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Code of Conduct Task Force Session - 1 September
by Antony Gollan 02 Sep '21

02 Sep '21

Dear colleagues, The Code of Conduct Task Force will hold a virtual session to get input from the RIPE community on its updated draft RIPE Code of Conduct on 1 September 2021 at 16:00 (UTC+2). You are invited to join this session and share your thoughts. The updated draft Code of Conduct is published here: https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-documents/other-documents/ripe-… Information on the task force is available here: https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/tf/code-of-conduct-task-force The Zoom details for this session are below. Kind regards Antony Gollan Communications Team Manager RIPE NCC ======== Topic: Code of Conduct TF Time: Sep 1, 2021 16:00 Amsterdam Join Zoom Meeting https://ripe.zoom.us/j/91503459567?pwd=U0I0MHhLREhzNVp6MTdTVzBRalNrQT09 Meeting ID: 915 0345 9567 Passcode: 516980 Join by SIP 91503459567(a)zoomcrc.com Join by H.323 162.255.37.11 (US West) 162.255.36.11 (US East) 221.122.88.195 (China) 115.114.131.7 (India Mumbai) 115.114.115.7 (India Hyderabad) 213.19.144.110 (Amsterdam Netherlands) 213.244.140.110 (Germany) 103.122.166.55 (Australia Sydney) 103.122.167.55 (Australia Melbourne) 209.9.211.110 (Hong Kong SAR) 64.211.144.160 (Brazil) 69.174.57.160 (Canada Toronto) 65.39.152.160 (Canada Vancouver) 207.226.132.110 (Japan Tokyo) 149.137.24.110 (Japan Osaka) Meeting ID: 915 0345 9567 Passcode: 516980

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Confidentiality, or that lack thereof
by Ronald F. Guilmette 27 Aug '21

27 Aug '21

Some long time ago, somebody (I can't remember who anymore) told me that "business information" given by a member to any RIR... which presumably included RIPE... was considered to be "confidential" and would not thereafter be shared by the RIR staff with any other or outside party. Now I am trying to figure out (a) if that is true and (b) if so, why it is true and (c) what the limits may be of that rather sweeping generalization, if any. At the moment, I am specifically and only interested in the answers to these three question with respect to RIPE. I hope that you will all forgive me for my apparent inability to find answers to these questions on my own. I have googled around a little bit, searching for such things as "RIPE" and "NDA" or "RIPE" and "disclosure" and I'm still not finding anything that jumps out at me as providing answers. I'm sure that it is my fault that I'm not able to find answers to these basic questions on my own, but I hope you all will bear with me anyway. In particular, I am looking at the current RIPE RSA, and I'm not finding anything in that that addresses confidentiality in any way: https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-673 Did I just miss it? Is RIPE contractually committed to some specific sort of confidentialty with respect to materials received from members, or from prospective members? If so, where is that committment documented? I'm intested in this topic of confidentiality *in general*, but I have a special and particular interest in the contractual confidentiality commitments, if any, undertaken by RIPE with respect to bullet point #2 in Section 2.2 of the RSA: * A recent extract from the Commercial Trade Register or equivalent document proving the registration of the Member with the national authorities. Is RIPE obligated by either contract or policy to confidentiality with repsect to the mere corporate registrations of its members or prospective members? If so, by what rule? And where is that rule codified? Regards, rfg

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2022 IGF MAG Nominations Open
by Chris Buckridge 26 Aug '21

26 Aug '21

Dear colleagues, The UN Secretary General has put out a call for nominations to join Internet Governance Forum (IGF) Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG), the IGF’s guiding body. As in previous years, individuals can put their names forward directly to the UN, or can nominate themselves (or someone else) via the Internet Technical Collaboration Group (ITCG), which has made recommendations to the UN for technical community MAG nominees in past years. The open call from the ITCG is pasted below and has more details, but please feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions regarding the role. Best regards, Chris Buckridge RIPE NCC > —— > > ITCG Call for Nominations: 2022 MAG Renewal > > The Internet Technical Collaboration Group (ITCG) is launching a process to identify individuals who may serve as members of the 2022 Internet Governance Forum (IGF) Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG), on behalf of the Internet technical community. The ITCG will endorse qualified candidates for a one-year position on the MAG (renewable up to a maximum of three years), to be taken up at the invitation of the United Nations Secretary-General. > > The MAG advises the U.N. Secretary General on the programme and schedule of the Internet Governance Forum meetings. It comprises approximately 40 Members from governments, the private sector, civil society, and technical communities. MAG members are expected to attend two to three MAG meetings in Geneva, ‎Switzerland, in addition to the annual IGF meeting. They should participate actively in the ‎preparatory process throughout the year, through engagement in the online multilateral ‎dialogue among MAG members. Please note that candidates should be able to fund their travel to these events–some MAG members may be eligible to receive some funding support from the UN. It is expected that in this year’s renewal there will be approximately five seats to be filled by stakeholders from the Internet technical community. > > Individuals may apply directly to the United Nations for a seat on the MAG; however, each stakeholder group (such as the private sector and civil society) has established its own processes to recommend well-qualified candidates that can represent its interests and concerns. The ITCG has historically played such a role for the global technical community stakeholder group, and seeks to recommend candidates with strong links to the technical community. More information about the ITCG and its set of standards is available here: > https://www.internetcollaboration.org > > Individuals interested in being suggested by the Nominating Committee are invited to use the online form to submit a nomination: https://www.internetcollaboration.org/2022-igf-mag-nomination-form/ > > You may also download the Nomination Form and return it, along with a biography or CV, to information(a)internetcollaboration.org by 00:00 UTC on 5 September 2021: > > It is possible to nominate another person for consideration, as long as the person is aware that you have out forward their name. Preferred formats for document submissions are .pdf and .txt. > > The ITCG IGF MAG 2022 Nominating Committee will transmit the names of selected nominees to the United Nations by 10 September 2021. > > ——

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NRO NC Call for Nominations
by Hans Petter Holen 25 Aug '21

25 Aug '21

Dear colleagues, This is a call for nominations from the RIPE NCC service region to fill one seat on the Number Resource Organization (NRO) Number Council (NC). The three-year term of Nurani Nimpuno ends on 31 December 2021. The election for this NRO NC seat will take place during the RIPE 83 meeting that will be held virtually from 22-26 November 2021. All members of the Internet community who are attending the RIPE Meeting (except Regional Internet Registry staff members) may vote in the election. The deadline for nominations is Wednesday, 27 October 2021. Any individual residing within the RIPE NCC service region is eligible for nomination, except Regional Internet Registry (RIR) staff members. Self-nominations are permitted. The nomination process is available at: https://www.ripe.net/nov-2021/nro-nc-nomination-process Please send your nominations to <nominations(a)ripe.net> by 23:59 UTC on 27 October 2021. All confirmed nominations will be listed on the RIPE NCC website by 1 November 2021. All nominees may submit a written statement in support of their nomination for publication on the RIPE NCC website. Other people can express support for nominated individuals by sending an email to <nominations(a)ripe.net>. Expressions of support will also be published on the RIPE NCC website. To find out more about the NRO NC and the election process, please see: https://www.ripe.net/nro-nc/nominations-nov-2021 ------------------- About the NRO NC ------------------- The NRO NC performs the role of the Address Supporting Organization Address Council (ASO AC), including: - Overseeing the Global Policy Development Process. - Providing recommendations to the ICANN Board concerning the recognition of new RIRs. - Nominating individuals to serve in the ASO’s two seats (Seat 9 and Seat 10) on the ICANN Board of Directors and other ICANN bodies. - Advising to the ICANN Board on Internet number resource allocation policy, in conjunction with the RIRs. - Developing procedures for conducting business in support of their responsibilities, in particular, for the appointment of an ASO AC Chair and definition of the Chair’s responsibilities. For more information about the ASO AC, please see: https://aso.icann.org/aso-ac Regards, Hans Petter Holen Managing Director RIPE NCC ---------------------- Important dates ---------------------- 27 October 2021: Deadline for NRO NC nominations 1 November 2021: Deadline for all confirmed nominees to be posted on the RIPE NCC website 22-26 November 2021: Election to fill NRO NC seat during the RIPE 83 Meeting 26 November 2021: Announce successful candidate at closing plenary of RIPE 83

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New on RIPE Labs: Transparency Meets Sustainability - Announcing the SDIA Open Data Hub
by Antony Gollan 13 Aug '21

13 Aug '21

Dear colleagues, The lack of reliable data is one of the most foundational issues in creating a sustainable ICT ecosystem. In a new article on RIPE Labs, Michael Oghia introduces the Open Data Hub, a resource to boost transparency, trust, and data availability managed by the Sustainable Digital Infrastructure Alliance (SDIA). https://labs.ripe.net/author/michael_oghia/transparency-meets-sustainabilit… Kind regards, Antony Gollan Communications Team Leader RIPE NCC

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Re: [ripe-list] [db-wg] Reminder: RIPE Database Requirements Task Force – Draft Report Published
by Jetten Raymond 11 Aug '21

11 Aug '21

Hi, I am very happy with the recommendations presented so far, Thanks for all the work done so far ! Rgds, Ray For Internal Use Only From: db-wg <db-wg-bounces(a)ripe.net<mailto:db-wg-bounces@ripe.net>> On Behalf Of Bijal Sanghani via db-wg Sent: keskiviikko 11. elokuuta 2021 13.26 To: ripe-list(a)ripe.net<mailto:ripe-list@ripe.net>; Database WG <db-wg(a)ripe.net<mailto:db-wg@ripe.net>> Subject: [db-wg] Reminder: RIPE Database Requirements Task Force – Draft Report Published Dear all, A gentle reminder for feedback on the report the RIPE Database Requirements Task Force published last month. Please let us know if you have any questions or concerns on the draft or if you’re happy with our recommendations. This will give us input into finalising the report which we plan to publish before RIPE82. We look forward to your feedback, thank you for your time - https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/tf/rdb-requirements-tf/the-ripe-datab… Kind regards, Bijal Sanghani On 1 Jul 2021, at 13:31, Bijal Sanghani <bijal(a)euro-ix.net<mailto:bijal@euro-ix.net>> wrote: Dear colleagues, The RIPE Database Requirements Task Force has just published a draft report for your review: https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/tf/rdb-requirements-tf/the-ripe-datab… In this third draft, we’ve added new recommendations and edited our document based on feedback received via emails, survey and during our third BoF in May. Please review this draft and share any comments on the ripe-list before Friday, 13 August 2021. The task force will reconvene in August to discuss the feedback received and work on its final report that will be published ahead of RIPE 83. We look forward to your feedback. Best Regards, Bijal Sanghani

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RIPE Database Requirements Task Force – Draft Report Published
by Bijal Sanghani 11 Aug '21

11 Aug '21

Dear colleagues, The RIPE Database Requirements Task Force has just published a draft report for your review: https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/tf/rdb-requirements-tf/the-ripe-datab… In this third draft, we’ve added new recommendations and edited our document based on feedback received via emails, survey and during our third BoF in May. Please review this draft and share any comments on the ripe-list before Friday, 13 August 2021. The task force will reconvene in August to discuss the feedback received and work on its final report that will be published ahead of RIPE 83. We look forward to your feedback. Best Regards, Bijal Sanghani

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INRs War (was: Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs)
by Sylvain Baya 10 Aug '21

10 Aug '21

{remove arin-discuss, as it has been closed} {apologies for ×-posting} Dear all, Please see my comments below, inline... Le vendredi 6 août 2021, Noah <noah(a)neo.co.tz> a écrit : > Shalom Sylvain, > Shalom Noah, Thanks for your email, brother. > > On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 2:13 PM Sylvain Baya <abscoco(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> {apologies for crossposting} >> Dear RIPE-Lister, >> >> Hope you are well. >> >> Please see my comments below, inline... >> >> Le mar. 3 août 2021 à 10:07 AM, Daniel Karrenberg <dfk(a)ripe.net> a >> écrit : >> >>> >>> >>> On 2 Aug 2021, at 20:45, Randy Bush wrote: >>> >>> > ignore the lies and escalation. it is just designed to >>> > create doubt and confusion. >>> >> > Time and space has a way of revealing the truth. > > >>> >>> Could not agree more. >> >> >> >> Hi Daniel, >> Thanks for your email, brother. >> >> ...this is an *INRs War*. it's no more only >> about few/full lies. >> >> It seems as AfriNIC is just the first step... >> > > No kidding, inlight of the so-called Number Resources Alliance which I > 100% is backed by IPv$ brokers for Larus at the front line. > > Of course! ...i may be naive! but what i read seems to be clear for me. Hope to have more reaction from the entire Internet Numbers Registry Community. This [1]article seems to share evidence that AfriNIC is not the first target, by that kind of behaviours. __ [1]: Concerns Grow As AFRINIC’s Funds Are Frozen Over IPv4 Dispute, by Doug Madory, Director of Internet Analysis, AUGUST 06, 2021 <https://www.kentik.com/blog/concerns-grow-as-afrinics-funds -are-frozen-over-ipv4-dispute/> ~°~ [...] In 2019, the Department of Justice indicted <https://www.justice.gov/usao-sc/pr/charleston-man-and-business-indicted-fed…> a man in South Carolina for fraudulently obtaining over 700,000 IPv4 addresses from North American registry ARIN estimated to be worth between “$9,850,880 and $14,397,440.” In a Lightning Talk <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYLEWCCjpao&t=235s> at LACNIC in 2018, Etienne Sharp <https://twitter.com/etiennesharp> blamed “ghost companies” for spiriting into Latin America, setting up virtual offices to obtain precious IPv4 address space at little cost, and then proceeding to use the address space outside the LACNIC region. Russian security company DDoS-Guard (aka Dancom) was one of those ghost companies <https://twitter.com/DougMadory/status/1351686933248933894> in Etienne’s presentation, and earlier this year, LACNIC revoked its right <https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/01/ddos-guard-to-forfeit-internet-space-oc…> to use the address space it obtained from Belize. [...] ~°~ > > > >> >> >> This guy quotes his very own comment on Rob >>> Blokzijl’s obituary and puts his own words in the mouth of Rob who >>> cannot do anything about it anymore. He even puts this ‘quote’ in >>> the charter of his new anti-RIR club. Distasteful. A disgrace. >>> >>> >> >> ...from the home page of the NRA: >> >> ~°~ >> NUMBER >> RESOURCES >> SOCIETY >> >> "RIR is just a bookkeeper" >> > > What they don't know is that an RIR like AFRINIC does more than just the > registry services even though Lu Heng our of ignorance mistakenly thinks > the RIR is a bookkeeper like wannabe mini-RIR Larus. > > ...kind of! but a top-down one, calling to build an anonymous community; which would let them take all *good* decisions on their behalf. Could they follow the global policies [2] :'-( __ [2]: <https://nro.net/policy/global> > 1. AFRINIC for instance is involved with a number of other activities > > - Internet Number Resources Management > - Resource Certification Program (RPKI) > > <https://rpki.afrinic.net/> <https://validator.afrinic.net/> > > - Internet Routing Registry (IRR) > - DNSSEC Program > - WHOIS Services > > & good statistics: <https://stats.afrinic.net> ...such as: <https://stats.afrinic.net/closures/> <https://ftp.afrinic.net/pub/stats/afrinic/transfers/> <https://stats.afrinic.net/dnssec/> <https://stats.afrinic.net/irr/> ... > > - Training Services in Collaboration with NOG's > > • *HelpDesk* [3] to freely support Deployment Operationalization (DO) within the AfriNIC service region. > - Online Services > - DNS Support Program > - Root Server Copy Programme > - Services like my.afrinic.net > > 2. AFRINIC carries out Research for the benefit of wide membership like: > > - Internet Technical Infrastructure > - Internet Access > - Internet Policy and Governance > - Internet Resilience > - Internet Standards and Protocols > - Internet Measurement > > ...as results of their efforts: <https://afrinic.net/research/> <https://afrinic.net/research/studies/mira#about> <https://github.com/mira-project/mira/wiki/About-MIRA> <https://airrs.afrinic.net> <https://afrinic.net/research/publications> ... > > > 3. AFRINIC providers Fund for Internet Research and Education and other > Internet initiatives across AFRICA. > > <https://fireafrica.org> > 4. AFRINIC supports Internet Exchange Points across AFRICA > > ...including through CPM section 5.6.4 [4]: ~°~ [...] 5.6.4 PI Assignments to critical Infrastructure 5.6.4.1 AFRINIC will make End-User assignment to critical infrastructure providers of the Internet such as public internet exchange points and core DNS service providers. [...] ~°~ ... > *Does LARUS Limited and its Larus Foundation have such capabilities? or > any IPv$ broker out there.?* > > ...if you asked me! i would have pointed you to a definition of a *network* [5], in Internet routing [6] & LIR contexts... __ [3]: Helpdesk - bit.ly/6deployEN or bit.ly/6deployFR [4]: <https://afrinic.net/policy/manual#IPv4-En-User-PI-Assignments> [5]: <https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/network#:~:text= 3,communicate%20with%20each%20other> " 3a: [...] b: a system of computers and peripherals that are able to communicate with each other " [6]: A-Z Glossary – APNIC <https://www.apnic.net/about-apnic/a-z-glossary/> ~°~ Network An international network providing public correspondence services (when used in the formal sense as defined in Section 4.17 of ITU-T Rec. E.164 (05/97)). ~°~ EN - <https://www.itu.int/rec/dologin_pub.asp?lang=f&id=T- REC-E.164-201011-I!!PDF-E&type=items> ~°~ 4.13 Network Internationally interconnected physical nodes and operational systems operated and maintained by one or more ROAs to provide public telecommunications services. Private networks are not included in this definition. Note that the use of capital "N" in Networks indicates that this definition applies. ~°~ ROA = Recognized Operating Agency ...i think these definitions allow me to expect at least one ASN to define the boundaries of the network of certain LIRs spanning multiple regions...unless, i'm understanding nothing :'-( Shalom, --sb. > Cheers, > Noah > > -- -- Best Regards ! __ baya.sylvain[AT cmNOG DOT cm]|<https://cmnog.cm/dokuwiki/Structure> Subscribe to Mailing List: <https://lists.cmnog.cm/mailman/listinfo/cmnog/> __ #‎LASAINTEBIBLE‬|#‎Romains15‬:33«Que LE ‪#‎DIEU‬ de ‪#‎Paix‬ soit avec vous tous! ‪#‎Amen‬!» ‪#‎MaPrière‬ est que tu naisses de nouveau. #Chrétiennement‬ «Comme une biche soupire après des courants d’eau, ainsi mon âme soupire après TOI, ô DIEU!»(#Psaumes42:2)

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[Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs
by Sylvain Baya 04 Aug '21

04 Aug '21

Dear AfriNIC's Community, Le dim. 1 août 2021 à 10:58 AM, Paul Wollner <paul.wollner(a)africaoncloud.net> a écrit : > > Hello community > Hi Paul, Thanks for your email, brother. ...please, next time, replace community by its plural...unless you test your *globalisation*? > I think I misused the word “take over” to spike some unfortunate > sentiments. > ...i see! So, you acknowledge to be wrong in your haste? ...please, come down, brother! > Let me try this again: > > In the interest of internet continuity, another RIR > ...i would have expected that the ressource member which caused this concern would have been your first recommended choice :-/ should help AFRINIC (by staff or infrastructure), to perform it’s core > registration service function for the time being, > > > NRA.help | Number Richers Alliance? :-/ > > until all AFRINIC litigation has been sorted to avoid disruption to our > African end users and businesses. > > ...which *African* end users? imho, your real fear seem to be the lost of connectivity of the 90%, out-of-region, customer base of the LIR which sued its parent-RIR and started an *INRs War* against the RFC7020, against the entire Internet Number Registry System, through the NRA.help project. Shalom, --sb. > Regards > Paul > > > > ---- On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 23:38:32 +0200 *Paul Wollner > <paul.wollner(a)africaoncloud.net <paul.wollner(a)africaoncloud.net>>* wrote > ---- > > Apologies for the duplicate post, but the initial posting was too large. > > The concerns expressed by TISPA, as well as other concerned parties and > especially by AFRINIC's own admission in the news outlet lexpress.mu, > which is available at https://ibb.co/tmWCk0k, regarding the AFRINIC’s > inability to keep providing its core registry functions due to its > inability to meet its financial requirements. > > I suggest that in order not hold end users, ISPs and any other business's > hostage, for the interest of continue service of AFRINIC’s core registry > service, we should urgently call for NRO fulfil their responsibility as > well as commitment to the global internet to take over AFRINIC’s > registration service for the time being, until litigation is settled some > time later. (https://www.nro.net/accountability/rir- > accountability/joint-rir-stability-fund/) > > That way, no end user or business will ever impacted however results come > out of litigation. > > Regards > Paul Wollner > > -- -- Best Regards ! __ baya.sylvain[AT cmNOG DOT cm]|<https://cmnog.cm/dokuwiki/Structure> Subscribe to Mailing List: <https://lists.cmnog.cm/mailman/listinfo/cmnog/> __ #‎LASAINTEBIBLE‬|#‎Romains15‬:33«Que LE ‪#‎DIEU‬ de ‪#‎Paix‬ soit avec vous tous! ‪#‎Amen‬!» ‪#‎MaPrière‬ est que tu naisses de nouveau. #Chrétiennement‬ «Comme une biche soupire après des courants d’eau, ainsi mon âme soupire après TOI, ô DIEU!»(#Psaumes42:2)

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RIPE 83 will be a virtual meeting
by Mirjam Kühne 04 Aug '21

04 Aug '21

Dear colleagues, Together with the RIPE NCC, the RIPE Chair Team has decided that RIPE 83 will take place fully virtually from 22-26 November 2021. We had hoped to hold a combined physical+remote meeting, and see at least some of you in person again. However, there are still too many uncertainties as far as COVID-19 and travel restrictions are concerned, and we cannot yet risk holding a face-to-face event under the circumstances. The safety of the meeting attendees and RIPE NCC staff is our first concern. We really hope that the situation will improve enough for us to meet again in person in 2022. You can get the latest updates about RIPE 83 on the meeting website: [https://ripe83.ripe.net](https://ripe83.ripe.net/) Kind regards, Mirjam Kühne RIPE Chair

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