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The Cidr Report
by Tony Bates 10 Oct '97

10 Oct '97

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Hostcount for September 1997
by Mirjam Kuehne 06 Oct '97

06 Oct '97

Dear all, Here is the hostcount for September 1997. The table shows an increase since last month of over 160,000 (or 3.3%) to a total of over 5,000,000 (!) hosts in the DNS in Europe and surrounding areas. Over the last Quarter we saw an increase of almost 4000,000 hosts (or 8.0%). FI shows the highest increase for September with more than 50,000 hosts more than in August (when it showed a decrease of more than 17,000 hosts after a significant increase in July). DE shows a decrease of over 15,000 hosts. This is mainly due to a single zone that contains more than 32,000 hosts but has only one nameserver. This nameserver could not be reached this time :( The hostcount can also be found under ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/hostcount. The graphical version of the hostcount can be found at ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/hostcount/RIPE-Hostcount-{Mo,Qu}.eps The translation of the country codes can be found at ftp://ftp.ripe.net/iso3166-countrycodes All this data can also be found at http://www.ripe.net/statistics/hostcount.html If you are intersted in the historic hostcount data, bunyip Information Services is hosting the complete set of data since 1994 under ftp://ftp.bunyip.com/pub/netstats/ripe I would like to thank all people who help me to create the hostcount every month by counting hosts locally: at Gerhard Winkler <winkler(a)cc.univie.ac.at> be DNS-BE Registration Office <tech(a)dns.be> ch Marcel Schneider <hostmaster(a)nic.ch> cy Panagiotis Tzounakis <pj(a)ics.forth.gr> cz Jiri Orsag <Jiri.Orsag(a)eunet.cz> de Peter Koch <pk(a)TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE> dk Robert Martin-Legene <robert(a)dknet.dk> es Jose Sanchez-Seco <jose.sanchez(a)rediris.es> fi Petri Ojala <ojala(a)eunet.fi> fr Annie Renard <Annie.Renard(a)inria.fr> gr Dimitris Zisiadis <zisiadis(a)forthnet.gr> hr Ivan Maric <Ivan.Maric(a)stribor.srce.hr> hu Gabor Kiss <kissg(a)sztaki.hu> ie Mike Norris <mnorris(a)dalkey.hea.ie> il Sason Levi <sason(a)NetVision.net.il> it Antonio_Blasco Bonito <bonito(a)nis.garr.it> no Havard Eidnes <Havard.Eidnes(a)runit.sintef.no> pl Mirek Luc <mirek(a)nask.pl> pt Armando Domingues <fccn(a)dns.pt> ru Andrey Dobrotsvetov <adbr(a)ripn.net> sk Ivan Lescak <Ivan.Lescak(a)Slovakia.EU.net> Lubos Elias <Lubos.Elias(a)uakom.sk> sm Antonio_Blasco Bonito <bonito(a)nis.garr.it> tr Yener Yigit <yener(a)knidos.cc.metu.edu.tr> uk Kevin Hoadley <K.Hoadley(a)nosc.ja.net> Robert Stone <robert(a)nosc.ja.net> If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Kind regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC RIPE DNS Hostcount Previous Count : Mon Sep 1 1997 This Count : Tue Sep 30 1997 CY SOA COUNTED DUPL REAL CHANGE ============================================================ al 6 114 0 114 + 4 am 39 393 22 371 0 at 10254 113368 18923 94445 + 1169 az 11 151 2 149 + 2 ba 9 62 2 60 - 11 be 6580 101443 6708 94735 + 5002 bg 322 6535 334 6201 + 446 by 35 558 40 518 + 48 ch 17591 185091 17769 167322 + 6813 cy 352 3088 58 3030 + 1996 cz 4973 64907 10205 54702 + 1670 de 65224 1074195 139742 934453 -15934 dk 30956 163242 17323 145919 + 2896 dz 2 38 1 37 0 ee 1032 13890 689 13201 + 377 eg 308 2398 74 2324 + 62 es 6283 185379 6724 178655 + 5891 fi 5871 439659 10364 429295 +50357 fo 63 251 11 240 + 2 fr 11707 352963 21017 331946 + 9428 gb 1 0 0 0 - 40 ge 24 397 18 379 - 1 gr 1605 25810 1251 24559 - 1034 hr 910 8296 1154 7142 + 161 hu 2379 48888 4945 43943 - 235 ie 3306 37571 2322 35249 + 1547 il 3747 80081 6679 73402 + 8647 is 682 15861 431 15430 + 764 it 19289 302045 42039 260006 + 1396 li 224 909 200 709 + 23 lt 443 3451 208 3243 + 304 lu 739 5357 870 4487 + 380 lv 392 6964 838 6126 + 211 ma 68 1034 111 923 + 79 md 23 242 36 206 + 22 mk 35 446 23 423 + 5 mt 121 990 128 862 + 158 nl 21038 391954 26717 365237 +12268 no 11555 233061 11299 221762 + 5395 pl 5898 88864 8431 80433 + 2202 pt 4264 40299 2179 38120 + 2867 ro 785 12597 723 11874 + 3659 ru 6394 102962 11520 91442 +11663 se 20231 345999 17711 328288 +27008 si 1462 20564 2352 18212 + 473 sk 2027 14097 2631 11466 + 304 sm 22 1297 550 747 + 7 su 872 39881 1032 38849 - 397 tn 5 61 13 48 + 3 tr 3266 25324 2848 22476 - 5123 ua 584 14554 3359 11195 - 480 uk 66006 1093569 149372 944197 +20777 va 2 10 0 10 0 yu 620 3505 166 3339 - 66 ============================================================ 340637 5674665 552164 5122501 +163165

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The Cidr Report
by Tony Bates 03 Oct '97

03 Oct '97

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New Document available: RIPE-167
by RIPE NCC Document Annoucement Service 03 Oct '97

03 Oct '97

New/Revised RIPE Document Announcement -------------------------------------- A revised/new document is available from the RIPE document store. Ref: ripe-167 Title: A Regional Internet Registry for the CIS Author: R. Blokzijl, D.Karrenberg, A. Platonov Date: 02 October 1997 Format: PS=47638 TXT=2153 Obsoletes: Obsoleted by: Updates: Updated by: See also: Short content description ------------------------- This memorandum is intended to focus discussion about the establishment of a Regional Internet Registry serving the CIS and surrounding areas. Public comments are invited. The ultimate aim of this process is to achieve rough consensus about the issue within the region concerned. This memo represents the views of the individual authors only. It has not been endorsed by any organisation. Accessing the RIPE document store --------------------------------- The RIPE document store is available via anonymous FTP to ftp.ripe.net, in the directory ripe/docs. The URLs for the new documents on the FTP-server are: ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-167.ps PostScript version ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-167.txt plain text version You can also access the RIPE documents in HTML format via WWW. RIPE-167 is not available from the WWW at this moment, but will be soon, at the following URL: http://www.ripe.net/docs/ripe-167.html Documents can also be retrieved from the RIPE document store using a mail server program. For more information on how to use the program, send email to <mail-server(a)ripe.net> with "send HELP" in the body text.

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Re: New Document available: RIPE-167
by Dmitri Bourkov 03 Oct '97

03 Oct '97

-----Original Message----- From: Albertas Ramanauskas <albertas(a)taide.lt> To: RIPE NCC Document Annoucement Service <ncc(a)ripe.net> Cc: ripe-list(a)ripe.net <ripe-list(a)ripe.net> Date: 3 �� 1997 �. 11:18 Subject: Re: New Document available: RIPE-167 > >Dear authors, > >before starting the live discussion about this document I would appreciate >to get explanation regarding geografical region which be covered by this >document (and by Registry repectively). In particular: > >1. >> Title: A Regional Internet Registry for the CIS > *** >2. >> Short content description >> ------------------------- >> >> This memorandum is intended to focus discussion >> about the establishment of a Regional Internet >> Registry serving the CIS and surrounding areas. > *************************** >3. >excerpt from RIPE-167: > Background > > Since the start of the RIPE NCC as a regional Inter- > net registry in April 1991 Russia and the other > countries of the CIS (former USSR) have been served I think, that you shouldn't worry - CIS don't include Baltic states. I agree with you - it's not the same and should be corrected - as "(part of former USSR)" or simply excluded. > **************** > by the RIPE NCC. > >To my knowledge these 3 statements are totaly not the same. Even more, CIS >never had meaning adequate to USSR. > >Thanks and best regards, > >//Albertas >==================================================== >Albertas Ramanauskas ph. +370 2 72 12 89 >Manager, Taide NOC fax. +370 2 72 76 52 >Liepyno 7, Vilnius mob. +370 99 3 56 01 >Lithuania albertas(a)taide.lt > http://www.taide.net >==================================================== > >P.S. >Excerpt from RIPE-167: > If has been suggested more than once that the coun- > tries of the CIS in fact form a separate region from > Europe that needed special regional support. > >IMHO this doesn't sound very gentle. > > Regards, Dmitri Bourkov Head of Service Development Comstar

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RIPE NCC, Amsterdam - Vacancies
by RIPE NCC Staff 01 Oct '97

01 Oct '97

RIPE NCC Employment Opportunities We are currently soliciting applications for the following positions: Hostmasters The general duties of NCC hostmasters include: - handle all address space related requests - help maintain the databases the RIPE NCC keeps - propose new activities, where needed - report to the Registration Services manager Network Engineers The duties of the network engineer are to: - participate in the maintenance and development of the NCC computing environment - provide support and training to users - maintain and extend software tools currently in use by NCC - staff and customers - identify areas in which automation will reduce work and/or errors - develop and document new software tools Purchasing Officer The duties of the purchasing officer are to: - Negotiation with suppliers and purchasing with special emphasis given to the purchasing of computer, telecommunication, and other technical equipment - Cultivation of and maintenance of supplier relations - Support to engineering staff in warranty and support procedures with suppliers - Maintenance of inventory tracking and stock control system - Pro-active reporting to management of market developments Office Manager The duties of the office manager are to: - Supervision of general administrative activities - Responsible for maintenance and running of one, soon to be two, office locations in Amsterdam. - Purchasing responsibility for administrative supplies within laid down budgets - Maintenance of all organisational supplier contracts - Maintenance and updating of all insurances for the organisation - Assist and possibly take on supervisional role in the organising of conferences - Management team assistance - Health and safety at work supervision How to Apply Please apply via electronic mail to <openings(a)ripe.net>. Please note that we do not feel obliged to read messages encoded in proprietary formats and very much prefer nicely formatted plain ASCII messages. So if you create your application using a proprietary word processor it is advisable to send an ASCII version and possibly a PostScript version for us to print. We do of course accept MIME encoded messages with alternative body parts. For more information about these vacancies and the RIPE NCC, please see: http://www.ripe.net/ Bredo Oeveraas RIPE NCC

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The Cidr Report
by Tony Bates 26 Sep '97

26 Sep '97

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RIPE NCC in Danger
by Daniel Karrenberg 24 Sep '97

24 Sep '97

Dear colleagues, more than a week ago we have published the RIPE NCC Activity Plan and Charging Scheme. We have also asked for nominations of persons to serve on the RIPE NCC Association's Executive Board. Up to now there has been very little feedback to us and no public discussion whatsoever. A total of 1 (one) person has been nominated for the Executive Board. Only 13 of currently 796 contributors have so far registered for the contributors committee meeting; that is less than 2% of the contributors. I tend to interpret this data optimistically and conclude that you all are basically happy with what the NCC is doing and how it is done. Thus you see no point to make the time it takes to take part in the governance of the RIPE NCC. If this interpretation is true the vote of confidence is flattering. However it would be very nice to hear it explicitly rather than implicitly. This would make the NCC stand stronger and make the concept of industry self-regulation all the more stronger. Given the low number of nominations, there is a real danger now that we will not be able to elect a strong and competent executive board. It has become very likely that the executive board will be elected in an ad-hoc fashion at a meeting of a very few contributors and that there is no public discussion prior to that election. This bears the danger of electing persons who do not really have the necessary time and/or expertise available to them. This will make the NCC weaker. NCC management needs the executive board as a strong partner in developing the NCC. I am personally quite concerned that the lack of interest in the governance of the NCC may lead to difficulties in the long run. Minorities and/or special interests might gain disproportionate influence. The NCC itself may take up momentum in directions the majority of the contributors do not want. Once this has happened it is can be very difficult to correct. The amount of effort needed to keep something on track is far less than to put it back on track after it has derailed. I urge all of you to take more of an active interest in these matters and to nominate proficient people to serve on the executive board. We would also appreciate feedback and discussion about the documents published, in particular the 1998 Activity Plan and Charging Scheme. More information can be found at http://www.ripe.net/meetings/contrib/ which contains meeting details and pointers to the relevant documents and at ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/archives/ncc-co/current which contains an archive of the relevant e-mail messages in case you have missed them. Thank you very much for your consideration. Daniel Karrenberg RIPE Community Member RIPE NCC Manager

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Re: Plenary minutes RIPE27
by Steven Bakker 23 Sep '97

23 Sep '97

==> On Fri, 19 Sep 1997, ==> "RNMR" == RIPE NCC Meeting Registration wrote: RNMR> Please accept my apologies for sending these out so late. Please accept my apologies for replying so late :-) Couple of comments: RNMR> 9. Technical Reports RNMR> - TEN-34 (Steven Bakker) RNMR> Impromptu presentation by Steven Bakker. I believe that's putting it friendly :-) RNMR> A map of the current TEN-34 network was shown. RNMR> Many countries now connected, network is operational and works. RNMR> see http://www.dante.org/ for more information That should be: http://www.dante.org.uk/ten-34 or http://www.dante.net/ten-34 RNMR> plans to start a new project done by smaller subset of RNMR> National Research Networks (NRN's) RNMR> Questions: RNMR> Peter Galvaby: what are the peering policies? RNMR> Steven Bakker: basically no policies, no real peering. RNMR> Must be careful to coordinate with European Commission on RNMR> peering agreements. RNMR> European Commission has restrictions on usage of network. RNMR> AT&T Unisource gives them transit as part of IP service they offer. RNMR> BT also gives them transit. Many of networks themselves have RNMR> bi-lateralarrangements with other networks. In discussion RNMR> too peer with EBONE. Latest news on that is that EBONE withdrew from the discussions. They are no longer interested in direct peerings with TEN-34, since they get the routes through their AT&T-Unisource peerings. RNMR> This will replace the European network RNMR> 2 remaining "customers" in Czech Republic and Hungary. RNMR> How many overhead from ATM? RNMR> Steven Bakker: about 17% RNMR> Marten Terpstra: Will the network actually reach 34Mbps in all countries RNMR> before the project will finish (2 year project) RNMR> Mike Norris: they reached "10" :-) Depends on whether you count access speed or backbone speed. Most of the backbone is >20M. Access speeds vary, but the majority is >20M. Given the cost of international high-speed circuits (see below) and the fact that the current bandwidth is not exhausted yet, upgrading for the sake of upgrading is not very wise. RNMR> Steven explained main problem is to do with prices/availability of RNMR> 34Mbps RNMR> in each country. In some cases this doesn't make sense since ACONEt is RNMR> hooked up to DFN who have to share this with other networks... I'd like to qualify that statement: the problem is not with price/ availability of _national_ circuits, but _international_ circuits out of certain (many) countries. Also, there is a cost distribution model within TEN-34, so the cost of _backbone_ (i.e. shared) lines is shared amongst all the participants. I though I did mention this, but given the short preparation time I had it may not have been a very clear story. RNMR> Rob Blokzijl: Too little, too late. Took 2 year organisation to get a RNMR> network going for a year..what about a follow-up? Organising too late. RNMR> commercial business is moving ahead with the development of bandwith RNMR> in Europe before R&D organisations are.. Rob says there are RNMR> plans for 622Mbps to come into AMS-IX My reply to that was that there is currently no pan-European high speed network on the scale of TEN-34. Sure, there are high speed islands all over Europe, many NRNs have a high speed national infrastructure. The problem is getting a *pan-European* high-speed network. In that respect, I believe TEN-34 is a first. Cheers, Steven

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The Cidr Report
by Tony Bates 19 Sep '97

19 Sep '97

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