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reminder: RIPE22 announcement
by RIPE NCC Staff 04 Oct '95

04 Oct '95

Dear RIPE interested people and local registry contacts, Here goes the reminder of the RIPE meeting that will be held next week, Wed 11 Oct - Fri 13 Oct. If you are interested, you are still welcome to join. The agenda is not known yet, but the global structure of the meeting will be as the previous ones: Working group meetings at Wednesday afternoon/Thursday morning and a plenary on Thursday afternoon/Friday morning. Also, the fact that we have heard nothing from our beloved EOF chairperson is a strong indication that there will be an EOF meeting Wednesday at 09:00 :-) Any other information on the RIPE meeting can be found at ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/Next-meeting. IF it is not there, then <ncc(a)ripe.net> will be glad to help you out. We hope to see you in Amsterdam. Roderik Muit RIPE NCC ----- R I P E meeting announcement ============================ (This announcement can also be viewed using "finger meeting(a)ncc.ripe.net") This is to announce that the 22nd RIPE meeting will take place: Dates: 11th October, 1995 begin: 14:00* 12th October, 1995 13th October, 1995 end: 16:00* * these times may change. Also, it is likely that there will be an EOF meeting at 11th October, 09:00. Venue: CWI Kruislaan 413 1098 SJ Amsterdam The Netherlands Host: NIKHEF Registration: Please use the registration form (which will follow in a separate mail) to give notice of your coming as soon as possible. General Information: -------------------- Currency: 1 UK pound = Hfl 2.5 1 ECU = Hfl 2.1 1 US$ = Hfl 1.6 Appended to this announcement: ------------------------------ <> directions to the meeting place Documents to follow (separate mail messages): --------------------------------------------- <> details of hotels in Amsterdam close to meeting venue <> registration form for attendance at the meeting ================================================================== CWI - The RIPE meeting venue: How do I get there? ------------------------------------------------------------------ To ease any possible confusion, two postscript maps can be found in the RIPE document store. One shows the bus and tram stops around the meeting site and the other is a more general map of the area. Both maps are available by ftp: ftp.ripe.net:ripe/Next-Meeting/area-map.ps ftp.ripe.net:ripe/Next-Meeting/area-map.ps.Z ftp.ripe.net:ripe/Next-Meeting/local-transport-map.ps ftp.ripe.net:ripe/Next-Meeting/local-transport-map.ps.Z *PLEASE NOTE: The number 69 and 169 now end at Amstel station rather than Muiderpoort station. The number 15 now connects the Amstel station with Muiderpoort station. a) Recommended public transport route from Amsterdam Schipol airport: <> Take the train from the airport railway station to the Central Railway station (Amsterdam CS). Then from Amsterdam Central Station : <> Take tram number 9 till the stop at the intersection of Middenweg and Kruislaan (15 min ride). The stop is just before the intersection. <> Walk down the Kruislaan in the direction of the railway bridge. Cross under the bridge and continue. Take the 2nd entrance left and follow the signs to the meeting (15 min walk all together). Instead of walking down Kruislaan you can take the shuttlebus for 2 stops. Turn into Kruislaan and the bustop is a little way down on the right hand side of the road. or from Central Station you can: <> Take bus 22 in the direction 'Indische Buurt' to the stop at the 'Muiderpoort Station' and take shuttlebus 66 which stops outside CWI. b) Alternatively from Amsterdam Schipol: <> Take the train from the airport railway station to the RAI station in Amsterdam. (These are the 'stop trains' to Lelystad, Utrecht or Amersfoort.) NOTE: Amsterdam Central Station (CS) is on another line. Then from the RAI station: <> From the RAI station take the city bus number 69 or CN bus number 169 in the direction `Amstel Station'. From the Amstel Railway Station <> From the Amstel station take the city bus number 15 the direction `Muiderpoort Station' to the stop on the corner of Kruislaan and Linnaeusparkweg (15 min ride, ask the driver where to get off) or proceed to 'Muiderpoort Station' and take shuttlebus 66. You can also take the shuttlebus 66 from the Kruislaan and Linnaeusparkweg intersection as described above. d) Taxi from the airport <> Takes 15 mins and will cost approximately Hfl. 60.00 e) Connections away <> Tram 6, 10 to Leidseplein (now with conductor on tram) Tram 9, 14 to Rembrandtplein and Dam Square (9 goes to Central Station) ==================================================================== Public Transport - how much does it cost and where can I get tickets? -------------------------------------------------------------------- Tickets of 15 strips (`Strippenkaart' costing Hfl. 10.75) can be bought in Post Offices, railway stations and cigarette shops. Tickets of 2 and 3 strips can be bought on the bus or the tram but they are much more expensive. You have to validate the ticket yourself in the metro stations and in the trams (except on lines 4, 6, 7, 10, 12 and 13). In the buses the driver will validate the ticket. Amsterdam is divided into zones: the old city is in zone `Centrum' whereas CWI is in zone `Oost'. You need to count how many zones you will be travelling through (from the centre - CWI is 2 zones) and count up that number of strips on your ticket + 1 extra. So in the above example you will need to stamp the 3rd strip. In case of overflow you stamp the last strip of the first ticket and start counting the remaining strips on the next ticket. Confused? Ask any member of the local organizing committee. Warning: BEWARE of pickpockets in crowded places. --------------------------

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RIPE22: Announcement dinner & registration form
by RIPE NCC Staff 29 Sep '95

29 Sep '95

* * ANNOUNCEMENT * * ANNOUNCEMENT * * ANNOUNCEMENT * * ANNOUNCEMENT * * 22th RIPE Meeting Dinner Thursday, October 12th, 1995 Amsterdam Venue: Puri Mas Lange Leidsedwarsstraat 37-41 (1st floor) Amsterdam Time: 19:30 Last date for reservations: Friday 6th October 1995 The RIPE Evening Dinner will be held in 'Puri Mas'. The restaurant serves Indonesian food and is located in the center of Amsterdam close to the 'Leidseplein'. If you want to attend this dinner, please would you complete the form below and we will make the reservation for you. Please note that it will NOT be possible to attend the dinner without first making a reservation. It is best to make your reservation as early as possible since the restaurant has a limited number of places If you would like to bring a guest with you, they are very welcome, but please complete a separate form for them. See you at the dinner, David Kessens RIPE NCC PS. Forms can be obtained from : ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/Next-Meeting/dinner.announce OR by using : finger dinner(a)ncc.ripe.net OR by using the form provided at the end of this mail. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The menu for the dinner is as follows: -**- Aperitif Drink -**- Krupuk Soto Ayam (chicken-curry soup) -**- Indonesian ricetable: Sate Ayam (2 Brochettes grilled chicken) Daging Rendang (Spiced stewed beef (very spicy)) Gulai Kambing (Lamb in Gulai sauce) Kari Ayam (Chicken in curry sauce) Telore Bumbu Bali (Egg in a spiced Balinese sauce) Gado Gado (Various kinds of vegetables with a peanut sauce) Sambel Goreng Kentang (Small fried marinated potatoes) Sambel Goreng Boncis (Haricots in a spiced sauce) Sayur Harian (Vegetable of the day) Acar Kuning (Fresh mixed salad) Serundeng (Fried coconutpowder) Nasi Putih (White rice) Nasi Goreng (Fried rice) -**- Fresh tropical fruits with mango ice-cream -**- Coffee/Tea -**- *Cost of the dinner will be DFL 65,- *Please note that the price of the dinner includes 4 drinks/person. Please reply to <dinner(a)ripe.net> if you would like to have a place reserved for you at the dinner. Unfortunately you will not be able to attend without prior registration, so please let us know asap. - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - -- - - - - - - -- - - - - - -- 22th RIPE Meeting, Amsterdam Evening Dinner 12th October, 1995 For reservations please fill in the following form. Don't delete the special keywords starting with % sign and type your answers between the square brackets. Multiple lines are allowed. %START 1) Your name %NAME [ ] 2) Your e-mail address %EMAIL [ ] 3) Please indicate if you are a vegetarian or have special dietary needs. You can use more lines as long as the description starts and ends with a bracket. (I am a vegetarian so don't worry you lonely vegetarians out there ;-)) %SPECIAL_DIET_DESCRIPTION [ ] %END

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RIPE22: Outstanding action items
by RIPE NCC Staff 28 Sep '95

28 Sep '95

Dear RIPErs, Below you will find an overview of the action items that were outstanding at the end of the 21st RIPE meeting. If you are one of the people that has action items outstanding, then please check if you have already done them. Kind regards, Roderik. ---- Action 19.12 on Marten Terpstra (to be taken over by NCC) To write up the proposed "stored"/"processed" attribute. Action 20.2 on Rob Blokzijl To bring up the CERT issue during the next TERENA Con- tributors Committee meeting Action 20.5 on Daniel Karrenberg To draft outline "applications document" to support the proposed plan on how to deal with address space requests from VSE's Action 20.10 on Havard Eidnes To write up a proposal with input from the Local-IR WG and the EOF (European Operators Forum) Action 20.14 on Milan Sterba To update the Connectivity Document Store home page Action 20.13 on Milan Sterba To periodically send out a call to RIPE NCC contributors to publish in the Connectivity Document Store Action 20.15 on Milan Sterba To produce a metrics sheet for the Connectivity Document Store Action 20.22 on Francis Dupont To send a pointer to PIM for BSD 4.4 as soon as it is available Action 20.24 on Daniele Bovio To set up the matrix to keep track of the RIPE meeting actions Action 21.1 on Daniel Karrenberg To specify the exact format of NCC#new-request-number and send it to the local IR mailing list. Action 21.2 on Daniel Karrenberg To put billing information in the database. Action 21.3 on Daniel Karrenberg, Mike Norris To draft a recommendation on charging by local IRs until September Action 21.4 on Mirjam Kuehne, Anne Lord To incorporate strong recommendation regarding reverse DNS in training materials. Action 21.5 on Leonid Yegoshin To investigate reported DNS failure problems Action 21.6 on David Kessens, Wilfried Woeber To investigate the deployment of PGP for the RIPE Database and to draft a proposal. Action 21.7 on Erik-Jan Bos To make the new Mbone-FAQ available (with pointer to the new Mbone map) Action 21.8 on Erik-Jan Bos, Peter Lothberg To generate a requirement wishlist wrt. multicast rout- ing features and send it to the IESG. Action 21.9 on Erik-Jan Bos (Wilfried Woeber) To update the proposal "A Multicast Router in the Rout- ing Registry" Action 21.10 on Erik-Jan Bos To get in contact with Victor Reijs for a tutorial on "IGMP over ATM" and the Terena/ATM-TF Action 21.11 on Lars-Johan Liman, Geert Jan De Groot, Erik-Jan Bos To redesign Mbone structure for the Stockholm IETF _____________________________________________________________ ripe-m-21.txt Page 39

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CEE Internet prices
by MILAN_STERBA＠HP-Czechia-om1.om.hp.com 20 Sep '95

20 Sep '95

Item Subject: cc:Mail Text Dear colleagues, I am preparing an overview of Internet demography in Eastern and central Europe and other new countries in Europe as RIPE understands it for the next RIPE meeting and I would need your help. Please could those of you who provide IP services in CEE answer the following questions : 1. price of an e-mail subscription (per month, average) 2. price of a dial-up IP connection (per month, average) 3. price of a low speed (9.6) permanent IP connection (per month) 4. price of a 64 Kbit digital line from you to Amsterdam (per month) Please give me prices in dollars, no need to be exact. Your answers will never be directly published, nor will the source of the information be disclosed. They will only serve for comparisons in my study. Thank you for your help Best regards Milan Sterba (RIPE Connectivity WG chair)

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RIPE Agenda
by k13＠nikhef.nl 19 Sep '95

19 Sep '95

Dear RIPErs, it is agenda time again. Your input for agenda items, either for the plenary, or for the WG sessions, is welcome. Rob

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Re: Problem with root servers.
by e07＠nikhef.nl 13 Sep '95

13 Sep '95

[ Daniel.Karrenberg(a)ripe.net ] > > > ftp://ftp.nikhef.nl/pub/network/host.tar.Z) > > Now why would Eric recommend that ? > ;-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) <pedantic> Because I believe that the use of good software will improve the quality of the Internet. </pedantic> By the way, in the same directory you will find the latest versions of the ``ping'' and ``traceroute'' utilities, which have recently undergone major improvements in terms of functionality, robustness, portability, and readability. All changes are documented in their respective RELEASE_NOTES. Comments and requests for enhancements are welcome. -- Eric Wassenaar

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Re: Problem with root servers.
by e07＠nikhef.nl 13 Sep '95

13 Sep '95

[Mireille Yamajako <yamajako(a)EUnet.fr>] > > Does someone know when the problem with the root servers will be fixed? > ... > compuserve.com internet address = 198.4.8.13 > compuserve.com internet address = 198.4.8.14 > compuserve.com internet address = 198.4.8.15 > compuserve.com(root) ??? unknown type 0 ??? > (root) ??? unknown type 372 ??? > (name truncated?) > *** ARL-NAME-SVC-1.COMPUSERVE.COM can't find compuserve.com: Unspecified error What you are seeing here is UDP packet truncation, and has nothing to do with the root servers. There are too many A records to fit in one udp packet. Apparently you are using a DNS query tool which cannot handle this properly. For a more robust tool, I recommend contrib/host from the BIND distribution (for the latest version fetch ftp://ftp.nikhef.nl/pub/network/host.tar.Z) -- Eric Wassenaar

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Re: DNS Problem
by Hans van Staveren 13 Sep '95

13 Sep '95

We are seeing the same problem with E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET's address. Even worse, I have the suspicion that bad DNS behaviour here(very frequent broadcasting of DNS requests) are caused by this. This is a bind problem too of course. We run the "patched" Solaris 2.4 bind. One of the affected machines run's the 2.3 bind. Same problem. Anyone else seeing broadcasted DNS requests when they have this bad data? Hans van Staveren

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Re: DNS Problem
by Peter.Houlder＠elmail.co.uk 11 Sep '95

11 Sep '95

Dear Willi, I am no longer at EUnet GB, but I have cc'ed this reply to support to get the problem investigated. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: DNS Problem Author: Peter.Houlder(a)britain.eu.net at Internet Date: 11/09/95 11:39 Dear all, there seems to be a DNS problem regarding the root name servers. We (that means the ch top-level DNS server) has picked up several times now a false A record for E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. The address picked up is binary zero. A restart only helps for a short time. Other top-level DNS servers contain the false entry as well. Regards, Willi Huber SWITCH scsnms WH[56]> dig . ns ; <<>> DiG 2.0 <<>> . ns ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6 ;; flags: qr rd ra; Ques: 1, Ans: 9, Auth: 9, Addit: 12 ;; QUESTIONS: ;; ., type = NS, class = IN ;; ANSWERS: . 517541 NS E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 517541 NS I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 517541 NS F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 517541 NS G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 517541 NS A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 517541 NS H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 517541 NS B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 517541 NS C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 517541 NS D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. ;; AUTHORITY RECORDS: . 517541 NS E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 517541 NS I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 517541 NS F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 517541 NS G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 517541 NS A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 517541 NS H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 517541 NS B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 517541 NS C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. . 517541 NS D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. ;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS: E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 516170 A 192.203.230.10 E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 209885 A I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 517979 A 192.36.148.17 F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 515737 A 39.13.229.241 F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 162707 A 192.5.5.241 G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 515737 A 192.112.36.4 G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 81336 A 192.192.4.56 A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 516170 A 198.41.0.4 H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 516170 A 128.63.2.53 B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 516170 A 128.9.0.107 C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 515737 A 192.33.4.12 D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 557160 A 128.8.10.90 ;; FROM: scsnms to SERVER: default -- 127.0.0.1 ;; WHEN: Mon Sep 11 11:31:53 1995 ;; MSG SIZE sent: 17 rcvd: 473

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Problem with root servers.
by Mireille Yamajako 11 Sep '95

11 Sep '95

Does someone know when the problem with the root servers will be fixed? Thank you in advance for keeping us posted. Regards, Mireille.yamajako(a)EUnet.fr Server: ARL-NAME-SVC-1.COMPUSERVE.COM Address: 149.174.211.5 compuserve.com nameserver = arl-name-svc-1.compuserve.com compuserve.com nameserver = dub-name-svc-1.compuserve.com compuserve.com nameserver = arl-img-1.compuserve.com compuserve.com nameserver = dub-img-1.compuserve.com compuserve.com origin = arl-name-svc-1.compuserve.com mail addr = sysadm.csi.compuserve.com serial = 69 refresh = 10800 (3 hours) retry = 3600 (1 hour) expire = 604800 (7 days) minimum ttl = 86400 (1 day) compuserve.com internet address = 198.4.6.16 compuserve.com internet address = 198.4.6.17 compuserve.com internet address = 198.4.6.18 compuserve.com internet address = 198.4.6.19 compuserve.com internet address = 198.4.6.20 compuserve.com internet address = 198.4.8.1 compuserve.com internet address = 198.4.8.2 compuserve.com internet address = 198.4.8.3 compuserve.com internet address = 198.4.8.4 compuserve.com internet address = 198.4.8.5 compuserve.com internet address = 198.4.8.6 compuserve.com internet address = 198.4.8.7 compuserve.com internet address = 198.4.8.8 compuserve.com internet address = 198.4.8.9 compuserve.com internet address = 198.4.8.10 compuserve.com internet address = 198.4.8.11 compuserve.com internet address = 198.4.8.12 compuserve.com internet address = 198.4.8.13 compuserve.com internet address = 198.4.8.14 compuserve.com internet address = 198.4.8.15 compuserve.com(root) ??? unknown type 0 ??? (root) ??? unknown type 372 ??? (name truncated?) *** ARL-NAME-SVC-1.COMPUSERVE.COM can't find compuserve.com: Unspecified error

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