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Re: RIPE 50: Registration Now Open
by Jim Reid 08 Mar '05

08 Mar '05

>>>>> "RIPE" == RIPE NCC meeting coordinator <meeting(a)ripe.net> writes: RIPE> RIPE 50 will be held 2-6 May, 2005 at the Clarion Hotel in RIPE> Stockholm, Sweden. Where else would Stockholm be but Sweden?

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RIPE 50: Registration Now Open
by RIPE NCC meeting coordinator 07 Mar '05

07 Mar '05

+++++++++++ <Apologies for Duplicates> Dear Colleagues, Registration for the RIPE 50 Meeting is now open. RIPE 50 will be held 2-6 May, 2005 at the Clarion Hotel in Stockholm, Sweden. REGISTRATION To register for RIPE 50, please go to the registration page at: https://lirportal.ripe.net/lirportal/meeting/register/3 MEETING FEE The registration fee of EUR 400 covers the full RIPE Meeting week. You receive a EUR 50 discount if your payment is received before 12:00 CET on 29 April 2005. Prepayment of the meeting fee is possible by bank transfer or online payment by credit card. All online credit card payments are secured. During the meeting, payment is possible by credit card or cash only. DAY TICKETS Day tickets for RIPE Meetings are being introduced at RIPE 50. Day tickets are valid for one day only. They can be purchased in advance through our online registration system, or onsite at the Registration Desk. Day tickets cost EUR 125 per day. MEETING PLAN At RIPE 50 we introduce a modified meeting plan. All presentations that were previously held in the EOF and the various Working Group meetings will now be combined into one stream of presentations during the first three days of RIPE 50. The last two days will be dedicated to the Working Group meetings that will have a better focus on actual work items. The program of the first three days will include presentations on: - new developments in BGP deployment - measurements of Internet performance parameters - IPv6 deployment - Internet security practises - reports on political developments such as WSIS - and many more The program will be published on the website as it develops. Suggestions and proposals for presentations are welcome, and can be sent to <meeting(a)ripe.net>. For more information about the RIPE 50 meeting plan, please see: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-50/meeting-plan.html TRAVEL VISA FOR SWEDEN If you require a visa to enter Sweden, please request one as soon as possible. We are pleased to provide you with an invitation letter upon request, after you have completed the meeting registration. RIPE 50 INFORMATION For further information on RIPE 50, please see: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-50/ Should you have any further questions, please contact us at: <meeting(a)ripe.net>. Regards, Camilla Meidell Conference Coordinator RIPE NCC

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New Document available: RIPE-343
by RIPE NCC Document Announcement Service 23 Feb '05

23 Feb '05

[apologies for duplicate e-mails] New RIPE Document Announcement -------------------------------------- A revised document is available from the RIPE document store. Ref: ripe-343 Title: IPv6 Address Space Management Author: Paul Wilson, Raymond Plzak, Axel Pawlik Date: 22 February 2005 Format: PS=53986 TXT=13567 Obsoletes: ripe-261 Short content description ------------------------- This document provides the management process for IPv6 global unicast address space whereby address allocations are made from a single global pool according to a "sparse allocation" algorithm. In this version, previously published as ripe-261, we fixed an error in the 6-bit address space table. Accessing the RIPE document store --------------------------------- You can access the RIPE documents in HTML format via our website at the following URL:. http://www.ripe.net/docs/ipv6-sparse.html The RIPE Document Store is also available via anonymous FTP to ftp.ripe.net, in the directory ripe/docs. The URLs for the new documents on the FTP-server are: ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-343.pdf PDF version ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-343.txt plain text version Kind Regards, RIPE NCC Document Announcement Service

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Draft Document: Policy Development Process in RIPE
by Rob Blokzijl 22 Dec '04

22 Dec '04

Policy Development Process in RIPE R.Blokzijl 21 December 2004 1. Introduction Since its creation in 1989, RIPE has from time to time agreed on common practices. These common practices may come in different forms and/or under different names: - best common practice (or BCP), - recommendations to the community, - requests to the RIPE NCC, - recommendations to the RIPE NCC, - or just policy. In this document they are all called 'Policy'. The process that results in a policy has a few important and fundamental principles: a. it is open to all. Everyone interested in the wellbeing of the Internet may propose a policy, and take part in the discussions. b. it is transparent. All discussions and results are documented and freely available to all. c. conclusions are reached by consensus. This process has worked quite well over the years. This document does not seek to change that. What this document does try to accomplish is a description of the process that will improve its management. 2. The Process. In the process of developping a policy several distinct phases are identified: 1. Proposal Phase 2. Discussion Phase 3. Review Phase 4. Concluding Phase Each of these phases are detailed below. The whole process is summarised in a diagram, attached as Appendix A. This diagram contains timelines for the various stages of the process. These timelines are meant as defaults, or minimum timelines: individual proposals may define their own timelines. 2.1 Proposal Phase Discussions may be started by anyone at any time. Participants are welcome to discuss broad ideas as well as make detailed policy proposals. Proposals are made using a Policy Proposal template [TEMPLATE Appendix B]. The template forms a structure for the proposal. It details the reason for the proposal and any perceived consequences of the proposal. The RIPE NCC (the RIPE community's secretariat) identifies proposals with a number and publishes them in the appropriate section of the relevant working groups web pages. The page will indicate the version history and status of proposals: - Open for Discussion; - Agreed or - Withdrawn. Anyone that wants to draft a policy proposal may seek assistance from the RIPE NCC. The RIPE NCC will provide relevant facts, statistics and an assessment of the work involved in implementation of a proposal. The RIPE NCC will also assist with the drafting of text if its editorial services are required. A proposal is usually submitted via the chair of the relevant working group of RIPE. In case a working group can not easily be identified, the proposal may be submitted to the RIPE Chair. 2.2 Discussion Phase. Once a proposal has been submitted it will be announced on a dedicated mailing list to which anybody can subscribe: <policy-announce(a)ripe.net>. This announcement will also indicate where discussion on this proposal will take place. Usually this will be the relevant working group mailing list. Where a policy change would result in an amendment to a published policy document, the textual changes are initially published as a draft document for community review and comment. There may be multiple iterations of a draft document if there is significant comment and change suggested. The discussion phase will have a limited time period, but not less then four weeks. 2.3 Review Phase Following the conclusion of the comment period the RIPE Working Group Chair determines whether the working group has reached consensus. If consensus has not been reached then the proposer may decide to withdraw the proposal. Alternatively, a new round of discussion and documentation may occur. 2.4 Concluding Phase When the RIPE Working Group Chair determines that the working group has reached a consensus, s/he moves the proposal to a Last Call for comments. The Last Call announcement is posted to the working group mailing list, the Last Call announcements mailing list and Chairs of all working groups. At the end of the Last Call period the working group chairs will decide together whether a consensus has been achieved If a consensus has been achieved, the RIPE NCC will announce the decision of the RIPE Working Group Chairs and implement the policy, if needed. If consensus has not been achieved the proposer (or anyone else) is free to return the proposal to the working group for further discussion. [TEMPLATE Appendix B] 1. Number (assigned by the RIPE NCC) 2. Policy Proposal Name: 3. Author a. name: b. e-mail: c. telephone: d. organisation: 4. Proposal Version: 5. Submission Date: 6. Suggested WG for discussion and publication 7. Proposal type: a. new, modify, or delete. 8. Policy term: a. temporary, permanent, or renewable. 9. Summary of proposal 10. Policy text a. Current (if modify): b. New: 11. Rationale: a. Arguments supporting the proposal b. Arguments opposing the proposal

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RIPE NCC closed on December 24
by Saskia van Gorp 22 Dec '04

22 Dec '04

Dear Colleagues, Our offices are closed on Friday 24 December 2004. We will reopen on Monday 27 December 2004. Our offices close on all Dutch public holidays listed at: http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/about/public-holidays.html Regards, Saskia van Gorp Front Office Manager RIPE NCC

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Announcement: Policy Development Process in RIPE
by Rob Blokzijl 21 Dec '04

21 Dec '04

To the RIPE Community, later today I will publish a draft document that describes the policy making process in RIPE. It is draft, so your input is requested in order to come to a generally accepted final document. Logistics: - deadline for comments on the first draft: 1 Februari 2005 - discussion takes place on ripe-list(a)ripe.net - if you are not subscribed to ripe-list(a)ripe.net yet, go to http://www.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-list#subscribers - for any questions, don't hesitate to contact chair(a)ripe.net As always, apologies for receiving multiple copies of this announcement. Best regards, Rob Blokzijl RIPE Chairman

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about ripe.db on ftp.ripe.net
by Francisco Guerreiro 15 Dec '04

15 Dec '04

Hi, I'm doing a statistic work on ripe.db for my University (Faculty of Science of the Lisbon University) and I downloaded ripe.db.inetnum (from the split files directory) so I can do statistics on several portuguese speaking countrys and Portugal itself. The ripe.db.inetnum suits my needs exactly but the admin-c: and tech-c: objects refer to person: objects which can't be found on ripe.db. I've googled a bit and found reference (back in 1993) of a split of ripe.db named ripe.db.person which probably had the additional information I need. Since I don't see that ripe.db.person anywhere on the ftp and the other .db files don't have person: objects, I was wondering if they were removed due to spam issues or something, since they're accessible through normal whois.ripe.net query's (which are bound to massive querying limits). Could someone shed some light into this matter? regards, Francisco Guerreiro

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Re: about ripe.db on ftp.ripe.net
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 15 Dec '04

15 Dec '04

>> objects, I was wondering if they were removed due to spam issues or=20 >> something, since they're accessible through normal whois.ripe.net=20 >> query's (which are bound to massive querying limits). >> Could someone shed some light into this matter? > >Afaik they where removed because people used them for mass marketing >(thus including spam). Exactly. There's probably more than one way to still do what you think is useful or necessary: - try to select from the inet[6]num split files those entries which are "interesting" and query the contacts from the live DB (subject to Q limits - see next bullet) - talk to the DB operators (ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net), explain to them what you inted to do, and why, and get an exemption from the Q-limit - talk to the DB operators and explain what your want to do, and why, and ask for access to the "missing" person,... split file. This might solve your problem if you want to perform a snapshot analsys - if you want to run your analysis on a more regular basis, then getting an NRTM[1] set up at your site might be a better solution. This requires a formal agreement with the NCC about the DO's and DON'Ts, again talk to ripe-dbm. [1] Near(ly) Real Time Mirror. Hth, Wilfried ( https://cert.aco.net/ ) _________________________________:_____________________________________ Wilfried Woeber : e-mail: Woeber(a)CC.UniVie.ac.at UniVie Computer Center - ACOnet : Tel: +43 1 4277 - 140 33 Universitaetsstrasse 7 : Fax: +43 1 4277 - 9 140 A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe : RIPE-DB: WW144, PGP keyID 0xF0ACB369 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ...there's no place like 127.0.0.1 (or 0::1/128 ?)

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Re: about ripe.db on ftp.ripe.net
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 15 Dec '04

15 Dec '04

>On 15 Dec 2004, at 08:57, Jeroen Massar wrote: > >> If you want to see the amount of 'same persons' you >> can also compare the handles themselves... > >To some extent. A number of individuals have multiple handles. >Possible reasons include: > - no housekeeping after someone moved to a new job, > - automatic introduction of new handles during bulk operations. - and ERX :-( As an example, submit a query on "Walter Kunft" ... >Best regards, > >Niall O'Reilly > >PGP key ID: AE995ED9 (see www.pgp.net) >Fingerprint: 23DC C6DE 8874 2432 2BE0 3905 7987 E48D AE99 5ED9 Wilfried.

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NRO Response to ITU Comments on the Management of Internet Protocol (IP) Addresses
by Axel Pawlik 15 Nov '04

15 Nov '04

Dear Colleagues, As part of the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) process, a proposal has been made that could dramatically affect the way Internet number resources are distributed and managed. On 21 October 2004, the Director of ITU-TSB published a memorandum, "ITU and Internet Governance" for public comment. This memorandum includes a proposal to create a new IPv6 address space distribution process, based solely on national authorities. This could have a serious impact on RIPE NCC Members, Internet operators and the global Internet community at large. The Number Resource Organization (NRO), on behalf of the Regional Internet Registries, has prepared a public response to the ITU memorandum detailing the flaws of the proposal and the negative impact it would have on Internet operations. A summary of this response is available at: http://www.nro.net/documents/nro18.html The full response is available at: http://www.nro.net/documents/nro17.html The original ITU memorandum is available at: http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/tsb-director/itut-wsis/files/zhao-netgov01.doc We urge our members and others in the Internet community to make their views about this issue known. Without your support being *visible* and *explicit* the bottom-up, consensus based model on which the success of the Internet has been founded may be replaced by the top-down bureaucracy of "Internet Governance". To show your support: - RIPE NCC Members: Log in to the LIR Portal and tick the support box. If you do not have an LIR Portal account, please email your expression of support to: contact(a)ripe.net - Non-members: Please email to: im-support(a)ripe.net. An email archive of expressions of support will be available at: http://www.ripe.net/maillists/ncc-archives/im-support/ - ITU-TSB Members: Please also contact your ITU member state representative to voice your concerns you might have. Internet number resource distribution is fair and accessible to all. Its policy development process is open and transparent. It works. Let us keep it that way. Regards, Axel Pawlik Managing Director RIPE NCC

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