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PLEASE REPLY (once per person is enough)
by Erik Huizer 10 Nov '92

10 Nov '92

Hi, The organisers of the first European IETF like to get a feel for the number of European participants that will show up. I know that Ripe intents to meet at the IETF, still I like some indication. Could you please reply to ME (not the list) and say wheter YES you will probably attent or NO you will probably not attent the IETF (probably but not yet 100% fixed: Amsterdam second week of july 1993). Erik

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Re: RIPE DNS Hostcount October 1992
by bob＠informatics.rutherford.ac.uk 03 Nov '92

03 Nov '92

Marten, > The UK and DE have been counted by ULCC and DE-NIC, > and the output collected at the NCC. As you will see, this has increased > counts for both countries quite significantly, especially the UK. The increase in UK figures you saw may not be due to the method of collection, but rather a real effect. Our own figures showed a substantial increase this month -- about 4,200 "real" hosts. (Our accounting of "real" hosts is always a bit more conservative than yours -- we identified 40636 this month, rather than the 43301 you saw. This is possibly because we have a better (local) understanding of what constitutes a duplicate?) We still have a considerable number of JIPS sites that have not yet delegated so I guess we'll carry on growing for a while yet... Regards, Bob Day

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RIPE DNS Hostcount October 1992
by Marten Terpstra 02 Nov '92

02 Nov '92

Folks, hostcount time once more. Comments: - This was the first time that some countries were counted not at the NCC, but within the country. The UK and DE have been counted by ULCC and DE-NIC, and the output collected at the NCC. As you will see, this has increased counts for both countries quite significantly, especially the UK. If anyone besides these two is interested to do the hostcount for their country, please send me a message. (One per country please ....) - All went up nicely, except for GR. I have tried GR once extra, but no improvements were made. Total increase just over 22,000. - Total is now over 254,000, which is roughly 22 percent of the global count, taken from the October zone survey done by Mark Lottor of SRI. His count comes to 1,136,000 hosts worldwide. - History is again appended below. - Again all output can be found on ftp.ripe.net:/ripe/hostcount Cheers, -Marten RIPE DNS Hostcount Previous Count : Fri Sep 26 1992 This Count : Sat Oct 31 1992 CY SOA COUNTED DUPL REAL CHANGE ============================================================ al 1 0 0 0 0 at 184 7619 43 7576 + 566 be 21 1671 63 1608 + 91 bg 1 0 0 0 0 by 0 0 0 0 0 ch 99 20987 168 20819 + 1413 cs 17 898 68 830 + 819 de 935 56147 1168 54979 + 2701 dk 75 4678 46 4632 + 267 dz 0 0 0 0 0 ee 7 60 0 60 + 3 es 162 5114 85 5029 + 831 fi 144 18542 164 18378 + 1141 fr 307 21396 362 21034 + 1461 gb 1 2 0 2 0 gr 38 498 137 361 - 173 hr 0 0 0 0 0 hu 9 173 2 171 + 52 ie 18 920 11 909 + 70 is 12 680 7 673 + 123 it 177 6106 183 5923 + 1141 il 41 3383 56 3327 + 228 lt 1 0 0 0 0 lu 5 90 0 90 + 12 lv 1 0 0 0 0 nl 270 22760 396 22364 + 1126 no 332 16743 232 16511 + 1041 pl 60 804 10 794 + 125 pt 53 1627 4 1623 + 264 ro 0 0 0 0 0 se 344 23736 212 23524 + 722 si 1 0 0 0 0 su 127 47 0 47 + 19 tn 2 9 0 9 0 ua 0 0 0 0 0 uk 365 49203 5902 43301 + 8020 va 0 0 0 0 0 yu 2 11 0 11 0 ============================================================ 3812 263904 9319 254585 +22063 History Oct 1990 31724 Nov 1990 33665 Dec 1990 29230 Jan 1991 43832 Feb 1991 - Mar 1991 44506 Apr 1991 46948 May 1991 - Jun 1991 63267 Jul 1991 - Aug 1991 73069 Sep 1991 92834 Oct 1991 104824 Nov 1991 129652 Dec 1991 - Jan 1992 - Feb 1992 161434 Mar 1992 167939 Apr 1992 170050 May 1992 182528 Jun 1992 196758 Jul 1992 213017 Aug 1992 221951 Sep 1992 232522 Oct 1992 254585

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RTR 1 - 2nd Edition
by Jill.Foster＠newcastle.ac.uk 27 Oct '92

27 Oct '92

I have just updated the RARE Technical Report 1. This gives an overview of user support activities and major information services in Europe. (Plus network contact details). The following networks are included: National networks: Austria ACONET Beligum BNAN Denmark DKnet Finland FUNET France EARN-France Germany DFN Greece ARIADNE Hungary HUNGARNET Iceland ISnet Ireland HEANET Italy GARR Luxembourg RESTENA The Netherlands SURFnet Norway UNINETT Portugal RCCN Slovenia ARNES Spain RedIRIS Sweden SUNET Switzerland SWITCH Turkey TUVAKA United Kingdom JANET Regional networks: NORDUnet The Nordic Countries European networks/institutes: CERN Europe EARN Europe To retrieve a copy of this report from Mailbase send the command: send rare-wg3-usis rtr-usis-92 in an email message to: mailbase(a)mailbase.ac.uk OR Anonymous ftp to: mailbase.ac.uk file: /pub/rare-wg3-usis/rtr-usis-92 -- Jill Foster (Information Services and User Support Working Group)

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REMINDER Call for Papers JENC4
by bersee＠rare.nl 27 Oct '92

27 Oct '92

R E M I N D E R Announcement & Call for Papers 4 t h J o i n t E u r o p e a n N e t w o r k i n g C o n f e r e n c e "EUROPEAN RESEARCH NETWORKING IN A GLOBAL CONTEXT" Trondheim, Norway, 10-13 May 1993 Organized by RARE in cooperation with: ACM Sigcomm, EARN, EUnet/EurOpen, IFIP TC6, Internet Architecture Board, Internet Society, NORDUnet, UNINETT __________________________________________________________ CONFERENCE TOPICS Lower Layers Technology; Mail And Messaging; Network Management; Network Applications; Users; Security; Policy, Funding, and Strategies; Status Reports of National Initiatives and European Projects. CALL FOR PAPERS Two-page summaries of proposed papers should arrive at the programme chair (Bernhard Plattner) not later than November 1. CALL FOR DEMONSTRATIONS Requests for demonstrations should be made through the RARE Secretariat, specifying technical requirements before November 1 (later proposals will be taken into account but can not be guaranteed booth space). CALL FOR TUTORIALS This year for the first time tutorials will be held at the end of the conference, on Thursday afternoon and Friday morning. Proposals for half-day or full-day tutorials should arrive at the programme chair before the 1st of November, 1992. The programme committee also invites prospective attendees to send a list of topics on which a Tutorial would be appreciated to the programme chair before November 1, 1992. DEADLINES AND OTHER IMPORTANT DATES November 1, 1992 deadline for two-page summaries of proposed papers November 1, 1992 deadline for proposed tutorials December 15, 1992 deadline for proposed demonstrations End January, 1993 notification of acceptance of papers to speakers April 10, 1992 deadline for submission of full papers and one page up-to-date demonstration descriptions (camera-ready) for the conference hand-out FURTHER INFORMATION Further information: General and Programme Chair: RARE Secretariat Bernhard Plattner Singel 466-468 c/o Singel 466-468 NL-1017 AW AMSTERDAM NL-1017 AW AMSTERDAM tel: +31 20 639 1131 tel: +31 20 639 1131 fax: +31 20 639 3289 fax: +31 20 639 3289 e-mail RFC822 raresec(a)rare.nl plattner(a)rare.nl e-mail X.400 C=nl; ADMD=400net; C=nl; ADMD=400net; PRMD=surf; PRMD=surf; O=rare; S= raresec; O=rare; S= plattner;

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Draft Minutes of the 13th Meeting Available
by Daniel Karrenberg 23 Oct '92

23 Oct '92

The draft minutes of the 13th meeting are available now from the RIPE documents store. FTP access is via ftp.ripe.net. The file names are as usual: ripe/docs/ripe-minutes/ripe-m-13.txt for the ASCII version ripe/docs/ripe-minutes/ripe-m-13.ps for the PostScript version Comments should be sent to Anne.Lord(a)ripe.net. In two weeks time the version for approval at the next meeting will be finalised. Have a nice weekend. Daniel

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Database WG has mailing list
by Daniel Karrenberg 20 Oct '92

20 Oct '92

A new mailing list has been created for discussions of the RIPE database working group. Since there are quite some work items pending regarding the database a good deal of traffic is expected in the next few days. Since we unfortunately forgot to pass around the signup sheet at the last WG meeting I have taken the liberty to initialise the list with names of people who have been interested or have contributed in the past. If you would like to subscribe or unsubscribe from the list, please send mail to the usual address db-wg-request(a)ripe.net The initial list is: Wilfried Woeber <woeber(a)cc.univie.ac.at> # Tony Bates <t.bates(a)noc.ulcc.ac.uk> Stefan Biesbroek <stephan(a)ub4b.buug.be> Antonio Blasco Bonito <bonito(a)cnuce.cnr.it> Erik-Jan Bos <bos(a)surfnet.nl> Daniele Bovio <hi(a)frors12.bitnet> Bob Day <R.Day(a)jnt.ac.uk> Havard Eidnes <Havard.Eidnes(a)runit.sintef.no> Stefan Fassbender <stf(a)nis.easi.net> Elise Gerich <epg(a)merit.edu> Arnold Nipper <nipper(a)ira.uka.de> Willi Porten <porten(a)gmd.de> Annie Renard <Annie.Renard(a)inria.fr> Duncan Rogerson <D.Rogerson(a)noc.ulcc.ac.uk> Andreas Schachtner <afs(a)Germany.EU.net> Don Stikvoort <stikvoort(a)surfnet.nl> Daniele Vanozzi <vannozzi(a)nis.garr.it> Ruediger Volk <rv(a)deins.informatik.uni-dortmund.de> Scott Williamson <scottw(a)nic.ddn.mil> # RIPE NCC <ncc(a)ripe.net>

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RIPE NCC Quarterly Report Issue 2 Available
by Daniel Karrenberg 19 Oct '92

19 Oct '92

The second Quarterly Report of the RIPE NCC is now available. It can be fetched from the RIPE document store as document ripe-73 in both PostScript and plain ASCII. RIPE documents can be found in directory ripe/docs/ripe-docs. The differences with the draft which was distributed at the RIPE meeting are minor. Most notable are additional graphics in Appendix H. As usual the NCC welcomes comments and suggestions.

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How to get a free EMPB connection to your network
by Peter Lothberg 14 Oct '92

14 Oct '92

EMPB are offering their customers a network with guareanteed quality of service (well 200kb/s on a 2m link). Any one that buys a EMPB connection to his workstation, needs to asure that this connection, actually makes the IP arcitecture as a whole fully functional. This means that EMPB has to provide connectivity to all nameservers as an example. If EMPB connects through something that has no quality of service guarantees at all, the quality of the FUNCTIONALTY provided is the sum of the transit networks. So I suggest that all regional/RBS etc networks in the world choices to offer the EMPB providor to connect to them locally, at the expences of EMPB, so that EMPB customers can reach a particular RBS-region through EMPB controled paths. Otherwice it would be really hard for the EMPB providor to live up to any of the guarantees for quality of service, if they relay on such a thing as the unreliable Ebone. For those wo don't follow me, here is a summary; If you want a free EMPB connection, so that EMPB customers can talk to you, just excercice the right of implementing your policy in the RBS, and offer EMPB a free ethernet connector on your central routers. -Peter If you talk to EMPB through the Ebone, you are using your resources to subsidise the EMPB providor.

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RARE UPDATE, Nr.7
by bersee＠rare.nl 12 Oct '92

12 Oct '92

***************** A RARE UPDATE No.7, October 1992 ***************** NEWS FROM THE COA by Josefien Bersee at the RARE Secretariat The 24th meeting of the RARE Council of Administration took place on September 24/25 in Bratislava, Czechoslovakia. The major results of the meeting are summarized below. _________________________________________________________ MEMBERSHIP MATTERS Two new members and two changes in existing membership were accepted in Bratislava. The Turkish national research network TUVAKA and the Croatian CARNet are new Full National Members. Poland and Hungary changed their membership status from Associate to Full National Member. This brings the total number of RARE members to 41. EXECUTION TECHNICAL PROGRAMME GUARANTEED By accepting a 33% membership fee increase the CoA has guaranteed basic support for the execution of the RARE Technical Programme. Execution of a Technical Programme is felt to be an important factor determining RARE's influence on the development of future research networking activities. TECHNICAL STRUCTURE The CoA decided to accept the slightly changed Technical Structure as proposed by the RTC: the establishment of one Multi-Media Working Group instead of the previous two (on Interactive Multimedia and Multimedia Document Transfer), and the establishment of a Working Group on Character Sets. The following RARE Working Groups (followed by the name of its convenor) are now officially established: International Character Sets (WG-CHAR), Borka Jerman-Blazic Multimedia (WG-IMM), John Dyer Information Services and User Support (WG-ISUS), Jill Foster Lower-Layers Technology (WG-LLT), Piet Bovenga Mail & Messaging (WG-MSG), Harald Alvestrand Network Applications Support (WG-NAP), Paul-Andre Pays Network Operations (WG-NOP), Bernhard Stockman Security Technology (WG-SEC), Klaus Truoel RARE welcomes anyone who wishes to join one of the above-mentioned working groups. Joining is easy: send electronic mail to: mailserver(a)rare.nl containing in the body of the message: SUBSCRIBE wgname yourfirstname yourlastname where wgname is the abbreviation for the name of the working group. SIGNING OF 2Mbps CONTRACT RARE accepts to sign and manage the 2Mbps contract with the CEC on behalf of those national networks which will use EC funds in support of their participation in the 2Mbps pilot service. The 2Mbps pilot is part of the European Multi-Protocol Backbone (EMPB) service. OPERATIONAL UNIT The CoA agreed that RARE should act as a legal body on behalf of the Operational Unit under establishment, under the condition that shareholders are accepting the commercial risks. Shareholders should also organize the provision of management of the execution of OU activities. RELATION RARE/RIPE REDEFINED RARE and RIPE will remain independent bodies. The CoA agreed that RARE will continue to rely on RIPE for the coordination of IP activities - and not establish its own IP coordination group - , while RIPE will rely on the RARE Technical Committee and IETF for the setting up of a technical development plan. To enable close cooperation between RIPE and the RTC, RARE has invited RIPE to appoint a representative on the RTC. With regard to the RIPE NCC, the CoA agreed that it should remain under the umbrella of RARE until at least the end of 1993, even if the funds for operation of the RIPE NCC were to be channelled via the Operational Unit. LIAISON WITH ISODE CONSORTIUM RARE will become a member of the ISODE Consortium. This organization has been founded to support further development of ISODE, a package of OSI upper layer software and applications. Many organizations in the research community have used the ISODE as a tool for working with a range of OSI applications. COMBINED JENC5/INET94 The CoA has agreed that the 5th Joint European Networking Conference should be organized in combination with INET 94. The REC is asked to proceed with the investigation of the Prague offer to host the event, and to negotiate with the Internet Society on the basis of that proposal.

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