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Re: RIPE DNS Hostcount July 1993
by pwj＠informatics.rutherford.ac.uk 04 Aug '93

04 Aug '93

Rob: I infer from the various messages that have followed the latest RIPE hostcount that there is some interest in the networking plans of the JANET community. The message below describes one of the things that has been done. There are others in hand and being considered. If you like, I'll be happy to give a short talk at the next RIPE meeting about our plans, and the challenges we are facing. Some of these challenges are unique to our community (or are you running 'yellow book' too? :-), but others are I think general. Anyway, I'd rather give a talk than enter into discussions on the mailing list. Comments welcome, Phil (p.jones(a)jnt.ac.uk) ----- Begin Included Message -----

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RIPE DNS Hostcount July 1993
by Marten Terpstra 04 Aug '93

04 Aug '93

People, below the RIPE DNS hostcount for July 1993. - all countries that have less hosts in this count have been counted once more, but none gave better results. - DE is getting very close to be the first European country to reach 100,000 machines. - in total an increase of almost 21,000 to almost 427,000 - History again appended - output again on ftp.ripe.net:ripe/hostcount, also available in the gopher server on gopher.ripe.net under "RIPE Archive"/"ripe"/"hostcount" Enjoy, -Marten RIPE DNS Hostcount Previous Count : Wed Jun 30 1993 This Count : Sun Jul 31 1993 CY SOA COUNTED DUPL REAL CHANGE ============================================================ al 1 0 0 0 0 at 280 12721 101 12620 + 1441 be 51 4323 87 4236 + 461 bg 1 0 0 0 - 1 by 0 0 0 0 0 ch 155 31195 714 30481 + 1653 cs 102 2804 54 2750 - 184 cy 5 30 0 30 0 cz 84 3260 76 3184 + 450 de 1372 92926 3412 89514 + 3951 dk 105 6601 93 6508 + 529 dz 0 0 0 0 0 ee 15 193 1 192 + 14 eg 1 0 0 0 0 es 246 10133 133 10000 + 976 fi 263 26736 761 25975 + 616 fo 1 0 0 0 0 fr 439 38833 482 38351 - 1516 gb 1 14 0 14 + 7 ge 1 0 0 0 0 gr 87 1316 216 1100 + 97 hr 17 327 0 327 - 96 hu 26 1414 7 1407 + 135 ie 41 1704 37 1667 + 60 is 33 1237 10 1227 + 21 it 349 14377 196 14181 + 1244 il 78 5510 55 5455 + 639 li 2 17 0 17 0 lt 1 0 0 0 0 lu 12 207 1 206 + 28 lv 2 16 2 14 + 6 mt 1 0 0 0 0 nl 376 35662 377 35285 + 2051 no 403 24922 235 24687 + 2466 pl 57 1123 7 1116 - 1965 pt 89 2786 64 2722 + 240 ro 2 14 0 14 0 se 445 32629 280 32349 + 1071 si 10 459 3 456 + 13 sk 21 306 7 299 + 105 su 132 523 29 494 + 192 tn 2 12 1 11 - 3 tr 9 189 1 188 + 12 ua 29 23 4 19 + 16 uk 633 90478 10749 79729 + 7168 va 0 0 0 0 0 yu 2 2 0 2 0 ============================================================ 5982 445022 18195 426827 +21897 History Oct 1990 31724 Nov 1990 33665 Dec 1990 29230 Jan 1991 43832 Feb 1991 - Mar 1991 44506 Apr 1991 46948 May 1991 - Jun 1991 63267 Jul 1991 - Aug 1991 73069 Sep 1991 92834 Oct 1991 104824 Nov 1991 129652 Dec 1991 - Jan 1992 141308 Feb 1992 161434 Mar 1992 167939 Apr 1992 170050 May 1992 182528 Jun 1992 196758 Jul 1992 213017 Aug 1992 221951 Sep 1992 232522 Oct 1992 254585 Nov 1992 271795 Dec 1992 284374 Jan 1993 303828 Feb 1993 322902 Mar 1993 355140 Apr 1993 366164 May 1993 385522 Jun 1993 404930 Jul 1993 426827

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Re: RIPE DNS Hostcount July 1993
by Arnold Nipper 04 Aug '93

04 Aug '93

>Sender: piet(a)mcsun.eu.net > > - DE is getting very close to be the first European country > to reach 100,000 machines. >With 90478 hosts the UK is also pretty close. >Interestingly, both countries once were X.25 >addicts where IP was a curse... :-) > That's not absolutely true! Long time ago there was *ONE* party which did not recommend IP as an open protocol. But as I said, that was before yesterday. > > Piet Arnold

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Re: RIPE DNS Hostcount July 1993
by Kevin Hoadley 04 Aug '93

04 Aug '93

>>Even more interesting is much (almost all in the UK case) still runs on top >>of X.25 infrastructure. Who says X.25 PLP is redundant (don't answer -- >>was a joke from someone who put a lot of the glue in place). As of yesterday, most of the JIPS backbone now runs native IP at 34Mb/s; the first steps towards something I'm sure ! Kevin Hoadley, JIPS NOSC. ----- End Included Message -----

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Re: RIPE DNS Hostcount July 1993
by Dave Morton 04 Aug '93

04 Aug '93

>Even more interesting is much (almost all in the UK case) still runs on top >of X.25 infrastructure. Who says X.25 PLP is redundant (don't answer -- >was a joke from someone who put a lot of the glue in place). > >--Tony. > Tony, I'm sure the community will forgive you for your past sins, implementing the glue, was adequate penance in itself :- Cheers, Dave

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Re: RIPE DNS Hostcount July 1993
by Dave Morton 04 Aug '93

04 Aug '93

>> Even more interesting is much (almost all in the UK case) still runs on top >> of X.25 infrastructure. Who says X.25 PLP is redundant (don't answer -- >> was a joke from someone who put a lot of the glue in place). > >This is even more true for DE. And we probably will for better or worse >likeley keep up with these traditioned way even longer than the UK. Some >of us still have their fingers deep in this glue... > >Toerless Toerless, Glad you said "some of us" ....... Dave

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Re: RIPE DNS Hostcount July 1993
by Dave Morton 04 Aug '93

04 Aug '93

> > Interestingly, both countries once were X.25 > > addicts where IP was a curse... :-) >one the other hand it seems they are pursuing to get rid of the "trouble >enhancement layer" that in less fortunate parts of the continent is still >considered a conditio sine qua non :-( > >Cheers, > Ruediger Gee Ruediger, pray tell us, now where might this less fortunate place be ? No - don't bother - I think I might just know offhand. Interestingly it is now more technically possible and financially sound to use ISDN in the "place" mentioned than X.25 but anyway, I wander. Regards, Dave

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Re: RIPE DNS Hostcount July 1993
by Dave Morton 04 Aug '93

04 Aug '93

>Anyway, we're number 2 - although we do claim to try harder, as they >say. :-) Listening to Janis Joplin again eh ? :- >Best wishes, > > Phil Anyways - no. 2 is better than no. 6 - being imprisoned on an island and having to conform and all that - old tv series - think about it ! :- Cheers, Dave

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Re: RIPE DNS Hostcount July 1993
by pwj＠informatics.rutherford.ac.uk 04 Aug '93

04 Aug '93

> From piet%net.EU.mcsun(a)uk.ac.nsfnet-relay Wed Aug 4 12:41:56 1993 > From: Piet.Beertema(a)net.EU.mcsun > To: Marten Terpstra <Marten.Terpstra(a)net.ripe> > Subject: Re: RIPE DNS Hostcount July 1993 > Cc: cerf(a)us.va.reston.cnri, RIPE Discussion List <ripe-list(a)net.ripe> > Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1993 13:31:51 +0200 > Original-Sender: piet(a)net.EU.mcsun > Original-Sender: piet(a)net.EU.mcsun > Sender: piet%net.EU.mcsun(a)uk.ac.nsfnet-relay > Content-Length: 232 > > - DE is getting very close to be the first European country > to reach 100,000 machines. > With 90478 hosts the UK is also pretty close. > > Piet > Piet: I don't have the latest hostcount in front of me, but I think this is a quote from the wrong column, isn't it? I think the 'real' number is at least 10,000 less than that. Anyway, we're number 2 - although we do claim to try harder, as they say. :-) Best wishes, Phil (p.jones(a)jnt.ac.uk, Voice: +44-235-446618, Fax: +44-235-446251) (post: JNT, RAL, Chilton, Didcot, OXON, OX11 0QX, UK)

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IETF Amsterdam: Report
by Jill.Foster＠newcastle.ac.uk 23 Jul '93

23 Jul '93

IETF - Amsterdam: July 12-16, 1993 ================================== Trip Report: Jill Foster - Newcastle University, UK Chairman: RARE Information Services and User Support Working Group Abstract ======== This was the first time the IETF (Internet Engineering Task Force) had been held ouside of North America. The report deals mainly with the areas of User Support and Networked Information Retrieval, although reports of some of the plenary sessions are also included. This report will be stored on the UK Mailbase Server (from 24.07.93). To retrieve a copy, email to Mailbase(a)mailbase.ac.uk with the following command in the body of the message: send wg-isus ietf.07.93 Alternatively use anonymous ftp to: mailbase.ac.uk file: pub/wg-isus/ietf.07.93 [Also available via gopher] -- Jill Foster

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