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Hostcount for May 1997
by Mirjam Kuehne 09 Jun '97

09 Jun '97

Dear all, Here is the hostcount for May 1997. The table shows an increase since last month of more than 200,000 (or 4.7%) to a total of more than 4,600,000 hosts in the DNS in Europe. DE shows the highest increase for May with almost 60,000 hosts more than in April. The hostcount can also be found under ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/hostcount. The graphical version of the hostcount can be found at ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/hostcount/RIPE-Hostcount-{Mo,Qu}.eps The translation of the country codes can be found at ftp://ftp.ripe.net/iso3166-countrycodes All this data can also be found at http://www.ripe.net/statistics/hostcount.html If you are intersted in the historic hostcount data, bunyip Information Services is hosting the complete set of data since 1994 under ftp://ftp.bunyip.com/pub/netstats/ripe I would like to thank all people who help me to create the hostcount every month by counting hosts locally: at Gerhard Winkler <winkler(a)cc.univie.ac.at> be Herman Moons <Herman.Moons(a)CS.kuleuven.ac.be> ch Marcel Schneider <hostmaster(a)nic.ch> cy Panagiotis Tzounakis <pj(a)ics.forth.gr> cz Jiri Orsag <Jiri.Orsag(a)eunet.cz> de Peter Koch <pk(a)TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE> dk Robert Martin-Legene <robert(a)dknet.dk> es Jose Sanchez-Seco <jose.sanchez(a)rediris.es> fi Petri Ojala <ojala(a)eunet.fi> fr Annie Renard <Annie.Renard(a)inria.fr> gr Dimitris Zisiadis <zisiadis(a)forthnet.gr> hr Ivan Maric <Ivan.Maric(a)stribor.srce.hr> hu Gabor Kiss <kissg(a)sztaki.hu> ie Mike Norris <mnorris(a)dalkey.hea.ie> il Sason Levi <sason(a)NetVision.net.il> it Antonio_Blasco Bonito <bonito(a)nis.garr.it> no Havard Eidnes <Havard.Eidnes(a)runit.sintef.no> pl Irek Neska <irek(a)nask.pl> pt Armando Domingues <fccn(a)dns.pt> ru Andrey Dobrotsvetov <adbr(a)ripn.net> sk Ivan Lescak <Ivan.Lescak(a)Slovakia.EU.net> Lubos Elias <Lubos.Elias(a)uakom.sk> sm Antonio_Blasco Bonito <bonito(a)nis.garr.it> tr Yener Yigit <yener(a)knidos.cc.metu.edu.tr> uk Kevin Hoadley <K.Hoadley(a)nosc.ja.net> Robert Stone <robert(a)nosc.ja.net> If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Kind regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC RIPE DNS Hostcount Previous Count : Tue Apr 29 1997 This Count : Fri May 30 1997 CY SOA COUNTED DUPL REAL CHANGE ============================================================ al 5 79 0 79 0 am 25 284 12 272 + 12 at 7055 107825 14086 93739 + 2192 az 6 76 1 75 + 3 ba 11 58 3 55 + 2 be 5207 90186 4005 86181 + 1107 bg 245 5382 235 5147 + 705 by 19 414 19 395 + 181 ch 11933 157983 11566 146417 +10370 cy 263 1982 20 1962 + 438 cz 3268 52206 2039 50167 + 1163 de 45406 941384 61001 880383 +59156 dk 22881 141593 11018 130575 + 3806 dz 2 32 1 31 + 1 ee 776 11433 528 10905 + 825 eg 200 2181 64 2117 + 282 es 4907 159522 4142 155380 + 2550 fi 5212 390608 8269 382339 +13996 fo 40 110 3 107 + 3 fr 8906 301268 14753 286515 + 1389 gb 2 40 0 40 0 ge 17 292 7 285 + 28 gr 949 22212 966 21246 - 794 hr 675 6726 1031 5695 - 200 hu 1602 44361 3432 40929 + 1406 ie 2472 33810 1499 32311 + 1243 il 2957 66878 5293 61585 + 2020 is 485 13643 202 13441 + 393 it 13989 261365 23399 237966 +12293 li 143 711 144 567 + 285 lt 326 2858 192 2666 + 480 lu 549 4182 367 3815 - 147 lv 292 7731 605 7126 + 454 ma 44 742 86 656 + 143 md 22 175 21 154 + 6 mk 35 411 23 388 + 68 mt 98 863 107 756 - 12 nl 16073 342751 15964 326787 +25668 no 8934 218669 11366 207303 +13768 pl 3865 73062 4164 68898 + 3107 pt 2051 35925 1803 34122 + 6116 ro 589 10617 517 10100 + 411 ru 4782 79028 7818 71210 + 5552 se 17233 302879 14695 288184 + 7738 si 1140 18498 1818 16680 + 224 sk 1279 12156 1938 10218 + 7 sm 14 1156 545 611 + 13 su 782 21846 1131 20715 + 76 tn 2 43 3 40 - 14 tr 2144 26601 2814 23787 + 1018 ua 487 13073 2793 10280 + 1385 uk 55247 981022 137585 843437 +25196 va 2 8 0 8 0 yu 471 3668 107 3561 + 788 ============================================================ 256119 4972608 374200 4598408 +206900

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(no subject)
by N Gnanamurugan 07 Jun '97

07 Jun '97

subscribe ripe-list __________________________________________________ N Gnanamurugan, Engineer, Gulfsat Communications Company, P.O Box 2400, | email:murugan@gulfsat.com Safat, | Ph:+965-328-0770 Kuwait. | Fax:+965-328-1311 _________________________________________________

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NCC Job Openings - Network Engineers
by Carol Orange 05 Jun '97

05 Jun '97

Hi all, We have placed an advertisement in the hopes of finding two Network Engineers to contribute to operations and development at the RIPE NCC. If you are interested or know someone who might be, please see http://www.ripe.net/info/employment/ for details. Greetings, Carol Orange RIPE NCC

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RIPE-158, the test traffic project design note is ready.
by Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE-NCC) 03 Jun '97

03 Jun '97

Dear All, The final version of the design note for the RIPE-NCC test traffic project is ready and can be found on the test-traffic home page: http://www.ripe.net/test-traffic This page also has copies of the slides shown at the Dublin RIPE meeting. Links to the note in the usual places as well as a copy on the ftp will appear later today. If you have any questions about the note or the project, please do not hesitate to contact us. Kind regards, Henk Uijterwaal ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal(a)ripe.net RIPE-NCC WWW: http://www.ripe.net/home/henk Kruislaan 409 Phone: +31.20.5925022 NL 1098 SJ Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5925090 The Netherlands Home: +31.20.6651962 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ %DCL-E-NOCFFE, unable to locate coffee - keyboard input suspended.

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RIPE 27 - Plenary Agenda
by ncc＠ripe.net 20 May '97

20 May '97

------- Forwarded Message (headers stripped) RIPE 27 Agenda Thursday 22 May - 14:00 h ------------------------- 1. Opening 2. Agenda 3. Minutes RIPE 26 4. Actions RIPE 26 5. Top Level Domains - Report from BoF - Discussion and Conclusions - - - - - - - - Coffee Break - - - - - - - 6. RIPE NCC Report 7. RIPE NCC - New Structure 8. Report from the IETF 9. Technical Reports - TEN-34 - i-Pass Friday 23 May - 09:00 h ----------------------- 10. RIPE NCC - Test Traffic Measurements 11. WG and BoF Reports - - - - - - - - Coffee Break - - - - - - - WG and Bof Reports 12. Next Meetings 13. A.O.B. 14 Closing ------- End of Forwarded Message

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RIPE27: terminal room information
by Rene Wilhelm 16 May '97

16 May '97

As with previous RIPE-meetings, a terminal room will be available. DCU, the local host, provides PCs with MS-Windows and also made provisions for connecting laptop computers. Note that for the laptops European style power sockets will be available, so in the terminal room most people can do without an additional adaptor. For those who need to set packet filters, the terminal room will use addresses in the range 136.206.113/24 (i.e. 136.206.113.1 - 136.206.113.255) See you in Dublin, Rene Wilhelm RIPE NCC

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(no subject)
by Mandy Jonkers 15 May '97

15 May '97

Dear All, We have worked out the following schedule: (including explanation) Wednesday 21 May Thursday 22 May ---------------- --------------- QG15 QG28 QG15 QG28 9:00 +----------+----------+ +----------+----------+-------------+ 10:30 | DBWS |N.S.BOF* | | DNS | |TLD Admin BOF| +----------+----------+ +----------+----------+-------------+ 11:30 +----------+----------+ +----------+----------+-------------+ | DBWS |T.T. BOF* | | IPv6 |DB | | 12:30 +----------+----------+ +----------+----------+-------------+ 14:00 +----------+----------+ +---------------------+ |Mbone BOF*|Netnews | | plenary | 15:30 +----------+----------+ +---------------------+ 16:00 +----------+----------+ +---------------------+ |Routing |Local IR | | plenary | 18:00 +----------+----------+ +---------------------+ Friday 28 May ------------- QG15 9:00 +-----------+ | plenary | +-----------+ 11:30 +-----------+ | plenary | 12:30 +-----------+ 14:00 +-----------+ | plenary | 15:30 +-----------+ 16:00 +-----------+ * N.S. BOF = New Structure RIPE NCC, Paul Ridley * T.T. BOF = Test Traffic Measurements, Henk Uijterwaal * Mbone re-configuration BOF, Wilfried Woeber? Kind regards, Mandy ------- End of Forwarded Message

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Ripe meeting schedule explained
by RIPE NCC Meeting Registration 15 May '97

15 May '97

Dear All, We have worked out the following schedule: (including explanation) Wednesday 21 May Thursday 22 May ---------------- --------------- QG15 QG28 QG15 QG28 9:00 +----------+----------+ +----------+----------+-------------+ 10:30 | DBWS |N.S.BOF* | | DNS | |TLD Admin BOF| +----------+----------+ +----------+----------+-------------+ 11:30 +----------+----------+ +----------+----------+-------------+ | DBWS |T.T. BOF* | | IPv6 |DB | | 12:30 +----------+----------+ +----------+----------+-------------+ 14:00 +----------+----------+ +---------------------+ |Mbone BOF*|Netnews | | plenary | 15:30 +----------+----------+ +---------------------+ 16:00 +----------+----------+ +---------------------+ |Routing |Local IR | | plenary | 18:00 +----------+----------+ +---------------------+ Friday 28 May ------------- QG15 9:00 +-----------+ | plenary | +-----------+ 11:30 +-----------+ | plenary | 12:30 +-----------+ 14:00 +-----------+ | plenary | 15:30 +-----------+ 16:00 +-----------+ * N.S. BOF = New Structure RIPE NCC, Paul Ridley * T.T. BOF = Test Traffic Measurements, Henk Uijterwaal * Mbone re-configuration BOF, Wilfried Woeber? Kind regards, Mandy

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schedule Ripe27 Dublin 21-23 May
by RIPE NCC Meeting Registration 15 May '97

15 May '97

Dear all, After taking into account the input from the wg-chairs, here follows the firm schedule for Ripe27. Although not everybody can be pleased, we hope that this accomodates the majority. Wednesday 21 May Thursday 22 May ---------------- --------------- QG15 QG28 QG15 QG28 QG27 9:00 +----------+----------+ +----------+----------+-------------+ 10:30 | DBWS | N.S BOF* | | DNS | |TLD Admin BOF| +----------+----------+ +----------+----------+-------------+ 11:30 +----------+----------+ +----------+----------+-------------+ | DBWS |T.T. BOF* | | IPv6 |DB | | 12:30 +----------+----------+ +----------+----------+-------------+ 14:00 +----------+----------+ +---------------------+ |Mbone BOF*|Netnews | | plenary | 15:30 +----------+----------+ +---------------------+ 16:00 +----------+----------+ +---------------------+ |Routing |Local IR | | plenary | 18:00 +----------+----------+ +---------------------+ Friday 23 May ------------- QG15 9:00 +-----------+ | plenary | +-----------+ 11:30 +-----------+ | plenary | 12:30 +-----------+ 14:00 +-----------+ | plenary | 15:30 +-----------+ 16:00 +-----------+ ------- End of Forwarded Message

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report from APRICOT & the APNIC Meeting
by Mirjam Kuehne 14 May '97

14 May '97

---- Please accept our appologies if you receive this twice ----- Dear colleagues, As announced at the last RIPE Meeting, Daniel an I travelled to Hong Kong to attend the APRICOT Conference and the APNIC annual meeting. Below you will find our report. If you have any questions or comments, please do not hesiate to ask. We (or David Randy Conrad from the APNIC) will also give a short report at the RIPE Meeting in Dublin. Please also refer to the detailed draft minutes of the APNIC meeting: ftp://ftp.apnic.net/apnic/drafts/jan97-minutes Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne Manager Registration Services RIPE NCC ---- APRICOT 1997 Reort Karrenberg, Kuehne ____________________________________________________ Report from the 2nd APRICOT conference and the APNIC Membership Meeting Hong Kong, January 1997 Daniel Karrenberg Mirjam Kuehne Scope This is a short report from the 1997 APRICOT confer- ence and associated meetings. It is a personal account giving just highlights and summarizing sub- jectively. Regional Registries Coordination Meeting Prior to the conference a regional Intenrnet reg- istries coordination meeting was held. Unfortu- nately IANA could not be represented as planned. InterNIC reported that a new version of the ARIN proposal had been published and has received a posi- tive response from ISPs. The discussion on the NAIPR mailing still has a high volume. The estab- lishment of ARIN is still foreseen in Q2/1997. Slow start allocation policies were discussed as APNIC will propose to implement a policy very simi- lar to the RIPE NCC one. We reported that we have been requested to make a proposal for temporary special rules to promote allocations from class A addresses. InterNIC reported that they are planning in the near future to allocate such space to larger providers which are considered capable of supporting it. The NCC will circulate its proposal to IANA and the other regional IRs for comments at the same time it is sent to the local IR WG for comments/approval. Further a number of procedural issues and specific cases were discussed in order to align the way regional registries operate. The next IANA/RIR coordination meeting is planned in conjunction with the 27th RIPE meeting in May 1997. ____________________________________________________ Page 1 APRICOT 1997 Reort Karrenberg, Kuehne ____________________________________________________ APRICOT Conference This was the 2nd APRICOT conference. Compared to the RIPE meetings the format is certainly very much more like a conference. During the first two days a large number of general tutorials was offered for a charge. Topics ranged from sendmail configuration to configuring firewalls. The presenters were top experts in their respective fields. The conference itself had four tracks: operations, applications, legal/political and business related topics. The formats used were presentations and panel discussions. The emphasis was very much on information dissemination rather than working on recommendations and common activities. There were no scheduled working group meetings. There were intesive hallway discussions. Topics for the panel discussions were somewhat over- lapping. The RIPE NCC participated in panels about Internet address regisrtation and Internet gover- nance. We had the impression that while the region is quite diverse in many aspects, there is a strong will to cooperate on many issues and there is gen- eral acceptance of the APNIC as a regional registry. Many discussions focussed on the domain name pro- posal from the IAHC. Two IAHC members were present. They stated that IAHC will publish a report soon and that they expect to see it implemented very quickly. The imminent danger of alternative DNS hierarchies disrupting DNS operations was given as a motivation for the urgency to move forward. APNIC organises the conference as requested by the APNIC membership. This is a serious amount of work part of which is done by volunteers. Some aspects of the conference are sponsored by vendors and other relevant organisations including ISPs. There also was a small vendor exhibition featuring mainly the sponsors of the meeting. Nevertheless the confer- ence has a serious turnover and associated risk. APNIC expects to loose some money on this confer- ence. This was due The situation in the Asian Pacific region is suffi- ciently different from Europe, that we believe no aspect of APRICOT is directly applicable to RIPE meetings. We could consider offering some tutorials that are very specifically geared towards ISP needs. These could also serve to get people up to speed for working group discussions. However this should be ____________________________________________________ Page 2 APRICOT 1997 Reort Karrenberg, Kuehne ____________________________________________________ introduced slowly and carefully in order to guaran- tee high quality and minimise financial exposure. Annual APNIC Membership Meeting APNIC is run by the membership who elect a five per- son executive council which makes decisions between meetings. The paid staff are referred to as the APNIC secretariat. The meeting we attended was the annual membership meeting. It can be compared to a combination of the RIPE local IR WG meetings and the yearly RIPE NCC Contributors Meeting. Most deci- sions were made by voting rather than establishing consensus. Large members have 4 votes, medium ones 2 and small ones 1 vote. Voting was open as the registry ID had to be noted on the voting slips. First two positions on the executive council had to be filled. Out of eight candidates five of whom were present two new members were elected: Dr. Xing Li from China and Prof. Dr. Srisakdi Charmonman from Thailand. The other sitting members of the execu- tive council are Geoff Huston, Prof. Jun Murai and Dr. Tommi Chen. The APNIC reported about their activities since the last meeting: Registration Services Yoshiko showed interesting statistics about APNICs address and AS number assignments. Also included was an overview of the contributors per country as well as assignment statistics per country. The APNIC has currently 108 con- tributors. The distribution in small, medium, large and enterprise contributors is similar to our region. In addition there are 5 confederations registered with APNIC. The APNIC handles great parts of requests with automatically parsable forms. We willinvesti- gate whether this might also be useful for the NCC. Financial Report Kyoko Day reported about last years expenses and presented the forecast for next year. The 1997 operating expenses are expected to be US$500.000. APNIC currently aims for a reserve ____________________________________________________ Page 3 APRICOT 1997 Reort Karrenberg, Kuehne ____________________________________________________ of around 6 months operating expenses. It is notable that the APNIC only formally exists since April 1996 and has therefore a short history that can be used as basis for their forecasts. One important issue for the contributors was the high level of company tax (>51%) that the APNIC has to pay in Japan. The executive council has asked the APNIC secre- tariat is to investigate a possible relocation to another country in the AP region. A report is expected in March and a decision in this matter will be taken soon thereafter. General Report David Conrad reported on general APNIC issues as staffing situation, equipment and future challenges. The APNIC has currently 3 full time staff (Yoshiko, Kyoko and David), one part-time staff for special projects and one part-time staff to support the business manager Kyoko Day. This is considered understaffed. It is planned to hire additional staff asap. The APNIC provides the following core services to its memebers: - IP address assignments and allocations - reverse delegation of the allocated and assigned addresss space - maintenance of the APNIC database - APRICOT meeting support The APNIC proposed to introduce a new billing cate- gory called confederations in order to improve fair- ness in charging national NICs and similar organisa- tions which are currently charged the same fees as single ISPs. There was a lively discussion about the financial consequences of this move. It was recognised that a way to charge fairly for confeder- ations was needed but financial instability could result. During this meeting a decision could not be reached. The APNIC secretariat will collect sugges- tions and re-issue a proposal to the membership. The membership will then have the option to vote on this electronically if a proper procedure to do this can be found. The meeting decided to introduce non-member fee to ____________________________________________________ Page 4 APRICOT 1997 Reort Karrenberg, Kuehne ____________________________________________________ those organisations who wish to obtain address space directly from the APNIC without being interested in becoming a member. They will be charged per address as well as a yearly maintenance fee for the database entries. The fees are set such that in typical cases they are substantially higher than those of a member registry. The meeting also decided that APNIC should start an activity to advise ISPs in the region which announce unnecessary routing prefixes on how to avoid this. It was noted that this is similar to activities C2 'Routing Registry Data Exchange' and C5 'RR Maintenance' of the NCC and we agreed to support each other in this endeavor. On suggestion of the secretariat the meeting decided to introduce a slow start allocation policy combined with an assignment window which is very similar to the one used by the NCC [ripe-140]. We supported the secretariat by describing our experiences to the meeting. The secretariat stated that membership meeting will be held prior to the conference in the future because meeting preparations were hampered by lack of time due to unexpected amounts of effort needed for the conference. Even during the meeting the winding down of conference activities needed atten- tion form secretariat staff. The APNIC will launch a new Web site which was shown to the meeting. Interesting topics were a "What's new?" page with pointers recently changed pages and documents on the site in reverse chronological order. The APNIC Web site also contains pointers to the other RIRs, the NCC should do the same. Conclusions Visiting the APRICOT and the APNIC Meeting was very useful as we had the possibility to exchange a lot of information and ideas with APNIC staff and Inter- net people from the AP region. This way we got a number of new ideas for the RIPE NCC's internal pro- cedures as well as for our meetings. Most signifi- cantly such direct exchanges help ensure that the regional registries maintain homogeneous policies and procedures. ____________________________________________________ Page 5

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