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Re: The use of high speed (>34Mbit/s) within Europe
by Howard.Davies＠dante.org.uk 04 Nov '96

04 Nov '96

At 16:52 04.11.96, Denis.Russell(a)ncl.ac.uk wrote: >I hope this query is a reasonable use of this list. I have been asked to >come up with a summary of the use of high speed (which means more than E3 - >34Mbit/s in this context) in Europe. The query really means off campus, >rather than FDDI and Fast Ethernet within an organization. I have a >reasonable idea of the picture within the UK (SuperJANET, and the various >MAN initiatives), but my picture across Europe is much more patchy. There >are a few pointers that I have been given, and I've just emailed off some >specific queries to some folk (some of whom are also on this list, so >please forgive me for pestering you with a similar query). > >So, please, if you know of any communication at these speeds that is >outside the "local area", please drop me an email. I would very much >appreciate a specific references that I can quote (URL to something pretty >and informative would be good). Anything outside the local area qualifies, >whether it is a few miles across a city, a national initiative, a >trans-european link, or even an international link. However, I really would >appreciate it if you could make the destinction between those things that >are actually shifting bits now, and those that are merely figments on a >proposal. > >I will of course, summarise to the list. > > Denis. > Denis, In relation to our planning, ie that of DANTE and the NRNs participating in TEN-34, I recently sent out a simple questionnaire (copy below) concerning the use of 155 Mbit/s services. I have had nine responses so far but I hesitate to pass them on without seeking the agreement of my informants (data provided for one purpose should not be used for other purposes etc - even if it is not personal). Can you please let me know a bit more about the purpose of your own questions? I know how difficult it is to get hold of reliable information and I would like to share what we have both got as long as this is legitimate. Best wishes, Howard --------------------------------- 1. Do you already have any 155 Mbit/s links in service? Yes/no If yes, how many organisations/sites are connected? Skip to question 4 2. Do you have any 155 Mbit/s links in use for testing purposes? Yes/no If yes, when do you expect to start (national) services based on such links? Skip to question 4 3. Do you have any plans to install (national) 155 Mbit/s links for testing or for operational services? Yes/no If yes, when do you expect the first installations to be made? 4. Given the plans for TEN-34, at what date would you (realistically) like to see an international (European) 155 Mbit/s service in place? 5. Can you give us a pointer to any document (or Web page etc) which briefly describes your activities/plans/strategy in relation to 155 Mbit/s services? Since the answers to the questions should be easy to provide, could you please respond before (or, at the latest, at) next Tuesday's SG meeting. If there is any information you wish to add, you are of course welcome to do so. end

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RIPE25: Draft Minutes available: ripe-m-25
by RIPE NCC 04 Nov '96

04 Nov '96

RIPE Minutes Announcement ------------------------- The RIPE25 minutes are now available from the RIPE document store : ripe-m-25 25th meeting 1996 September NIKHEF/CWI - Amsterdam The minutes are unfortunately not available yet on the RIPE WWW server (except for the link to the FTP site from http://www.ripe.net) The RIPE Meeting minutes are available via anonymous FTP to ftp.ripe.net, in the directory ripe/minutes. The full filenames of the new minutes on the FTP-server are: ripe/docs/ripe-m-25.ps for the PostScript version ripe/docs/ripe-m-25.txt for the plain text version The minutes can also be retrieved using a mail server program. For more information on how to use the program, send email to <mail-server(a)ripe.net> with "send HELP" in the body text.

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The use of high speed (>34Mbit/s) within Europe
by Denis.Russell＠ncl.ac.uk 04 Nov '96

04 Nov '96

I hope this query is a reasonable use of this list. I have been asked to come up with a summary of the use of high speed (which means more than E3 - 34Mbit/s in this context) in Europe. The query really means off campus, rather than FDDI and Fast Ethernet within an organization. I have a reasonable idea of the picture within the UK (SuperJANET, and the various MAN initiatives), but my picture across Europe is much more patchy. There are a few pointers that I have been given, and I've just emailed off some specific queries to some folk (some of whom are also on this list, so please forgive me for pestering you with a similar query). So, please, if you know of any communication at these speeds that is outside the "local area", please drop me an email. I would very much appreciate a specific references that I can quote (URL to something pretty and informative would be good). Anything outside the local area qualifies, whether it is a few miles across a city, a national initiative, a trans-european link, or even an international link. However, I really would appreciate it if you could make the destinction between those things that are actually shifting bits now, and those that are merely figments on a proposal. I will of course, summarise to the list. Denis. Denis Russell email: Denis.Russell(a)ncl.ac.uk Computing Service Tel: (+44) 191 222 8243 University of Newcastle Fax: (+44) 191 222 8765 Newcastle upon Tyne NE1 7RU ENGLAND

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New Document available: ripe-149
by RIPE NCC Document Annoucement Service 30 Oct '96

30 Oct '96

New/Revised RIPE Document Announcement -------------------------------------- A revised/new document is available from the RIPE document store. Ref: ripe-149 Title: Security Incident Coordination at the RIPE NCC ?! Notes Author: D. Karrenberg Date: 30 Oct 1996 Format: Obsoletes: Obsoleted by: Updates: Updated by: See also: Short content description ------------------------- This document argues that the RIPE NCC should provide security incident coordination services currently widely known as CERT-like services in 1997. It describes a current initiative to set up a pilot service and calls on the European ISPs to support this project. A time table for further actions is given. The RIPE NCC contributors should take note ! Discussion is most welcome. MIME Mail Reader ---------------- The following message body parts contain the data which will enable a MIME compliant Mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the RIPE document by FTP or mail server. FTP Access ---------- All RIPE documents and Internet RFC`s are available via anonymous FTP from host ftp.ripe.net. Type "ftp ftp.ripe.net". Login with username "anonymous" supplying your email address as the password. After logging in, type "cd ripe/docs/" followed by the command "get filename". The relevant filenames for this document are: ripe-149.txt for the ASCII version ripe-149.ps for the PostScript version Electronic Mail Retrieval of Documents -------------------------------------- Documents can also be retrieved from the RIPE document store using a mail server program. For more information on how to use the program, send email to: mail-server(a)ripe.net with "send HELP" in the body text. RIPE NCC Interactive Information Server --------------------------------------- Type "telnet info.ripe.net". This is a menu driven service allows the document store to be browsed. After reading documents you are prompted as to whether you would like to receive an email copy of the document you have just read. If you would, you simply enter your email address and the document will be mailed to you. BEGIN SEND ripe/docs/ripe-149.txt

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New Document available: ripe-148
by RIPE NCC Document Annoucement Service 22 Oct '96

22 Oct '96

New/Revised RIPE Document Announcement -------------------------------------- A revised/new document is available from the RIPE document store. Ref: ripe-148 Title: Quarterly Report - Second Quarter 1996 Notes Author: P. Ridley Date: 22 Oct 1996 Format: PS=323594 TXT=45992 Obsoletes: Obsoleted by: Updates: ripe-135 Updated by: See also: ripe-135, ripe-139 Short content description ------------------------- This is the RIPE NCC quarterly report for the second quarter of 1996. MIME Mail Reader ---------------- The following message body parts contain the data which will enable a MIME compliant Mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the RIPE document by FTP or mail server. FTP Access ---------- All RIPE documents and Internet RFC`s are available via anonymous FTP from host ftp.ripe.net. Type "ftp ftp.ripe.net". Login with username "anonymous" supplying your email address as the password. After logging in, type "cd ripe/docs/" followed by the command "get filename". The relevant filenames for this document are: ripe-148.txt for the ASCII version ripe-148.ps for the PostScript version Electronic Mail Retrieval of Documents -------------------------------------- Documents can also be retrieved from the RIPE document store using a mail server program. For more information on how to use the program, send email to: mail-server(a)ripe.net with "send HELP" in the body text. RIPE NCC Interactive Information Server --------------------------------------- Type "telnet info.ripe.net". This is a menu driven service allows the document store to be browsed. After reading documents you are prompted as to whether you would like to receive an email copy of the document you have just read. If you would, you simply enter your email address and the document will be mailed to you. BEGIN SEND ripe/docs/ripe-148.txt

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EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY at TERENA
by John DYER 15 Oct '96

15 Oct '96

Dear RIPE Members Apologies if you receive more than one copy of this mail. The following vacancy for a PDO is being advertised. I would appreciate you assistance in widely disseminating the information to anyone you think might be interested. Thank You John DYER * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY IN NETWORKING AT TERENA * * 7/10/96 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * PROJECT DEVELOPMENT OFFICER (PDO) Trans-European Research and Education Networking Association (TERENA) The Organisation The Trans-European Research and Education Networking Association (TERENA) is a pan European organisation representing all major research networks of Europe. The primary objective of TERENA is the promotion and development of a high quality international information and telecommunications infrastructure to support European research and education. To meet this objective, TERENA has established a Technical Programme which is intended to encourage innovative and collaborative projects, encompassing involvement in the definition of standards, co-ordination with telecommunication operators, industry and governmental bodies. The majority of the work is undertaken by volunteer experts drawn from the TERENA community and organised into Working Groups and Task Forces for specific technical areas and activities. The working language of TERENA and its associated activities is English. The technical work of TERENA concerns the definition and management of leading edge networking projects including wide area ATM development, European Information Infrastructure, security and video conferencing. TERENA also organises a number of European networking conferences, workshops and symposia each year. The Post The TERENA technical staff consists of three Project Development Officers (PDOs) and a Chief Technical Officer who reports to the TERENA Secretary General. The staff work closely with the administrative staff making up a small international team of approximately twelve in the TERENA secretariat office in the centre of Amsterdam. Due to one of the current staff members taking up a position elsewhere, TERENA presently has a vacancy for a self motivated Project Development Officer. The PDO post will be for an initial one year period starting 1 January 1997, at the level of 40 hours per week (100%) in the TERENA Amsterdam office. TERENA offers a competitive package of salary and benefits which may include relocation expenses if appropriate. Duties Project Development Officers play an essential role in the development and co-ordination of the TERENA Technical Programme providing technical and administrative support to the TERENA Technical Committee, the Working Groups and Task Forces. Activities undertaken by the PDOs include participation in Working Group and Task Force meetings, writing of documentation including meeting minutes, overall project management and project co-ordination. Information dissemination through the World Wide Web, other on-line means and preparation of printed material are also important aspects of the PDOs work. There may also be the opportunity to make presentations on the work of TERENA at conferences and to participate in teaching sessions of training workshops. The management of technical projects is however a major component of the duties. The work will inevitably require some degree of travel. Qualifications Candidates should be educated to degree level and have a detailed understanding and experience of advanced computer networking. This should include a working knowledge of Internet and related standards preferably including an understanding of the international networking scene. An understanding of good project management practice from project definition, financial resourcing, definition and monitoring of milestones, through to completion and maintenance would be an advantage. A good knowledge of written and spoken English is essential. Willingness to travel on official business in Europe and possibly beyond is necessary. Further Information Further information on the technical aspects of the job may be obtained from John Dyer, TERENA Chief Technical Officer <dyer(a)terena.nl>. Applications Applications which must include the names and addresses of two confidential referees should be sent either electronically or in hardcopy to Ms Mina Jansse, TERENA Personnel and Organisation Officer <janssen(a)terena.nl>, before 1 November 1996. The intention is to hold interviews for short listed candidates in Amsterdam during the week commencing 18th November 1996. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Trans-European Research and Education Networking Association * * * * TERENA Tel : +31-20-639-1131 * * Singel 466-468 Fax : +31-20-639-3289 * * 1017 AW Amsterdam * * The Netherlands URL: http://www.terena.nl * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

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JENC8 "CALL FOR PAPERS" - May 12-15 1997, Edinburgh, Scotland
by RIPE NCC Staff 14 Oct '96

14 Oct '96

"8th Joint European Networking Conference" (JENC8) Edinburgh, Scotland, 12-15 May 1997 "Diversity and Integration: The New European Networking Landscape" The JENC8 "CALL FOR PAPERS" and general conference information is available via the Web. Please visit the JENC8 conference Web site for further information at: http://www.terena.nl/jenc8 For general enquiries please send a message to <jenc8-sec(a)TERENA.nl> or contact TERENA Secretariat Singel 466-468 NL - 1017 AW Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel: +31 20 639 1131 Fax: +31 20 639 3289 Email: jenc8-sec(a)TERENA.nl

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by c.quarta＠mail.clio.it 08 Oct '96

08 Oct '96

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Hostcount for September 1996
by Mirjam Kuehne 04 Oct '96

04 Oct '96

Dear all, Here is the hostcount for September 1996. The table shows an increase since last month of over 170,000 (or 5.7%) to a total of almost 3,300,000 hosts in the DNS in Europe. Over the last quarter the number of hosts in Europe increased by +12.5%. The UK shows the highest increase for September with more than 45,000(!) hosts more than in August. DE still has the highest total amount of hosts registered. Last month I reported about a few zones that showed a significant decrease of hosts. At least for AT we found a reason: lack of disc space to hold the complete output file. The count was repeated beginning of September. The corrected data for AT can be found at ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/hostcount/at.{output,error}.9608.gz The complete hostcount data can be found under ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/hostcount/ The graphical version of the hostcount can be found at ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/hostcount/RIPE-Hostcount-{Mo,Qu}.eps The translation of the country codes can be found at ftp://ftp.ripe.net/iso3166-countrycodes All this data can also be found at http://www.ripe.net/statistics/ I would like to thank all people who help me to create the hostcount every month by counting hosts locally: at Gerhard Winkler <winkler(a)cc.univie.ac.at> be Herman Moons <Herman.Moons(a)CS.kuleuven.ac.be> ch Marcel Schneider <hostmaster(a)nic.ch> cy Panagiotis Tzounakis <pj(a)ics.forth.gr> cz Jiri Orsag <Jiri.Orsag(a)eunet.cz> de Peter Koch <pk(a)TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE> dk Robert Martin-Legene <robert(a)dknet.dk> es Jose Sanchez-Seco <jose.sanchez(a)rediris.es> fi Petri Ojala <ojala(a)eunet.fi> fr Annie Renard <Annie.Renard(a)inria.fr> gr Dimitris Zisiadis <zisiadis(a)forthnet.gr> hr Ivan Maric <Ivan.Maric(a)stribor.srce.hr> hu Gabor Kiss <kissg(a)sztaki.hu> ie Mike Norris <mnorris(a)dalkey.hea.ie> il Sason Levi <sason(a)NetVision.net.il> it Antonio_Blasco Bonito <bonito(a)nis.garr.it> no Havard Eidnes <Havard.Eidnes(a)runit.sintef.no> pl Irek Neska <irek(a)nask.pl> pt Armando Domingues <fccn(a)dns.pt> ru Andrey Dobrotsvetov <adbr(a)ripn.net> sk Ivan Lescak <Ivan.Lescak(a)Slovakia.EU.net> Lubos Elias <Lubos.Elias(a)uakom.sk> sm Antonio_Blasco Bonito <bonito(a)nis.garr.it> tr Yener Yigit <yener(a)knidos.cc.metu.edu.tr> uk Kevin Hoadley <K.Hoadley(a)nosc.ja.net> If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Kind regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC RIPE DNS Hostcount Previous Count : Thu Aug 29 1996 This Count : Mon Sep 30 1996 CY SOA COUNTED DUPL REAL CHANGE ============================================================ al 5 79 0 79 - 1 am 8 209 8 201 + 64 at 3027 89579 9927 79652 + 5715 az 4 17 0 17 0 be 2845 48760 2224 46536 + 1424 bg 115 2870 153 2717 + 818 by 17 147 3 144 + 17 ch 4822 119279 5476 113803 + 4797 cy 109 915 15 900 - 72 cz 1205 37691 1271 36420 + 1676 de 19680 690881 39150 651731 +23931 dk 3005 97031 5458 91573 + 7217 dz 2 21 0 21 + 3 ee 388 7565 182 7383 + 547 eg 73 1690 35 1655 + 515 es 2764 95151 1646 93505 + 4669 fi 2876 327886 6175 321711 +23632 fo 23 89 1 88 + 2 fr 4760 216884 7468 209416 + 5804 gb 2 40 0 40 0 ge 13 164 3 161 + 28 gr 432 10610 556 10054 - 1631 hr 364 4339 696 3643 + 261 hu 702 27538 696 26842 + 829 ie 1114 24184 375 23809 + 1525 il 1560 47549 3186 44363 - 380 is 249 10544 97 10447 - 188 it 6162 142851 11523 131328 + 7402 li 70 220 54 166 + 28 lt 132 1503 69 1434 + 43 lu 193 2980 140 2840 + 42 lv 127 5391 196 5195 + 2094 ma 24 473 65 408 + 52 md 10 20 2 18 + 1 mk 20 227 16 211 + 27 mt 48 377 62 315 + 42 nl 7885 235681 8230 227451 + 6341 no 4316 137936 5083 132853 + 6172 pl 1668 46391 2226 44165 + 5328 pt 898 20118 791 19327 + 3186 ro 328 4538 169 4369 + 368 ru 1539 36037 2670 33367 + 2837 se 8060 222469 12386 210083 +13859 si 501 12450 1026 11424 + 712 sk 309 6773 301 6472 + 629 sm 10 611 277 334 + 25 su 549 16838 741 16097 + 1016 tn 5 51 7 44 + 1 tr 429 10613 590 10023 - 1384 ua 246 6157 1099 5058 - 53 uk 28478 736112 87896 648216 +45790 va 2 5 0 5 0 yu 139 2031 45 1986 + 225 ============================================================ 112312 3510565 220465 3290100 +175985

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New Document available: ripe-144
by RIPE NCC Document Annoucement Service 04 Oct '96

04 Oct '96

New/Revised RIPE Document Announcement -------------------------------------- A revised/new document is available from the RIPE document store. Ref: ripe-144 Title: RIPE NCC Activities & Expenditure 1997 Author: D. Karrenberg, M. Kuehne, C. Orange, P. Ridley Date: 3 October 1996 Format: PS=378607 TXT=72811 bytes Obsoletes: Obsoleted by: Updates: ripe-133 Updated by: See also: ripe-145 Short content description ------------------------- This document describes the RIPE NCC Activities and Expenditure for 1997 as approved by the Contributors Committee. The only change from the draft document is the deletion of activity N.4 "Industry Representation". MIME Mail Reader ---------------- The following message body parts contain the data which will enable a MIME compliant Mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the RIPE document by FTP or mail server. FTP Access ---------- All RIPE documents and Internet RFC`s are available via anonymous FTP from host ftp.ripe.net. Type "ftp ftp.ripe.net". Login with username "anonymous" supplying your email address as the password. After logging in, type "cd ripe/docs/" followed by the command "get filename". The relevant filenames for this document are: ripe-144.txt for the ASCII version ripe-144.ps for the PostScript version Electronic Mail Retrieval of Documents -------------------------------------- Documents can also be retrieved from the RIPE document store using a mail server program. For more information on how to use the program, send email to: mail-server(a)ripe.net with "send HELP" in the body text. RIPE NCC Interactive Information Server --------------------------------------- Type "telnet info.ripe.net". This is a menu driven service allows the document store to be browsed. After reading documents you are prompted as to whether you would like to receive an email copy of the document you have just read. If you would, you simply enter your email address and the document will be mailed to you. BEGIN SEND ripe/docs/ripe-144.txt

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