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European email users
by Denis.Russell＠ncl.ac.uk 08 Aug '94

08 Aug '94

Does anyone have any figures for the number of email users in Europe? (I know about Marten's DNS counts, but this is a different question). Denis. Denis Russell email: Denis.Russell(a)ncl.ac.uk Computing Service Tel: (+44) 91 222 8243 University of Newcastle Fax: (+44) 91 222 8765 Newcastle upon Tyne Telex: 53654 UNINEW G NE1 7RU ENGLAND

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Visas for Lisbon RIPE meeting
by Anne Lord 04 Aug '94

04 Aug '94

If you need a "letter of invitation" to the forthcoming RIPE meeting in Lisbon in September, can you please let us know as soon as possible. This may take longer than usual due to the August holidays, so it is better organised now than later. If you need a letter, please send a message to <ncc(a)ripe.net>. Thanks, Anne RIPE NCC ------------

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new position at EUnet NOC in Amsterdam: Senior Technical Staff Member
by Glenn.Kowack＠eu.net 25 Jul '94

25 Jul '94

To All RIPE List Inhabitants; Please re-distribute and forward this announcement as appropriate. regards, Glenn ____________________________ Job Posting and Call for Applicants ----------------------------------- Senior Member of Technical Staff, EUnet ----------------------------------- The EUnet European Network Operations Center in Amsterdam has an po- sition open for a Senior Member of our Technical Staff. The posi- tion will report directly to the EUnet Managing Director in Amster- dam, and will work locally with EUnet Amsterdam Network Operations Center staff and remotely with EUnet national networks' technical staff throughout the greater European region. The position's duties include: ------------------------------------------------- - Direct technical support for EUnet European operations. - Indirect technical support for EUnet national operations. - Technical analysis and reporting. - Development and refinement of EUnet services and procedures. - Network planning both at the NOC and across Europe, including recommending future technical directions, network topology, and purchasing of equipment, services, and telecommunications media. - Evaluation and development of high-level services. - Participation, in a leadership role, in EUnet technical meetings. - Technical coordination with other international and national networks, and representation of EUnet at external meetings and technical conferences as required (e.g,. IETF). Candidate Qualifications and Professional Background: ----------------------------------------------------- - Significant experience in international or national level network operations and planning, including: - network system hardware and software technology, - protocols, routing, network management, and related technologies, especially the Internet suite of protocols and their use (familiarity with OSI protocols is a plus), - unix system internals and administration, - trouble desk operations, - network architecture, - operational planning and management, including budgeting and purchasing specification, - high-level service design and use, and - user support. - A technical degree in a related field such as Computer Science, Engineering, or Mathematics. - Strong interpersonal skills and the ability to lead technical staff dispersed throughout the European region, and to work closely with other international networks and networking organizations. - Sensitivity to user needs and requirements. - Fluency in both written and spoken English (fluency in one additional European language is preferred). - Willing and able to travel. Other Considerations -------------------- EUnet operates in an environment which depends upon efficiency, reliability, energy, and creativity. The successful applicant will enjoy a challenging, fast-moving environment which will exercise a broad range of skills, and be able to adapt to a varying work load and schedule. The applicant should be able to work independently, and also via the network with many different people within the European region and around the world. EUnet and Internetworking in general are undergoing significant change and rapid growth. The senior technologist who fills this job will have significant impact on the future directions and technical character of EUnet. EUnet offers competitive salary and benefits. Please Direct Enquiries To: --------------------------- Glenn Kowack Tel: +31 20 592-5109 EUnet Fax: +31 20 592-5155 Kruislaan 409 E-mail: office(a)eu.net 1098 SJ Amsterdam The Netherlands Applications should include detailed CV and work history. The Organization ---------------- EUnet is the leader in providing pan-European commercial Internet services and connectivity. In operation since 1982, EUnet today consists of 30 national networks ranging from the Nordic countries to Northern Africa, and from Iceland to Vladivostok. The EUnet user community consists of over 10,000 sites and networks. EUnet provides the full suite of internet-related services such as Electronic Mail, File Transfer, Remote Login, Network News, and Archive Access, WWW and related services, as well as X.400 and other services. EUnet is a member of the CIX Association, The ISODE Consortium, RARE, and RIPE. ______

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Re: Bangemann Commission Document available from the Web
by Nadine Grange 19 Jul '94

19 Jul '94

Please remove my e-mail address from your replies on my initial announcement of the availability of the Bangemann's report. The DG13 has set up a generic address to receive comments on the Bangemann's report: rcu1(a)dg13.cec.be Please use it. Thanks, /Nadine

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by Ljubomir Marchev 19 Jul '94

19 Jul '94

Dear ALL, I`m looking for more information on Novell DOS 7 API. Particularly for multitasking API to **taskmgr**. Also, I`m looking for more information for all the Cyrix 486 processors, especially for internal registers, etc. May somebody help me ? ------------------------- Ljubomir Marchev Institute Of Mathematics Sofia Bulgaria

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Bogus in-addr.arpa NS RRs
by Erik-Jan Bos 19 Jul '94

19 Jul '94

RIPE List, Hostmaster, maybe you already heard about this, but please be aware that there is bogus in-addr.arpa info out there. This is really service affecting, we already had some major complaints at SURFnet. Can Hostmaster please contact the site SCITEX.COM (SCITEX Corp. Ltd., 8 Oak Park Drive, Bedford, MA 01730). After this is done w'all need to flush some caches I am afraid. Thanks to Hans van Staveren for forwarding this to us. ------- Forwarded Message Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 15:30:36 +0700 From: Hans van Staveren <sater(a)cs.vu.nl> To: netmaster(a)surfnet.nl Subject: [Joseph Malcolm: ns.nasa.gov handing out bogus information for IN-ADDR .ARPA] Hiero - ----- Forwarded message # 1: Received: from top.cs.vu.nl by zephyr.cs.vu.nl id aa00497; 19 Jul 94 1:56 MET DST Received: from zephyr.cs.vu.nl by top.cs.vu.nl id aa00721; 19 Jul 94 1:55 MET DST Received: from hearnvax.nic.surfnet.nl by zephyr.cs.vu.nl id aa00491; 19 Jul 94 1:55 MET DST Received: from ruulet (ruulet.let.ruu.nl) by HEARNVAX.nic.SURFnet.nl (PMDF V4.2-12 #3330) id <01HEVGFQPSHS00F9Z4(a)HEARNVAX.nic.SURFnet.nl>; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 01:55:56 +0200 (MET-DST) Received: from relay1.UU.NET by ruulet.let.ruu.nl (PMDF #2703 ) id <01HEVGFEP3PS001J58(a)ruulet.let.ruu.nl>; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 01:55:40 GMT Received: by relay1.UU.NET (relay) id QQwzdk19431; Mon, 18 Jul 1994 19:06:46 -0400 Received: from odin.UU.NET by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (relay) id QQwzdk19427; Mon, 18 Jul 1994 19:06:44 -0400 Received: by odin.UU.NET (maildrop) id QQwzdk16643; Mon, 18 Jul 1994 19:06:37 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 19:06:37 -0400 From: Joseph Malcolm <jmalcolm(a)uunet.uu.net> Subject: ns.nasa.gov handing out bogus information for IN-ADDR.ARPA To: bind(a)uunet.uu.net Errors-to: postmaster(a)let.ruu.nl Reply-to: bind(a)ucbarpa.berkeley.edu Message-id: <QQwzdk16643.199407182306(a)odin.UU.NET> X-Envelope-to: binders(a)cs.vu.NL Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT If any name server administrators out there have been wondering where those bogus records for in-addr.arpa have been coming from, I think I have an answer. (This also explains why the nifty-neato login in newer binds to throw bogus info away isn't working - of course a root server can be trusted for in-addr.arpa...) I've reached someone at the Internic, who will get ahold of the appropriate parties at NASA. jmalcolm@odin [/apps/dns/etc] 1-227> dig @128.102.16.10 in-addr.arpa ns ; <<>> DiG 2.0 <<>> @128.102.16.10 in-addr.arpa ns ; (1 server found) ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10 ;; flags: qr rd ra; Ques: 1, Ans: 1, Auth: 1, Addit: 1 ;; QUESTIONS: ;; in-addr.arpa, type = NS, class = IN ;; ANSWERS: in-addr.arpa. 555875 NS ird.scitex.com. ;; AUTHORITY RECORDS: IN-ADDR.ARPA. 555875 NS ird.scitex.com. ;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS: ird.scitex.com. 172800 A 149.115.100.3 ;; Total query time: 5110 msec ;; FROM: odin.UU.NET to SERVER: 128.102.16.10 ;; WHEN: Mon Jul 18 18:40:33 1994 ;; MSG SIZE sent: 30 rcvd: 100 - ----- End of forwarded messages ------- End of Forwarded Message __ Erik-Jan.

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Re: Bangemann Commission Document available from the Web
by P.Bryant 16 Jul '94

16 Jul '94

In message Wed, 13 Jul 94 12:48:12 BST, Toerless Eckert <Toerless.Eckert(a)INFORMATIK.UNI-ERLANGEN.DE> writes: > >> A very obvious aspect of the Bangemann report is that it at several >> places and in emphasized typography claims that the development of the >> European Information Highway should be a fully market driven effort >> and that governmental subsidies should be avoided. Rings some bells ?-! >> Not being a politician I might completely have missinterpreted the fine >> tunes of the report though :-). > > What is a market anyway ? Is education, research, real-estate, housing, > welfare, etc pp a market ? There are many opinions and many different > ways to interpret such things and the EU usually has jet another > interpretation. > > Toerless > > P.S.: GOVT SUX BUT remember what happened when an EU initiative was not market driven. Remember GOSSIP. I have a tender request in front of me from a Government department which demands GOSIP compliance. They want some PCs on a LAN connected to a data-base UNIX engine with access to JANET. All because of EU legislation attempting to lead rather respond to the market. With IP the project would be trivial. Otherwise where do I get GOSIP software for a PC? I can just about get it for X.400 and X.29 but FTAM? You will also need a gateway to Couloured book or IP to get into JANET. Paul. Paul Bryant. Rutherford Lab, Chilton, Didcot, OX11 0QX, GB Tel. +44 235 445 267 Fax. +44 235 446 626

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The Bangemann report.
by boss＠it.kth.se 15 Jul '94

15 Jul '94

I have picked some parts of the Bangemann report and appended below as a response to previous comments. Please note the section on Internet at the end. It of course recommended that those interested should take part of the full report available on-line as has been announced. One could question the influence this report will have. The group consisted of some major European industrial leaders and Bangemann (German commisionair ?) who was, I think, suggested as one of the many candidates to replace Jaques Delors. Bernhard. ======================================================================== An Action Plan - summary of recommendations This Report urges the European Union to put its faith in market mechanisms as the motive power to carry us into the Information Age. This means that actions must be taken at the European level and by Member States to strike down entrenched positions which put Europe at a competitive disadvantage: - it means fostering an entrepreneurial mentality to enable the emergence of new dynamic sectors of the economy - it means developing a common regulatory approach to bring forth a competitive, Europe-wide, market for information services - it does NOT mean more public money, financial assistance, subsidies, dirigisme, or protectionism. In addition to its specific recommendations, the Group proposes an Action Plan of concrete initiatives based on a partnership between the private and public sectors to carry Europe forward into the information society. ................................. An Action Plan This Report outlines our vision of the information society and the benefits it will deliver to our citizens and to economic operators. It points to areas in which action is needed now so we can start out on the market-led passage to the new age, as well as to the agents which can drive us there. As requested in the Council's mandate, we advocate an Action Plan based on specific initiatives involving partnerships linking public and private sectors. Their objective is to stimulate markets so that they can rapidly attain critical mass. In this sector, private investment will be the driving force. Monopolistic, anticompetitive environments are the real roadblocks to such involvement. The situation here is completely different from that of other infrastructural investments where public funds are still crucial, such as transport. This sector is in rapid evolution. The market will drive, it will decide winners and losers. Given the power and pervasiveness of the technology, this market is global. "THE MARKET WILL DRIVE ... THE PRIME TASK OF GOVERNMENT IS TO SAFEGUARD COMPETITIVE FORCES...." The prime task of government is to safeguard competitive forces and ensure a strong and lasting political welcome for the information society, so that demand-pull can finance growth, here as elsewhere. By sharing our vision, and appreciating its urgency, Europe's decision-makers can make the prospects for our renewed economic and social development infinitely brighter. ............................. The Group recommends Member States to accelerate the ongoing process of liberalisation of the telecom sector by: opening up to competition infrastructures and services still in the monopoly area removing non commercial political burdens and budgetary constraints imposed on telecommunications operators setting clear timtables and dead lines for the implementation of practical measures to achieve these goals. ........................ The Group recommends a review of the European standardisation! process in order to increase its speed and responsiveness to markets. - Urgent action to adjust tariffs Reduction in international, long distance and leased line tariffs will trigger expansion in the usage of infrastructures, generating additional revenues, and simultaneously giving a major boost to generic services and innovative applications ........................... The Group recommends as a matter of urgency the adjustment of international, long distance and leased line tariffs to bring these down into line with rates practised in other advanced industrialised regions. Adjustment of tariffs should be accompanied by the fair sharing of public service obligations among operators. ............................ New basic services are needed New basic services such as e-mail, file transfer and interactive multimedia are needed. The necessary technology is available. New networks are developing, such as ISDN, eliminating the present limitations of the telephone network. Two basic elements are needed for such services: unambiguous standards and critical mass. The attraction of a telecommunications service depends directly on the number of other compatible users. Thus, a new service cannot really take off until a certain number of customers has subscribed to the service. Once this critical mass has been achieved, growth rates can increase dramatically, as in the case of INTERNET. INTERNET is based on a world-wide network of networks that is not centrally planned. In fact, nobody owns INTERNET. There are now some 20 million users in more than 100 countries. The network offers electronic mail, discussion fora, information exchange and much more. INTERNET is so big, and growing so fast, that it cannot be ignored. Nevertheless, it has flaws, notably serious security problems. Rather than remaining merely clients, we in Europe should consider following the evolution of INTERNET closely, playing a more active role in the development of interlinkages.

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Re: Bangemann Commission Document available from the Web
by Dave Morton 15 Jul '94

15 Jul '94

Bernhard, I'd be more worried from an Internet perspective about all the talk in the report of a "single regulatory framework" and then the "European Basic Services Forum" (in the context of the Internet at least) seems to me to be more or less equal to some of the ideas behind the EOF initiative. Dave

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Re: Bangemann Commission Document available from the Web
by Dave Morton 15 Jul '94

15 Jul '94

> >PS: Recevied some really cool tarrifs a few days ago from DBP Telekom > >for participation in the 18 PTO ATM pilot. Effectively they prohibit > >participation if you're in DE. > >this, of course, is the least funny situation in europe Agreed... >the DBP are legally in breach of several EU directives So what's new in the EU !! >in one of our race projects, their tarrif for 34Mbps access was over >20 times that of the next most expensive, and app[roaching 35 times >that of the equivalent tariffed uk service Recent comment supposedly from a German university professor - "well me might be able to use it for 10 minutes a day between here and France if we're lucky !!" >irrelevant of ATM, they are a disgrace to modern markets and are a >restraint of trade to network subscribers and other providers who >could easily blow them away if they didn't have a protectionist >government > >i find their attitude deeply offensive. > >seriously. No need to preach to the converted... > jon > dave

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