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Re: RIPE DNS Hostcount July 1993
by Arnold Nipper 04 Aug '93

04 Aug '93

>Sender: piet(a)mcsun.eu.net > > - DE is getting very close to be the first European country > to reach 100,000 machines. >With 90478 hosts the UK is also pretty close. >Interestingly, both countries once were X.25 >addicts where IP was a curse... :-) > That's not absolutely true! Long time ago there was *ONE* party which did not recommend IP as an open protocol. But as I said, that was before yesterday. > > Piet Arnold

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Re: RIPE DNS Hostcount July 1993
by Kevin Hoadley 04 Aug '93

04 Aug '93

>>Even more interesting is much (almost all in the UK case) still runs on top >>of X.25 infrastructure. Who says X.25 PLP is redundant (don't answer -- >>was a joke from someone who put a lot of the glue in place). As of yesterday, most of the JIPS backbone now runs native IP at 34Mb/s; the first steps towards something I'm sure ! Kevin Hoadley, JIPS NOSC. ----- End Included Message -----

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Re: RIPE DNS Hostcount July 1993
by Dave Morton 04 Aug '93

04 Aug '93

>Even more interesting is much (almost all in the UK case) still runs on top >of X.25 infrastructure. Who says X.25 PLP is redundant (don't answer -- >was a joke from someone who put a lot of the glue in place). > >--Tony. > Tony, I'm sure the community will forgive you for your past sins, implementing the glue, was adequate penance in itself :- Cheers, Dave

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Re: RIPE DNS Hostcount July 1993
by Dave Morton 04 Aug '93

04 Aug '93

>> Even more interesting is much (almost all in the UK case) still runs on top >> of X.25 infrastructure. Who says X.25 PLP is redundant (don't answer -- >> was a joke from someone who put a lot of the glue in place). > >This is even more true for DE. And we probably will for better or worse >likeley keep up with these traditioned way even longer than the UK. Some >of us still have their fingers deep in this glue... > >Toerless Toerless, Glad you said "some of us" ....... Dave

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Re: RIPE DNS Hostcount July 1993
by Dave Morton 04 Aug '93

04 Aug '93

> > Interestingly, both countries once were X.25 > > addicts where IP was a curse... :-) >one the other hand it seems they are pursuing to get rid of the "trouble >enhancement layer" that in less fortunate parts of the continent is still >considered a conditio sine qua non :-( > >Cheers, > Ruediger Gee Ruediger, pray tell us, now where might this less fortunate place be ? No - don't bother - I think I might just know offhand. Interestingly it is now more technically possible and financially sound to use ISDN in the "place" mentioned than X.25 but anyway, I wander. Regards, Dave

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Re: RIPE DNS Hostcount July 1993
by Dave Morton 04 Aug '93

04 Aug '93

>Anyway, we're number 2 - although we do claim to try harder, as they >say. :-) Listening to Janis Joplin again eh ? :- >Best wishes, > > Phil Anyways - no. 2 is better than no. 6 - being imprisoned on an island and having to conform and all that - old tv series - think about it ! :- Cheers, Dave

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Re: RIPE DNS Hostcount July 1993
by pwj＠informatics.rutherford.ac.uk 04 Aug '93

04 Aug '93

> From piet%net.EU.mcsun(a)uk.ac.nsfnet-relay Wed Aug 4 12:41:56 1993 > From: Piet.Beertema(a)net.EU.mcsun > To: Marten Terpstra <Marten.Terpstra(a)net.ripe> > Subject: Re: RIPE DNS Hostcount July 1993 > Cc: cerf(a)us.va.reston.cnri, RIPE Discussion List <ripe-list(a)net.ripe> > Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1993 13:31:51 +0200 > Original-Sender: piet(a)net.EU.mcsun > Original-Sender: piet(a)net.EU.mcsun > Sender: piet%net.EU.mcsun(a)uk.ac.nsfnet-relay > Content-Length: 232 > > - DE is getting very close to be the first European country > to reach 100,000 machines. > With 90478 hosts the UK is also pretty close. > > Piet > Piet: I don't have the latest hostcount in front of me, but I think this is a quote from the wrong column, isn't it? I think the 'real' number is at least 10,000 less than that. Anyway, we're number 2 - although we do claim to try harder, as they say. :-) Best wishes, Phil (p.jones(a)jnt.ac.uk, Voice: +44-235-446618, Fax: +44-235-446251) (post: JNT, RAL, Chilton, Didcot, OXON, OX11 0QX, UK)

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