an email copy of the document you have just read. If you would, you simply enter your email address and the document will be mailed to you. Below are details of alternative methods of access. Gopher Access ------------- The same documents are available via a "gopher" server at "gopher gopher.ripe.net". WAIS Access ----------- There is also a "WAIS" server at wais.ripe.net, where there is a WAIS index for RIPE documents "ripe-docs.src" WWW Access ---------- For those who wish to add this home page at the RIPE NCC to their own customized home pages, it can be accessed as: http://www.ripe.net MIME Mail Reader ---------------- Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant Mail Reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the RIPE document. SEND ripe/docs/ripe-docs/ripe-105.txt

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Document Anncouncement: Procedures for DNS Delegation in the IN-ADDR.ARPA Domain
by Daniel Karrenberg 06 Dec '93

06 Dec '93

#<text/plain [Document Announcement] New/Revised RIPE Document Announcement -------------------------------------- A revised document is available from the RIPE document store. Ref: ripe-105 Title: Procedures for DNS Delegation in the IN-ADDR.ARPA Domain Author: Daniel Karrenberg, Marten Terpstra Date: 6 December 1993 Format: PS=33719 TXT=11597 Bytes Obsoletes: ripe-85 Obsoleted by: Updates: Updated by: Short content description ------------------------- This document describes the procedures for the delegation of zones in European subdomains of IN-ADDR.ARPA. #<text/plain [Retrieval Methods] FTP Access ---------- All RIPE documents and Internet RFC`s are available via anonymous FTP from host ftp.ripe.net. Type "ftp ftp.ripe.net". Login with username "anonymous" supplying your email address as the password. After logging in, type "cd ripe/docs/ripe-docs" followed by the command "get filename". The relevant filenames for this document are: ripe-105.txt for the ASCII version ripe-105.ps for the PostScript version Electronic Mail Retrieval of Documents -------------------------------------- Documents can also be retrieved from the RIPE document store using a mail server program. For more information on how to use the program, send email to: mail-server(a)ripe.net with "send HELP" in the body text. RIPE NCC Interactive Information Server --------------------------------------- Type "telnet info.ripe.net". This is a menu driven service allows the document store to be browsed. After reading documents you are prompted as to whether you would like to receive an email copy of the document you have just read. If you would, you simply enter your email address and the document will be mailed to you. Below are details of alternative methods of access. Gopher Access ------------- The same documents are available via a "gopher" server at "gopher gopher.ripe.net". WAIS Access ----------- There is also a "WAIS" server at wais.ripe.net, where there is a WAIS index for RIPE documents "ripe-docs.src" WWW Access ---------- For those who wish to add this home page at the RIPE NCC to their own customized home pages, it can be accessed as: http://www.ripe.net MIME Mail Reader ---------------- Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant Mail Reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the RIPE document. #@text/plain; \ type=text [FTP ASCII version] \ access-type=anon-ftp; \ name="ripe-105.txt"; \ directory="ripe/docs/ripe-docs"; \ site="ftp.ripe.net" #@text/plain; \ type=text [Have mail-server send document] \ access-type=mail-server; \ server="mail-server(a)ripe.net"; \ body="SEND ripe/docs/ripe-docs/ripe-105.txt" #@application/postscript; \ type=postscript [FTP PostScript version] \ access-type=anon-ftp; \ name="ripe-105.ps"; \ directory="ripe/docs/ripe-docs"; \ site="ftp.ripe.net"

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Document Announcement: IP Address Space Assignment Procedures
by Daniel Karrenberg 06 Dec '93

06 Dec '93

New/Revised RIPE Document Announcement -------------------------------------- A revised document is available from the RIPE document store. Ref: ripe-104 Title: IP Address Space Assignment Procedures Author: Daniel Karrenberg, Marten Terpstra Date: 6 December 1993 Format: PS=29433 TXT=9761 Bytes Obsoletes: ripe-72 Obsoleted by: Updates: Updated by: Short content description ------------------------- This document describes the procedures for the assignment of IP address space by European local Internet Registries. FTP Access ---------- All RIPE documents and Internet RFC`s are available via anonymous FTP from host ftp.ripe.net. Type "ftp ftp.ripe.net". Login with username "anonymous" supplying your email address as the password. After logging in, type "cd ripe/docs/ripe-docs" followed by the command "get filename". The relevant filenames for this document are: ripe-104.txt for the ASCII version ripe-104.ps for the PostScript version Electronic Mail Retrieval of Documents -------------------------------------- Documents can also be retrieved from the RIPE document store using a mail server program. For more information on how to use the program, send email to: mail-server(a)ripe.net with "send HELP" in the body text. RIPE NCC Interactive Information Server --------------------------------------- Type "telnet info.ripe.net". This is a menu driven service allows the document store to be browsed. After reading documents you are prompted as to whether you would like to receive an email copy of the document you have just read. If you would, you simply enter your email address and the document will be mailed to you. Below are details of alternative methods of access. Gopher Access ------------- The same documents are available via a "gopher" server at "gopher gopher.ripe.net". WAIS Access ----------- There is also a "WAIS" server at wais.ripe.net, where there is a WAIS index for RIPE documents "ripe-docs.src" WWW Access ---------- For those who wish to add this home page at the RIPE NCC to their own customized home pages, it can be accessed as: http://www.ripe.net MIME Mail Reader ---------------- Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant Mail Reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the RIPE document. SEND ripe/docs/ripe-docs/ripe-104.txt

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ripe-103: Inter-AS Networks in the RIPE Routing Registry
by Daniel Karrenberg 03 Dec '93

03 Dec '93

New/Revised RIPE Document Announcement -------------------------------------- A new document is available from the RIPE document store. Ref: ripe-103 Title: Description of Inter-AS Networks in the RIPE Routing Registry Author: Daniel Karrenberg, Tony Bates Date: 2 December 1993 Format: PS=23014 TXT=4447 bytes Obsoletes: Obsoleted by: Updates: ripe-81 Updated by: Short content description ------------------------- This document describes how to register additional information about networks connecting multiple Autonomous Systems. FTP Access ---------- All RIPE documents and Internet RFC`s are available via anonymous FTP from host ftp.ripe.net. Type "ftp ftp.ripe.net". Login with username "anonymous" supplying your email address as the password. After logging in, type "cd ripe/docs/ripe-docs" followed by the command "get <filename>". The document file names are ripe-103.txt and ripe-103.ps. Electronic Mail Retrieval of Documents -------------------------------------- Documents can also be retrieved from the RIPE document store using a mail server program. For more information on how to use the program, send email to: mail-server(a)ripe.net with "send HELP" in the body text. RIPE NCC Interactive Information Server --------------------------------------- Type "telnet info.ripe.net". This is a menu driven service allows the document store to be browsed. After reading documents you are prompted as to whether you would like to receive an email copy of the document you have just read. If you would, you simply enter your email address and the document will be mailed to you. Below are details of alternative methods of access. Gopher Access ------------- The same documents are available via a "gopher" server at "gopher gopher.ripe.net". WAIS Access ----------- There is also a "WAIS" server at wais.ripe.net, where there is a WAIS index for RIPE documents "ripe-docs.src" WWW Access ---------- For those who wish to add this home page at the RIPE NCC to their own customized home pages, it can be accessed as: http://www.ripe.net MIME Mail Reader ---------------- Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant Mail Reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the RIPE document. SEND ripe/docs/ripe-docs/ripe-103.txt

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RIPE DNS Hostcount November 1993
by Marten Terpstra 03 Dec '93

03 Dec '93

Hi folks, Please find below the RIPE DNS hostcount for November 1993. - a few countries went down (ES and HR), probably due to connectivity problems. - it seems that in Europe, the UK has taken over first place from Germany (DE). - overall an increase of over 33,000 to 533,701 or a 6.7% incease from last month's count. - we are currently using the hostcount output (all the zones) to analyse the address usage in each of the top level domains. This is basically a breakdown of class A,B and C and the average usage on each of them. This is done for the IETF ALE working group. If you wish to have a copy of this, get on the ale list, or send me a private mail. For the ALE list, send a request to: ipv4-ale-request(a)ftp.com - also, we have run some tests to do the hostcount not only for Europe, but to include all other top level domains as well. This is both done to test the hostcount program, and to compare to the Zone overview as produced by Mark Lottor every quarter. Because these figures are used more and more to predict the growth rate of the Internet, we feel that one needs at least two different measurements for accurate figures. Our current thinking is that we will do a full worldwide DNS count in the X-mas period. - All output again on ftp.ripe.net:ripe/hostcount - history again appended. Enjoy, -Marten RIPE DNS Hostcount Previous Count : Sun Oct 31 1993 This Count : Tue Nov 30 1993 CY SOA COUNTED DUPL REAL CHANGE ============================================================ al 0 0 0 0 0 at 333 15005 357 14648 + 1100 be 74 6569 103 6466 + 440 bg 3 21 5 16 0 by 0 0 0 0 0 ch 194 35611 259 35352 + 701 cs 114 2985 51 2934 + 162 cy 4 31 1 30 0 cz 104 4206 88 4118 + 203 de 1663 112476 6285 106191 + 6077 dk 132 8299 165 8134 + 641 dz 0 0 0 0 0 ee 20 392 2 390 + 32 eg 4 10 0 10 + 10 es 294 12119 110 12009 - 350 fi 295 32599 301 32298 + 2274 fo 1 0 0 0 0 fr 602 49942 755 49187 + 1227 gb 1 17 0 17 + 1 ge 1 0 0 0 0 gr 85 1789 258 1531 + 90 hr 7 122 3 119 - 481 hu 40 2731 17 2714 + 299 ie 47 2265 58 2207 + 97 is 45 1600 9 1591 + 87 it 456 16171 334 15837 + 633 il 98 6019 68 5951 + 541 li 2 17 0 17 0 lt 1 0 0 0 0 lu 18 287 2 285 + 10 lv 2 53 0 53 + 5 mk 1 0 0 0 0 mt 1 0 0 0 0 nl 442 43087 408 42679 + 2473 no 479 29915 265 29650 + 2199 pl 217 4538 99 4439 + 471 pt 106 3555 73 3482 + 301 ro 1 28 0 28 + 8 se 526 41324 504 40820 + 2740 si 15 564 4 560 + 52 sk 50 793 13 780 + 283 su 156 1408 84 1324 + 311 tn 1 0 0 0 0 tr 22 616 7 609 + 54 ua 37 204 31 173 + 17 uk 809 118637 11587 107050 +10974 va 0 0 0 0 0 yu 1 2 0 2 + 1 ============================================================ 7504 556007 22306 533701 +33683 This is an overview of the History of the RIPE hostcounts. It only contains the totals. The totals for 1990-1991 should be considered rather unstable and unreliable because the program used then was not really tuned, plus the count was not done as regular as it is now. Count : total hostcount for all European top level domains Delta : delta since previous count Delta % : delta as percentage of previous count Q Delta : delta over the past quarter Q Delta%: delta over last quarter as percentage of end of last quarter count For the Q Deltas I have not calculated those back before 1992, because the figures for 1990-1991 are not too reliable. *) Dec 1991 hostcount estimated at 135,000. Count Delta Delta % Q Delta Q Delta % ------------------------------------------------------------------- Oct 1990 31724 Nov 1990 33665 + 1941 + 6.1% Dec 1990 29230 - 4435 - 13.2% Jan 1991 43832 + 14602 + 50.0% Feb 1991 - Mar 1991 44506 + 674 + 1.5% Apr 1991 46948 + 2442 + 5.5% May 1991 - Jun 1991 63267 + 16319 + 34.8% Jul 1991 - Aug 1991 73069 + 9802 + 15.5% Sep 1991 92834 + 19765 + 27.0% Oct 1991 104824 + 11990 + 12.9% Nov 1991 129652 + 24828 + 23.7% Dec 1991 - Jan 1992 141308 + 11656 + 9.0% Feb 1992 161434 + 20126 + 14.2% Mar 1992 167939 + 6505 + 4.0% + 32939 *) + 24.4% *) Apr 1992 170050 + 2111 + 1.3% May 1992 182528 + 12478 + 7.3% Jun 1992 196758 + 14230 + 7.8% + 28819 + 17.2% Jul 1992 213017 + 16259 + 8.3% Aug 1992 221951 + 8934 + 4.2% Sep 1992 232522 + 10571 + 4.8% + 35764 + 18.2% Oct 1992 254585 + 22063 + 9.5% Nov 1992 271795 + 17210 + 6.8% Dec 1992 284374 + 12579 + 4.6% + 51852 + 22.3% Jan 1993 303828 + 19454 + 6.8% Feb 1993 322902 + 19074 + 6.3% Mar 1993 355140 + 32238 + 10.0% + 70766 + 24.9% Apr 1993 366164 + 11024 + 3.1% May 1993 385522 + 19358 + 5.3% Jun 1993 404930 + 19408 + 5.0% + 49790 + 14.0% Jul 1993 426827 + 21897 + 5.4% Aug 1993 451116 + 24289 + 5.7% Sep 1993 469356 + 18240 + 4.0% + 64424 + 15.9% Oct 1993 500018 + 30662 + 6.5% Nov 1993 533701 + 33683 + 6.7%

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Document Announcement
by Anne Lord 02 Dec '93

02 Dec '93

Revised RIPE Document Announcement -------------------------------------- A revised document below is available from the RIPE document store. Ref: ripe-102 Title: General information about RIPE and the RIPE NCC Author: RIPE NCC Date: 2 December 1993 Format: PS=28973 TXT=3441 bytes Obsoletes: ripe-057 Obsoleted by: Updates: Updated by: Old: general Short content description ------------------------- Updated version of document giving general information about RIPE and the RIPE NCC. FTP Access ---------- All RIPE documents and Internet RFC`s are available via anonymous FTP from host ftp.ripe.net. Type "ftp ftp.ripe.net". Login with username "anonymous" supplying your email address as the password. After logging in, type "cd ripe/docs/ripe-docs" followed by the command "get ripe-102". Electronic Mail Retrieval of Documents -------------------------------------- Documents can also be retrieved from the RIPE document store using a mail server program. For more information on how to use the program, send email to: mail-server(a)ripe.net with "send HELP" in the body text. RIPE NCC Interactive Information Server --------------------------------------- Type "telnet info.ripe.net". This is a menu driven service allows the document store to be browsed. After reading documents you are prompted as to whether you would like to receive an email copy of the document you have just read. If you would, you simply enter your email address and the document will be mailed to you. Below are details of alternative methods of access. Gopher Access ------------- The same documents are available via a "gopher" server at "gopher gopher.ripe.net". WAIS Access ----------- There is also a "WAIS" server at wais.ripe.net, where there is a WAIS index for RIPE documents "ripe-docs.src" WWW Access ---------- For those who wish to add this home page at the RIPE NCC to their own customized home pages, it can be accessed as: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/default.html MIME Mail Reader ---------------- Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant Mail Reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the RIPE document. SEND ripe/docs/ripe-docs/ripe-102.txt

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17th RIPE meeting - hotel list
by Anne Lord 02 Dec '93

02 Dec '93

********************************************************************* 17th RIPE meeting Details of Hotels in Amsterdam Amsterdam, September 1993 <> All phone numbers below require the prefix 31 20 <quoted number>. <> All tram connections are from central station. Low Budget Hotels (price range 80-120 Hfl) ----------------------------------------- Name Address Phone Fax Tram International Centrum Linnaeusstraat 2 6925111 9 Barbacan Plantage Muidergracht 89 6236241 6272041 9 Parklane Plantage Parklaan 16 6224804 9 Parkzicht Roemer Visscherstraat 33 6180897 5 Roemer Visscher Roemer Visscherstraat 10 6125511 5 Fita Jan Luyckenstraat 37 6790976 5 Mid range (price range 170-280 Hfl) ---------------------------------- Name Price Address Phone Fax Tram sgl/dbl Museum *** 170/244 PC Hooftstraat 2 6621402 6733918 5 Trianon *** 170/244 JW Brouwerstraat 3-7 6732073 6738868 16 Terdam *** 170/244 Tesselschadestraat 23 6126876 6838313 5 Holland *** 170/244 PC Hooftstraat 162 6764253 6765956 5 Beethoven **** 190/280 Beethovenstraat 43 6644816 6621240 24 Lairesse **** 240/280 De Lairessestraat 5-7 6719596 6711756 16 Karena Hotels Group (all centrally located) ------------------- Doelen ) Caransa ) -- Central Reservation number 626 2922 626 6831 Rembrandt ) Schiller ) If all the hotels are full or you are experiencing difficulty, try the following: Business Hotel Services - tel +31 20 691 6969 / fax +31 20 691 6209 This service is free of charge: you just tell them what kind of accommodation you need, where and the rate you want to pay, and they find it for you. -----------------------------end------------------------------------------

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